On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 12:51:21AM -0900, John Andersen wrote:

On Monday 25 December 2006 16:19, Clint Tinsley wrote:

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But in openSuSE's defense, this is a community distribution,

What part if it strikes you as a "community distribution"?

Do you or I have a vote on what goes in it?

scuze me while I suck a few more rpms off of Packman and Guru to get my machine up to the multi-media functionality Kubuntu 6.10 delivered right off blue and white the dvd.

Does it play MP3s and DVDs? Without installing anything from the network? CIao, MArcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* John Andersen [12-27-06 02:05]:

But its hard to test a DVD movie on a liveCD.

Hint: Put the movie dvd in your second dvd drive :^) could *not* resist :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Now that you guys have started to get your boxed sets, I would like to tell you a little story. Once upon a time a distro was released on Dec 7th, the parent company eager to impress it's friends, had it's internal auditors check the distro for its readiness, it did an md5sum check, a check for installation errors in it's test lest lab, checked for obvious "stop" errors, checked all it's legal obligations and decided it was OK to "press". The distro was then sent to the "pressroom" where it was loaded to 100+ duplicators,and the artwork for the disk label was setup on it's press and some tests where run, maybe the label wasn't straight or the duplicators overheated but there was some "minor" delay maybe a day or so but the "presses" began to produce. Then the packaging line started up, "fill up the slip cover machine, start the box folder, warm up the shrink wrapper" said the foreman. by late in the day on December 15th they had their first truckload ready to go, a whole working week after the distro was "released"!, an amazing effort considering their competition has delayed it's new release for months and this distro has had two full releases in the same time frame and the competition still needs a month to go. but the story isn't over you see, this little distro was still in trouble and was going to be delayed again, You see it was X-mas time and all the mean shipping people couldn't get to pickup that first truckload for a couple of days. they where to busy bringing all those nasty x-mas presents and holiday gifts. This meant that the first truckload wouldn't get picked up until Tuesday the 19th, "oh no!" cried the distro's production foreman, "we are not going to make it out this week, it's X-mas!" he said. But much to his surprise on Thursday the 21st of December with the next trailer load ready and waiting and there pulled up a UPS truck to hall it away, and the same for the next day and even Saturday the 23rd, but still not everyone or even hardly anyone got their copy until after X-mas. :( this made a lot of little boys and girls sad, but when they got their new distro and saw all the new and improved features, they all lived happily ever after! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 27 December 2006 04:34, jdd wrote:

here, in France, I got my gift copy before christmas, but didn't say so not to eager the people waiting :-()

Brilliant! First time I've seen eager used as a verb. And correctly at that! Even in France they know how to verb the language. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Nikolaos Ladis wrote:

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for the next day and even Saturday the 23rd, but still not everyone or even hardly anyone got their copy until after X-mas. here, in France, I got my gift copy before christmas, but didn't say so not to eager the people waiting :-()

enjoy jdd -- It will be very kind of you to tell me if you got your gift from US or from a European dealer, as I have miserably failed to locate anybody in my country (Greece) selling 10.2. I cannot locate either a major European dealer who sells it. It is the first time that I've noticed such a delay in distribution here, and

On Wednesday 27 December 2006 15:34, jdd wrote: that's very sad indeed. :-(

Thanks Nick

http://www.novell.com/products/opensuse/resellers/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Torsdag 28 december 2006 14:27 skrev James Knott:

Ulf Rasch wrote:

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Nikolaos Ladis wrote:

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On Wednesday 27 December 2006 15:34, jdd wrote:

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for the next day and even Saturday the 23rd, but still not everyone or even hardly anyone got their copy until after X-mas.

here, in France, I got my gift copy before christmas, but didn't say so not to eager the people waiting :-()

enjoy jdd --

It will be very kind of you to tell me if you got your gift from US or from a European dealer, as I have miserably failed to locate anybody in my country (Greece) selling 10.2. I cannot locate either a major European dealer who sells it. It is the first time that I've noticed such a delay in distribution here, and that's very sad indeed. :-(

Thanks Nick

http://www.novell.com/products/opensuse/resellers/

Well, that map proves no one is reselling SUSE. No matter where you click nothing comes up.

