I read this in the register: Linux update withholds security info on DMCA terror http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/22536.html It seems Alan Cox is withholding security information about security updates to the 2.2 series kernel to American users (even blocking them from the site). He claims to fear the consequences of the DMCA by disclosing that info. Okay, I think he's making a political point. Because the DMCA doesn't prohibit this... and he's partly right, because poor Dimitry is still being charged and facing 25 years off jailtime. But by doing this, the American free-software foundation is harmed. The government is hardly going to notice this. We should target them for restricting freedom, not the people that are defending that freedom. Just my 2 ? ;-) Kind regards Guy ______________________________________________________ Get Your FREE FlashMail Address now at http://www.flashmail.com It's Free, Easy, & Fun !!!
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 12:25:55AM -0800, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
I read this in the register:
Linux update withholds security info on DMCA terror http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/22536.html
It seems Alan Cox is withholding security information about security updates to the 2.2 series kernel to American users (even blocking them from the site).
He claims to fear the consequences of the DMCA by disclosing that info. Okay, I think he's making a political point. Because the DMCA doesn't prohibit this... and he's partly right, because poor Dimitry is still being charged and facing 25 years off jailtime. But by doing this, the American free-software foundation is harmed. The government is hardly going to notice this.
We should target them for restricting freedom, not the people that are defending
As a European I have only the vaguest notion of what the DCMA is, I did take the trouble to look at a NYT artivle about it a while ago. I think AC may not just be making a political point, no-one wants to go to jail. My impression however is that the details could be available on non-US sites, since these kinds of laws don't exist yet (although I believe the UK are discussing such issues). It all sounds very unhealthy, whatever it is. The Internet makes such laws a farce anyway, it was the same with all the cryptography nonsense that was going on until recently. Slightly off-topic but interesting (possibly also not true) the adding of disclaimers in emails (you know the ones that tell you not to read them unless you are the recipient and all that shit) may actually be illegal in Germany without the consent of the sender of the mail. Funny old world isn't it :) -- Regards Cliff
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
My impression however is that the details could be available on non-US sites, since these kinds of laws don't exist yet (although I believe the UK are discussing such issues). It all sounds very unhealthy, whatever it is.
Indeed, and they are available at http://www.thefreeworld.net Whilst there's nothing actually stopping a .us citizen from downloading the information there, agreeing to the disclaimer removes the responsibility of the maintainers. And ironically could probably be classed as 'bypassing rights management controls' and be breaking the DMCA 8-) but, IANAL etc..
Funny old world isn't it :)
Yup, and getting funnier. Nonsense like the DMCA, SSSCA and whatever they think up next is just the beginning I fear. Dave. -- | Dave Jones. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk | SuSE Labs
The DMCA is an intelligent legally protected domestic terrorist organization, and until the constitution of the United States of America is put back in place, you have no rights. You might as well own guns, do drugs, and use encryption if it makes you feel good, because were talking about Bio warfare and Radiation. Linux won't matter very much if this trend continues. (nothing matter's except how well your vaporized soul travels) 20 suitcase nukes missing?! hmmmm that can't be good. -- I'm a Vet! http://members.osb.net/phil On Wednesday 31 October 2001 05:21 am, you wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
My impression however is that the details could be available on non-US sites, since these kinds of laws don't exist yet (although I believe the UK are discussing such issues). It all sounds very unhealthy, whatever it is.
Indeed, and they are available at http://www.thefreeworld.net Whilst there's nothing actually stopping a .us citizen from downloading the information there, agreeing to the disclaimer removes the responsibility of the maintainers.
And ironically could probably be classed as 'bypassing rights management controls' and be breaking the DMCA 8-)
but, IANAL etc..
Funny old world isn't it :)
Yup, and getting funnier. Nonsense like the DMCA, SSSCA and whatever they think up next is just the beginning I fear.
Dave.
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