Need help with shut down problem
When I either try to log off KDE or do a complete shutdown or restart, my system always hangs just as it's leaving KDE. I get a black screen with my cursor on it and then everything freezes. I can't control-alt-backspace, my cursor doesn't move, my keyboard doesn't work...nothing. The only way to get out is to hit the reset button. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I'm running 9.1 Pro with KDE 3.2.91. BTW, my second system, which is running the same thing, has no problem. Thanks! -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
Hi Tom,
I have had a freeze happen to me when I tried to
adjust some monitor settings that did not quite fall
in the range of allowed values.
This is just a shot in the dark but check your
settings and make sure they are correct.
Good luck.
George
--- Tom Nielsen
When I either try to log off KDE or do a complete shutdown or restart, my system always hangs just as it's leaving KDE. I get a black screen with my cursor on it and then everything freezes. I can't control-alt-backspace, my cursor doesn't move, my keyboard doesn't work...nothing. The only way to get out is to hit the reset button. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I'm running 9.1 Pro with KDE 3.2.91. BTW, my second system, which is running the same thing, has no problem.
Thanks! -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
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On Monday 02 August 2004 19:11, Tom Nielsen wrote:
When I either try to log off KDE or do a complete shutdown or restart, my system always hangs just as it's leaving KDE. I get a black screen with my cursor on it and then everything freezes. I can't control-alt-backspace, my cursor doesn't move, my keyboard doesn't work...nothing. The only way to get out is to hit the reset button. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I'm running 9.1 Pro with KDE 3.2.91. BTW, my second system, which is running the same thing, has no problem.
1) Anything in the logs? directory: /var/log/, files: boot.msg, boot.omsg, messages, warn 2) What happens if you boot into runlevel 3, login in textmode, and shutdown? 3) Like 2), but run 'startx' and logout of KDE first before shutting down. Cheers, Leen
On Monday 02 August 2004 10:58 am, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 19:11, Tom Nielsen wrote:
When I either try to log off KDE or do a complete shutdown or restart, my system always hangs just as it's leaving KDE. I get a black screen with my cursor on it and then everything freezes. I can't control-alt-backspace, my cursor doesn't move, my keyboard doesn't work...nothing. The only way to get out is to hit the reset button. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I'm running 9.1 Pro with KDE 3.2.91. BTW, my second system, which is running the same thing, has no problem.
1) Anything in the logs?
directory: /var/log/, files: boot.msg, boot.omsg, messages, warn Don't know...let me check
2) What happens if you boot into runlevel 3, login in textmode, and shutdown? How do it do that?
3) Like 2), but run 'startx' and logout of KDE first before shutting down.
Cheers,
Leen
Thanks for the ideas! -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
On Monday 02 August 2004 20:29, Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 10:58 am, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 19:11, Tom Nielsen wrote:
When I either try to log off KDE or do a complete shutdown or restart, my system always hangs just as it's leaving KDE. I get a black screen with my cursor on it and then everything freezes. I can't control-alt-backspace, my cursor doesn't move, my keyboard doesn't work...nothing. The only way to get out is to hit the reset button. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I'm running 9.1 Pro with KDE 3.2.91. BTW, my second system, which is running the same thing, has no problem.
1) Anything in the logs?
directory: /var/log/, files: boot.msg, boot.omsg, messages, warn
Don't know...let me check
2) What happens if you boot into runlevel 3, login in textmode, and shutdown?
How do it do that?
At the boot prompt, just enter the number '3' (no quotes) and hit <Enter>
3) Like 2), but run 'startx' and logout of KDE first before shutting down.
Cheers, Leen
On Monday 02 August 2004 11:43 am, Leendert Meyer wrote:
1) Anything in the logs?
directory: /var/log/, files: boot.msg, boot.omsg, messages, warn
Don't know...let me check
Nothing I can see in the logs.
2) What happens if you boot into runlevel 3, login in textmode, and shutdown?
Locked up. I tried control-alt-F2 and everything locked up. I had to reboot.
