hi i use suse 10.1 i installed new kernel and kernel source from http://software.opensuse.org/download/Kernel/SUSE_Linux_10.1/x86_64/ my boot folder backup_mbr boot -> . config-2.6.16.13-4 config-2.6.16.20-1.1-default grub nitrd -> initrd-2.6.16.20-1.1-default initrd-2.6.16.13-4 initrd-2.6.16.20-1.1-default message symsets-2.6.16.13-4.tar.gz symsets-2.6.16.20-1.1-default.tar.gz symtypes-2.6.16.13-4.gz symtypes-2.6.16.20-1.1-default.gz symvers-2.6.16.13-4.gz symvers-2.6.16.20-1.1-default.gz System.map-2.6.16.13-4 System.map-2.6.16.20-1.1-default vmlinux-2.6.16.13-4.gz vmlinux-2.6.16.20-1.1-default.gz vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.6.16.20-1.1-default vmlinuz-2.6.16.13-4 vmlinuz-2.6.16.20-1.1-default my grub menu ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title SUSE Linux 10.1 root (hd0,4) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda5 vga=0x31a resume=/dev/sda9 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd ###Don''t change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title SUSE LINUX 10.1 old kernel root (hd0,4) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.16.13-4 root=/dev/sda5 vga=0x31a resume=/dev/sda9 splash=silent showopts initrd /initrd-2.6.16.13-4 i can boot on the new kernel..... but when i try to boot to my old kernel i get from grub Error 15: File not found habitually this error mean "File not found" This error is returned if the specified filename cannot be found, but everything else (like the disk/partition info) is OK any idea? -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 05:06, Marc Collin wrote:
hi
i use suse 10.1
i installed new kernel and kernel source from http://software.opensuse.org/download/Kernel/SUSE_Linux_10.1/x86_64/
Don't! It's not even the latest one. The one the developers actually want you to test (as opposed to warn you against using) is in ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda5 vga=0x31a resume=/dev/sda9
This one says /boot/
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.16.13-4 root=/dev/sda5 vga=0x31a
This one doesn't -- Ut supra post festum sunt obscura -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 05:06, Marc Collin wrote:
hi
i use suse 10.1
i installed new kernel and kernel source from http://software.opensuse.org/download/Kernel/SUSE_Linux_10.1/x86_64/
Don't!
It's not even the latest one. The one the developers actually want you to test (as opposed to warn you against using) is in ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj
[rest pruned] Anders, For weeks now I have been reading with astonishment but more with frustration the threads in this forum where the sources for updating SuSE 10.1 have been mentioned whether this be with YOU (or me) or rug (or carpet) or smart or apt, etc. There are zillions of sources being mentioned - or so it seems. The ones mentioned above - by Marc and you - both contain the word "suse" in the server names: "software.opensuse.org" and "ftp.suse.com". To me, and I am sure to many others in a similar situation as myself, having "suse" in the download server name indicates that whatever is at that site is a SuSE written and supported "product". If I go outside the "suse" realm - like, for example, ftp.kde.org or www.kernel.org or packman.links2linux.com - I know that I am on my own and if I download from there I am in the situation of "You pays your money and you takes your chances". At the same, there appears to be at least 1 URL which does not have "suse" in the server's name yet is recognised as having official SuSE supported updates available. This is http://packam.iu-bremen.de . All just a bit confusing overall. For the record -and I did put this question to this forum already, some weeks back - can you point me to a source which contains in a single, well explained, list stating which sources have to be used, and which must not be used or at least may be used but with strong provisos, to update SuSE 10.1? A list which shows that for YOU or apt or smart use the following sources, and if using smart then the TYPE is 'yast2' or 'rpm-sys' or 'rpm-md' or whatever. Back in the Days of Milk and Honey when we had a workable and sensible system called YOU installed with versions upto and including 10.0, the sources were automatically given to us, common garden-type, SuSE users. But now this is all gone, gone in a puff of somebody's petulance and wonky 'thinking'. The result has been shambles. Confusion and frustration are now rampart amongst the majority of the population. Is there a source of a list of the URLs/sources which clearly, precisely, and unambiguously states that for updating all the parts of SuSE 10.1 you use these sources, and that if you want to "takes your chances" then use the following sources? If there isn't shouldn't SuSE fianlly take some time out and prepare such a list(s)? And I do not mean the present list of sources and mirrors which is on the Novell site- this list is less than informative. Cheers. -- "It is well known that among the blind, the one-eyed man is king". Desiderius Erasmus -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Is there a source of a list of the URLs/sources which clearly, precisely, and unambiguously states that for updating all the parts of SuSE 10.1 you use these sources, and that if you want to "takes your chances" then use the following sources? If there isn't shouldn't SuSE fianlly take some time out and prepare such a list(s)? And I do not mean the present list of sources and mirrors which is on the Novell site- this list is less than informative.
The "official" supported update source is the one you get from the Online Update Registration. Those all look like ".......suse/update/10.1/". Then there is the installation sources pointing to a valid installation medium (dvd:// or .../inst-source/) _ALL_ other sources are additional, unsupported sources with potentially new and untested packages. software.opensuse.org especially points to the openSUSE buildservice, the equivalent of the format "supplemental" and is _unsupported_. Ciao, Marcus -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Marcus Meissner wrote:
Is there a source of a list of the URLs/sources which clearly, precisely, and unambiguously states that for updating all the parts of SuSE 10.1 you use these sources, and that if you want to "takes your chances" then use the following sources? If there isn't shouldn't SuSE fianlly take some time out and prepare such a list(s)? And I do not mean the present list of sources and mirrors which is on the Novell site- this list is less than informative.
