Thanks for the answer!

On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 11:58:43AM +0200, jdd sur free wrote:

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Josef Wolf a écrit :

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What is the "official" command line tool to install packages on suse?

I know there are apt, smart, zypper and maybe even more. But I'd like to know which one is the "official" tool that is installed by default on every suse system.

to manage already downloaded package, the basic comand line tool is rpm.

rpm will not download. Maybe yours cannot, but mine does. You need to specify the full path to

On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 11:16, Josef Wolf wrote: the rpm you want to query/install/upgrade and it will download what is needed. eg: [work]$ rpm -qip http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.0... Name : acetoneiso2 Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.0.2 Vendor: openSUSE Build Service Release : 1.1 Build Date: Tue 22 Jul 2008 22:48:03 BST Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: build13 Group : System/GUI/KDE Source RPM: acetoneiso2-2.0.2-1.1.src.rpm Size : 910840 License: GPL v3 Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue 22 Jul 2008 22:47:16 BST, Key ID 58d8ff412e1efa87 URL : http://www.acetoneteam.org Summary : A complete software to manage CD/DVD images rich of features Description : A complete software to manage CD/DVD images rich of features. In example it can Mount typical proprietary images formats of the windows world and do plenty of other things. Distribution: KDE:KDE4:Community / openSUSE_11.0_KDE4_Factory_Desktop

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but better use yast, it works on console, using ncurse.

yast is not command line (that is, can't be used from scripts)

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yast, apt, smart and zypper are able to dl packages from the net, rpm is not

Can I expect smart or zypper to be installed by default on every suse box? Are they "official" package managers? Not smart, but maybe zypper. What you need to do is look into whether there are libraries that provide the functions you need and use those.

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you can probably call directly the yast module if what you want is use it from a script (but what do you want to do, in the first place?)

I want to install packages by script. I should have written this in my original mail, sorry. Then if you know their precise location, you can use rpm as the simplest way. You should also look into yum.

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On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 14:37, Josef Wolf wrote:

On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 11:42:30AM +0100, ne... wrote:

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rpm will not download. Maybe yours cannot, but mine does. You need to specify the full path to the rpm you want to query/install/upgrade and it will download what is needed. eg: [work]$ rpm -qip http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.0...

But then I will have to manage repositories and their dependencies by myself. This should be done by the package manager. And? At least this way you can vet and control what gets installed

What I am looking for is a command line tool like apt. That is, I can simply say

package-management-tool install some-package-name

in some script without bothering from which repository to get the package and which packages need to be pulled in addition to satisfy package dependencies.

BTW, something like

package-management-tool remove some-package-name

would be fine, too. Since you seem to be familiar with apt use it. Make sure it gets installed on the systems you are responsible for so that you know it is there. Zypper and yum can also be used.

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Can I expect smart or zypper to be installed by default on every suse box? Are they "official" package managers? Not smart, but maybe zypper.

Is zypper installed by default? On openSUSE11 and upwards, I think so. You need to find that out yourself.

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What you need to do is look into whether there are libraries that provide the functions you need and use those.

Hmm? I do not understand this. Which libraries provide functionality to automatically install packages? Go find out yourself. You are the one who wants to script this. There are many ways to script stuff.

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I want to install packages by script. I should have written this in my original mail, sorry. Then if you know their precise location, you can use rpm as the simplest way.

I do not want to care where the package is located. And I do not want to care which packages need to be pulled in addition to satisfy dependencies. That's the job of the package manager. Fine, so go investigate, try out and find out which tool will do the job for you.

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You should also look into yum.

Is yum official tool? Is it installed by default? No, yum is not official in that sense, rpm and yast are as has been mentioned numerous times in this thread. Yum is also not installed by default.

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On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 12:56:35PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

zypper is official, meaning it is maintained be suse. But I do not know if it is installed always, the main installer is Yast.

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On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 05:37:15PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Can yast be used non-interactive? I don't think so, it is not designed for such use. Zypper is.

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On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:42:16AM -0400, James Knott wrote:

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What is the "official" command line tool to install packages on suse?

I know there are apt, smart, zypper and maybe even more. But I'd like to know which one is the "official" tool that is installed by default on every suse system.

Last I heard, rpm was still there.

Will rpm manage multiple repositories and automatically resolve and install all package dependencies for me? What I am looking for is something like apt. I know there is apt for suse, but AFAIK, this is not officially supported and one can not expect that it is available on every suse install. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 14:22, Josef Wolf wrote:

On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:42:16AM -0400, James Knott wrote:

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What is the "official" command line tool to install packages on suse?

I know there are apt, smart, zypper and maybe even more. But I'd like to know which one is the "official" tool that is installed by default on every suse system.

Last I heard, rpm was still there.

Will rpm manage multiple repositories and automatically resolve and install all package dependencies for me? What I am looking for is something like apt. I know there is apt for suse, but AFAIK, this is not officially supported and one can not expect that it is available on every suse install. No, that is not the purpose of rpm but it is the only one guaranteed to be on every SUSE install. You will need to investigate how you are going script this. Zypper might be on all recent SUSE installs but that is not guaranteed.

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On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 02:49:50PM +0100, Benji Weber wrote:

2008/9/7 Josef Wolf :

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Will rpm manage multiple repositories and automatically resolve and install all package dependencies for me? What I am looking for is something like apt. I know there is apt for suse, but AFAIK, this is not officially supported and one can not expect that it is available on every suse install.

zypper is what you want. It is the official command line frontend to the openSUSE package management system. It is always installed by default, even in the minimal install.

Thanks Benji, this is exactly what I wanted to know.

It was not available prior to openSUSE 10.2 though.

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