3) Like 2), but run 'startx' and logout of KDE first before shutting down. Locked up.
Cheers,
Leen
-- ---------------------------- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ----------------------------
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 07:40, Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 11:43 am, Leendert Meyer wrote:
1) Anything in the logs?
directory: /var/log/, files: boot.msg, boot.omsg, messages, warn
Don't know...let me check
Nothing I can see in the logs.
2) What happens if you boot into runlevel 3, login in textmode, and shutdown?
Locked up.
I tried control-alt-F2 and everything locked up. I had to reboot.
Now you confuse me. Did you follow my instructions to boot into runlevel 3? I made a html-page to show what I mean, have a look at: http://cc22149-a.groni1.gr.home.nl/booting/boot.html
3) Like 2), but run 'startx' and logout of KDE first before shutting down.
Locked up.
Cheers, Leen
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 6:53 am, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 07:40, Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 11:43 am, Leendert Meyer wrote:
1) Anything in the logs?
directory: /var/log/, files: boot.msg, boot.omsg, messages, warn
Don't know...let me check
Nothing I can see in the logs.
2) What happens if you boot into runlevel 3, login in textmode, and shutdown?
Locked up.
I tried control-alt-F2 and everything locked up. I had to reboot.
Now you confuse me. Did you follow my instructions to boot into runlevel 3?
I made a html-page to show what I mean, have a look at:
http://cc22149-a.groni1.gr.home.nl/booting/boot.html
3) Like 2), but run 'startx' and logout of KDE first before shutting down.
I did not do it the way you said. Sorry, I didn't understand what you said. I got your page and will try it tonight.
I tried to switch to a different runlevel to shut down....when I tried to switch my system locked up on me. Tom -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 19:41, Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 6:53 am, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 07:40, Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 11:43 am, Leendert Meyer wrote:
1) Anything in the logs?
directory: /var/log/, files: boot.msg, boot.omsg, messages, warn
Don't know...let me check
Nothing I can see in the logs.
2) What happens if you boot into runlevel 3, login in textmode, and shutdown?
Locked up.
I tried control-alt-F2 and everything locked up. I had to reboot.
Now you confuse me. Did you follow my instructions to boot into runlevel 3?
I made a html-page to show what I mean, have a look at:
http://cc22149-a.groni1.gr.home.nl/booting/boot.html
3) Like 2), but run 'startx' and logout of KDE first before shutting down.
I did not do it the way you said. Sorry, I didn't understand what you said. I got your page and will try it tonight.
Ah, so my feeling was right... ;)
I tried to switch to a different runlevel to shut down....when I tried to switch my system locked up on me.
The command to shutdown is: shutdown -h now Cheers, Leen
I didn't have a chance to do the below thought, so I'm not sure if it would have worked. I just upgraded KDE to 3.3 and everything seems to work fine as far as logging out, shutting down, or rebooting. Tom On Tuesday 03 August 2004 11:00 am, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 19:41, Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 6:53 am, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 07:40, Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 11:43 am, Leendert Meyer wrote:
> 1) Anything in the logs? > > directory: /var/log/, files: boot.msg, boot.omsg, messages, > warn
Don't know...let me check
Nothing I can see in the logs.
> 2) What happens if you boot into runlevel 3, login in textmode, > and shutdown?
Locked up.
I tried control-alt-F2 and everything locked up. I had to reboot.
Now you confuse me. Did you follow my instructions to boot into runlevel 3?
I made a html-page to show what I mean, have a look at:
http://cc22149-a.groni1.gr.home.nl/booting/boot.html
> 3) Like 2), but run 'startx' and logout of KDE first before > shutting down.
I did not do it the way you said. Sorry, I didn't understand what you said. I got your page and will try it tonight.
Ah, so my feeling was right... ;)
I tried to switch to a different runlevel to shut down....when I tried to switch my system locked up on me.