The "official" supported update source is the one you get from the Online Update Registration.
Those all look like ".......suse/update/10.1/".
Then there is the installation sources pointing to a valid installation medium (dvd:// or .../inst-source/)
_ALL_ other sources are additional, unsupported sources with potentially new and untested packages.
software.opensuse.org especially points to the openSUSE buildservice, the equivalent of the format "supplemental" and is _unsupported_.
Ciao, Marcus
Thanks Marcus. I'll check my current sources (channels because I am using smart) to see how they rate against these criteria. Cheers. -- "It is well known that among the blind, the one-eyed man is king". Desiderius Erasmus -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 00:50, Basil Chupin wrote:
For the record -and I did put this question to this forum already, some weeks back - can you point me to a source which contains in a single, well explained, list stating which sources have to be used, and which must not be used or at least may be used but with strong provisos, to update SuSE 10.1?
A list which shows that for YOU or apt or smart use the following sources, and if using smart then the TYPE is 'yast2' or 'rpm-sys' or 'rpm-md' or whatever.
Hear, hear... I too get confused with all the URLs and update schemes available. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 11:16 -0400, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 00:50, Basil Chupin wrote:
For the record -and I did put this question to this forum already, some weeks back - can you point me to a source which contains in a single, well explained, list stating which sources have to be used, and which must not be used or at least may be used but with strong provisos, to update SuSE 10.1?
A list which shows that for YOU or apt or smart use the following sources, and if using smart then the TYPE is 'yast2' or 'rpm-sys' or 'rpm-md' or whatever.
Hear, hear... I too get confused with all the URLs and update schemes available.
Now, now. That's only because, like me, you are easily confused. :-) -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 11:16, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 00:50, Basil Chupin wrote:
For the record -and I did put this question to this forum already, some weeks back - can you point me to a source which contains in a single, well explained, list stating which sources have to be used, and which must not be used or at least may be used but with strong provisos, to update SuSE 10.1?
A list which shows that for YOU or apt or smart use the following sources, and if using smart then the TYPE is 'yast2' or 'rpm-sys' or 'rpm-md' or whatever.
Hear, hear... I too get confused with all the URLs and update schemes available. Try
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/ Ralph Ellis -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Ralph Ellis wrote:
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 11:16, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 00:50, Basil Chupin wrote:
For the record -and I did put this question to this forum already, some weeks back - can you point me to a source which contains in a single, well explained, list stating which sources have to be used, and which must not be used or at least may be used but with strong provisos, to update SuSE 10.1?
A list which shows that for YOU or apt or smart use the following sources, and if using smart then the TYPE is 'yast2' or 'rpm-sys' or 'rpm-md' or whatever. Hear, hear... I too get confused with all the URLs and update schemes available. Try
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/
Ralph Ellis
So you reckon that the new kernel, and all the other goodies, there are OK to use? :-) According to what Marcus stated in one of the other threads an URL with "inst-source" in it is OK to use for updates -- so here comes my addition to my smart channels! :-) . Cheers. -- "It is well known that among the blind, the one-eyed man is king". Desiderius Erasmus -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Basil Chupin wrote:
Ralph Ellis wrote:
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 11:16, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 00:50, Basil Chupin wrote:
For the record -and I did put this question to this forum already, some weeks back - can you point me to a source which contains in a single, well explained, list stating which sources have to be used, and which must not be used or at least may be used but with strong provisos, to update SuSE 10.1?
A list which shows that for YOU or apt or smart use the following sources, and if using smart then the TYPE is 'yast2' or 'rpm-sys' or 'rpm-md' or whatever. Hear, hear... I too get confused with all the URLs and update schemes available. Try
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/
Ralph Ellis
So you reckon that the new kernel, and all the other goodies, there are OK to use? :-)
According to what Marcus stated in one of the other threads an URL with "inst-source" in it is OK to use for updates -- so here comes my addition to my smart channels! :-) .
Cheers.
Under http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/ I can see many folders. What is the exact difference between SL-10.1 and SL-OSS-factory. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Jacob David wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Ralph Ellis wrote:
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 11:16, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 00:50, Basil Chupin wrote:
For the record -and I did put this question to this forum already, some weeks back - can you point me to a source which contains in a single, well explained, list stating which sources have to be used, and which must not be used or at least may be used but with strong provisos, to update SuSE 10.1?
A list which shows that for YOU or apt or smart use the following sources, and if using smart then the TYPE is 'yast2' or 'rpm-sys' or 'rpm-md' or whatever. Hear, hear... I too get confused with all the URLs and update schemes available. Try
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/
Ralph Ellis So you reckon that the new kernel, and all the other goodies, there are OK to use? :-)
According to what Marcus stated in one of the other threads an URL with "inst-source" in it is OK to use for updates -- so here comes my addition to my smart channels! :-) .
Cheers.
Under http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/ I can see many folders. What is the exact difference between SL-10.1 and SL-OSS-factory.
The short answer to your question is: I don't know :-) . You can do a comparison of the 2 URLs and see what the difference could be but the SL-OSS one has a newer kernel and KDE files which are not on SL-10.1. And seeing as how I always like to run "the latest", I want to install the newer kernel :-) . BTW, if you want to add the SL-OSS-factory source as a channel in the smart update program then SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/ is type=rpm-md but if you drop the "suse/" from the end then the channel becomes type=yast2. All this comes from one of the people who knows what he is talking about in the smart forum when I asked a question about how to determine the TYPE. Cheers. -- "It is well known that among the blind, the one-eyed man is king". Desiderius Erasmus -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
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