Re: Re: [SLE] I'm going to have to return SuSE tonight
----- Original Message ----- From: Sid Boyce To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Sent: Fri, 21 May 2004 01:01:36 +0100 Subject: Re: [SLE] I'm going to have to return SuSE tonight me@prestoncrawford.com wrote:
I don't know why I'm having this problem, but I know I didn't have it with Fedora. Basically I installed a couple days ago. Upon reboot one time I got an error stating something to the effect that libc.so.6 was unable to receive messages of type LHS or something like that. I added a second hard drive (to separate data from the OS) in case this happened again and I reinstalled. Well, it happened again this morning, just a couple days later. No idea why. But when it happens I can't recover the system. I can't update the system. All I can do is reinstall. Anything that uses Glibc (pretty much everything) quits functioning and gives this error.
Anyone else seen this? I can't imagine that this would be a hardware problem. I did a memory test the first time and all the memory checked out. I'm running on a new hard drive now (with the old one being a data drive like I said earlier). So I can't imagine that would be the problem. But for whatever reason the files for libc get hosed so the OS just quits working.
Preston
Sounds like a data corruption problem. I've only seen this type of problem when I used kernel.org 2.6.x-mm kernels with the make-4k-stacks-permanent.patch installed and using the nvidia video driver, but your situation suggests a regulation install with a SuSE kernel. Some hardware details would be of interest, the filesystem type you are using, Fedora uses ext3, I don't know if you stuck with that, if so I would suggest you try reiserfs instead. I normally use a boot CD (knoppix or timos rescuecd) to run reiserfsck (when I did that, it confirmed that my reiserfs was trashed). It may be possible with the SuSE boot CD/DVD to do a filesystem check. Regards Sid. -------------------------------------------------------- Sorry for the bad formatting. My web email program. Anyway, I've tried all the above rescue options, as I mentioned. I tried doing an update, an actual rescue where I ran a filesystem check and everything came out okay. What didn't come out okay was this libc problem. I also thought about the possibility that it was a bad filesystem driver or a bad hard drive. That was the reason for the hard drive purchase. But obviously I've tried that and I've also tried different filesystems. My Fedora install was running reiserfs, actually. Because I've always preferred that filesystem (it's hidden in Fedora's install, but if you type "linux reiserfs" at the boot for the install disk you can install onto reiser). So I went out of my way to run Fedora on reiserfs and it ran fine. Did the same with SuSE and it had this problem. Next time around (thinking it might be a problem with the reiserfs implementation) I tried ext3. Same result last night. So no good there. That didn't really help any. So now I'm completely lost. A computer that functioned perfectly fine now goes completely haywire every couple days no matter what hard drive or filesystem I use. I really have no choice but to consider that the problem lies with the OS itself. I respect the fact that others are having no problems, but I'm having plent. And I've run everything from SuSE 8.0 to SuSE 8.2 to FreeBSD to Mandrake to Fedora on this machine without any problems. And the Fedora install was a 6 month install that I yanked less than a week ago in exchange for SuSE. So that's really the only thing that's changed unless this is somehow indicative of a motherboard going bad or an IDE chain gone bad (I've already checked the RAM). Otherwise, I have to believe it's something with the OS. And it always works at the start. It goes bad after a few updates online. Preston
Hi, On Friday 21 May 2004 03:33, me@prestoncrawford.com wrote:
So now I'm completely lost. A computer that functioned perfectly fine now goes completely haywire every couple days no matter what hard drive or filesystem I use. I really have no choice but to consider that the problem lies with the OS itself. I respect the fact that others are having no problems, but I'm having plent. And I've run everything from SuSE 8.0 to SuSE 8.2 to FreeBSD to Mandrake to Fedora on this machine without any problems. And the Fedora install was a 6 month install that I yanked less than a week ago in exchange for SuSE. So that's really the only thing that's changed unless this is somehow indicative of a motherboard going bad or an IDE chain gone bad (I've already checked the RAM). Otherwise, I have to believe it's something with the OS. And it always works at the start. It goes bad after a few updates online.
You may want to try this: http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2001/08/hmeyer_memtest-sig11.html This is just to test for any stability issues. To me it (your description of the symptom) doesn't sound like one - but on the other hand, this is certainly not a "normal" behaviour of the 9.1 release. So something is odd here. Did you install any software other than that provided on the SUSE install media? Greetings from Bremen hartmut
On Friday 21 May 2004 03:33, me@prestoncrawford.com wrote:
So now I'm completely lost. A computer that functioned perfectly fine now goes completely haywire every couple days no matter what hard drive or filesystem I use. I really have no choice but to consider that the problem
I know this may seem stupid, but................have you checked the CMos battery. I've seen those things do some pretty weird stuff after a couple years. Most use a 2023 battery available just about anywhere. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 06:34, Billie E. Walsh wrote:
On Friday 21 May 2004 03:33, me@prestoncrawford.com wrote:
So now I'm completely lost. A computer that functioned perfectly fine now goes completely haywire every couple days no matter what hard drive or filesystem I use. I really have no choice but to consider that the problem
I know this may seem stupid, but................have you checked the CMos battery. I've seen those things do some pretty weird stuff after a couple years. Most use a 2023 battery available just about anywhere.
I thought about that too. Especially since my computer is about 3 years old. But my date and time and everything are held fine. I'm running Fedora right now and everything is going fine. So I don't know what to make of it. Preston
Preston Crawford wrote:
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 06:34, Billie E. Walsh wrote:
On Friday 21 May 2004 03:33, me@prestoncrawford.com wrote:
So now I'm completely lost. A computer that functioned perfectly fine now goes completely haywire every couple days no matter what hard drive or filesystem I use. I really have no choice but to consider that the problem
I know this may seem stupid, but................have you checked the CMos battery. I've seen those things do some pretty weird stuff after a couple years. Most use a 2023 battery available just about anywhere.
I thought about that too. Especially since my computer is about 3 years old. But my date and time and everything are held fine. I'm running Fedora right now and everything is going fine. So I don't know what to make of it.
Preston
If it weren't for the fact that Fedora runs without problems, I'd have said it was a hardware problem. I have SuSE 9.1 installed on 1 box and 2 laptops, one with x86_64, all running well. This is a truely strange one. It still could be hardware, something that SuSE 9.1 is doing/using that Fedora doesn't. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 14:51, Sid Boyce wrote:
Preston Crawford wrote:
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 06:34, Billie E. Walsh wrote:
On Friday 21 May 2004 03:33, me@prestoncrawford.com wrote:
So now I'm completely lost. A computer that functioned perfectly fine now goes completely haywire every couple days no matter what hard drive or filesystem I use. I really have no choice but to consider that the problem
I know this may seem stupid, but................have you checked the CMos battery. I've seen those things do some pretty weird stuff after a couple years. Most use a 2023 battery available just about anywhere.
I thought about that too. Especially since my computer is about 3 years old. But my date and time and everything are held fine. I'm running Fedora right now and everything is going fine. So I don't know what to make of it.
Preston
If it weren't for the fact that Fedora runs without problems, I'd have said it was a hardware problem. I have SuSE 9.1 installed on 1 box and 2 laptops, one with x86_64, all running well. This is a truely strange one. It still could be hardware, something that SuSE 9.1 is doing/using that Fedora doesn't. Regards Sid.
Yeah. It's certainly odd. Fedora has behaved fine since install. Just like before. Maybe something in the new kernel. I hope not. My hardware is compatible now. Preston
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Billie E. Walsh
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Hartmut Meyer
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me@prestoncrawford.com
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Preston Crawford
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Sid Boyce