The command to shutdown is:
shutdown -h now
Cheers,
Leen
-- ---------------------------- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ----------------------------
On 02.08.04,10:11, Tom Nielsen wrote:
When I either try to log off KDE or do a complete shutdown or restart, my system always hangs just as it's leaving KDE. I get a black screen with my cursor on it and then everything freezes. I can't control-alt-backspace, my cursor doesn't move, my keyboard doesn't work...nothing. The only way to get out is to hit the reset button. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I'm running 9.1 Pro with KDE 3.2.91. BTW, my second system, which is running the same thing, has no problem.
That is the KDE unstable version. Have you tried KDE 3.2.3 og 3.2.92?
Should be more stable.
- Jostein
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Jostein Berntsen
When I either try to log off KDE or do a complete shutdown or restart, my system always hangs just as it's leaving KDE. I get a black screen with my cursor on it and then everything freezes. I can't control-alt-backspace, my cursor doesn't move, my keyboard doesn't work...nothing. The only way to get out is to hit the reset button. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I'm running 9.1 Pro with KDE 3.2.91. BTW, my second system, which is running the same thing, has no problem.
Thanks! I would suggest that you go to another terminal by depressing the following keys: Ctrl and Alt. Now whilst you have have them depressed
Tom Nielsen wrote: press one of the function keys F1-F6 Login as root and at the prompt issue the 'startx' command. Once X has started immediately log out as root. This will take you back to the CLI. Now enter 'shutdown -r now' to restart the machine. I assume X starts automatically allowing you login as the NON-root user. Again once you have logged in, logout immediately and choose the option in the KDE 'Shutdown' menu to halt the system. OK the message and see if the system shuts down correctly. As a final test switch on the machine and login as NON-root user. Again immediately log off and elect to shut the box down. This should happen without error as any bad shutdown methods would have been cleared when you previously shut the machine down. HIH -- The Little Helper ======================================================================== Hylton Conacher - Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org Currently using SuSE 9.0 Professional with KDE 3.1 Licenced Windows user ========================================================================
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 13:48, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
When I either try to log off KDE or do a complete shutdown or restart, my system always hangs just as it's leaving KDE. I get a black screen with my cursor on it and then everything freezes. I can't control-alt-backspace, my cursor doesn't move, my keyboard doesn't work...nothing. The only way to get out is to hit the reset button. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I'm running 9.1 Pro with KDE 3.2.91. BTW, my second system, which is running the same thing, has no problem.
Thanks! I would suggest that you go to another terminal by depressing the following keys: Ctrl and Alt. Now whilst you have have them depressed
Tom Nielsen wrote: press one of the function keys F1-F6
Login as root and at the prompt issue the 'startx' command.
Once X has started immediately log out as root. This will take you back to the CLI. Now enter 'shutdown -r now' to restart the machine. I may have missed something but why not just issue the shutdown command as soon as logged in instead of startx. man shutdown might help Regards Roger
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 13:48, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Tom Nielsen wrote:
When I either try to log off KDE or do a complete shutdown or restart, my system always hangs just as it's leaving KDE. I get a black screen with my cursor on it and then everything freezes. I can't control-alt-backspace, my cursor doesn't move, my keyboard doesn't work...nothing. The only way to get out is to hit the reset button. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I'm running 9.1 Pro with KDE 3.2.91. BTW, my second system, which is running the same thing, has no problem.
Thanks!
I would suggest that you go to another terminal by depressing the following keys: Ctrl and Alt. Now whilst you have have them depressed press one of the function keys F1-F6
Login as root and at the prompt issue the 'startx' command.
Once X has started immediately log out as root. This will take you back to the CLI. Now enter 'shutdown -r now' to restart the machine.
I may have missed something but why not just issue the shutdown command as soon as logged in instead of startx. man shutdown might help Nothing missed Roger :) asides from following the same boot up process
roger beever wrote: that is probably followed as a 'default'. Doing it my way could provide more details in the log files. It is just a suggestion to the original poster though. -- The Little Helper ======================================================================== Hylton Conacher - Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org Currently using SuSE 9.0 Professional with KDE 3.1 Licenced Windows user ========================================================================
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Tom Nielsen