I don't understand your findings. Click Denmark and see 4 resellers and 1 distributor coming up. I didn't try the other countries though. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Torsdag 28 december 2006 14:27 skrev James Knott:

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Ulf Rasch wrote:

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Nikolaos Ladis wrote:

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On Wednesday 27 December 2006 15:34, jdd wrote:

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James Tremblay a ιcrit :

> for the next day and even Saturday the 23rd, but still not everyone or > even hardly anyone got their copy until after X-mas. > here, in France, I got my gift copy before christmas, but didn't say so not to eager the people waiting :-()

enjoy jdd --

It will be very kind of you to tell me if you got your gift from US or from a European dealer, as I have miserably failed to locate anybody in my country (Greece) selling 10.2. I cannot locate either a major European dealer who sells it. It is the first time that I've noticed such a delay in distribution here, and that's very sad indeed. :-(

Thanks Nick

http://www.novell.com/products/opensuse/resellers/

Well, that map proves no one is reselling SUSE. No matter where you click nothing comes up.

I don't understand your findings. Click Denmark and see 4 resellers and 1 distributor coming up. I didn't try the other countries though.

Apparently, it only fails with Mozilla. It works with Konqueror.

Hi guys Bought my box version from this place: http://www.edv-buchversand.de/ ordered it the 21th december and it arrived in Denmark the 23.th dec, so they are very fast :) remember to check the email they send you, they want confirmation for extra postal costs for sending outside Germany. Best Niels -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFk+YKsTwPd+RomMERAnINAKChW3Vcdp+U78HD9TRTEhJFBg301QCeP2Ai cl3WlH9J7ACwXrHsdmMQTHM= =HFpK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 29 December 2006 10:57, Nikolaos Ladis wrote:

On Thursday 28 December 2006 17:43, Niels Østergaard Kjær wrote:

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Nikolaos Ladis wrote: > On Wednesday 27 December 2006 15:34, jdd wrote: >> James Tremblay a ΞΉcrit : >>> for the next day and even Saturday the 23rd, but still not

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Hi guys

Bought my box version from this place: http://www.edv-buchversand.de/

ordered it the 21th december and it arrived in Denmark the 23.th dec, so they are very fast :) remember to check the email they send you, they want confirmation for extra postal costs for sending outside Germany.

Best

Niels

Thanks for your help, but the site is in German and that language is unknown to me I am afraid. :-(

Hello Nikolaos http://www.edv-buchversand.de/ appears to be the only place you can order from in Europe. I had the same problems as you with the German language, but Tobias Niedermeier. can answer mails in English. He did so for me and I think I will soon get my 10.2 boxed set. here is the e-mail address  hallo@edv-buchversand.de and the post Post: EDV-BUCHVERSAND Delf Michel       An der Hasenjagd 4    D42897 Remscheid Hope you will succeed -- Paul Ollion. Proud Linux User SuSE 9.3 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Andersen wrote:

On Monday 25 December 2006 16:19, Clint Tinsley wrote:

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But in openSuSE's defense, this is a community distribution,

What part if it strikes you as a "community distribution"?

Do you or I have a vote on what goes in it?

Yes you do. Well, maybe not explicitly a vote, but you do have a say. When support for JFS disappeared in 10.0 (I believe it was), I spent quite a lot of time arguing why and how it should be reinstated. In 10.1 JFS was back as a supported root filesystem, and with 10.2 JFS is now back as install-filesystem, even if officially unsupported. I very humbly believe that is at least partially because of my insisting on it. Perhaps openSUSE is not yet quite what'd you'd call a community distro, but it's well under way there. Just think of the amount of time we spend talking/arguing/thinking/cursing/worrying about it. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - managed email security. Starting at SFr4/user/month. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org