I see we have another kernel update, great job getting the latest security fixes out in a timely manner. :-) BUT, I don't see an update in the Nvidia repo that corresponds to this kernel update, Does that mean that the driver is included in the kernel update? Is this an oversite or are you hoping for a flood of emails from people bitching about how the latest kernel update broke their "X" system again. This is not good for openSUSE's reputation. A little more coordination is needed here I think. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 08:24:20AM -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:
I see we have another kernel update, great job getting the latest security fixes out in a timely manner. :-)
BUT, I don't see an update in the Nvidia repo that corresponds to this kernel update, Does that mean that the driver is included in the kernel update? Is this an oversite or are you hoping for a flood of emails from people bitching about how the latest kernel update broke their "X" system again. This is not good for openSUSE's reputation. A little more coordination is needed here I think.
The kernel does not change the KABI symbols, the old NVIDIA (and ATI) driver will continue to work. (If you use the NVIDIA (or ATI) supplied KMPs.) Also in the meantime new madwifi-kmp-* packages have been supplied in http://madwifi.org/suse/10.3/ to match the current kernels. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 08:24:20AM -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:
I see we have another kernel update, great job getting the latest security fixes out in a timely manner. :-)
BUT, I don't see an update in the Nvidia repo that corresponds to this kernel update, Does that mean that the driver is included in the kernel update? Is this an oversite or are you hoping for a flood of emails from people bitching about how the latest kernel update broke their "X" system again. This is not good for openSUSE's reputation. A little more coordination is needed here I think.
The kernel does not change the KABI symbols, the old NVIDIA (and ATI) driver will continue to work.
(If you use the NVIDIA (or ATI) supplied KMPs.)
Also in the meantime new madwifi-kmp-* packages have been supplied in http://madwifi.org/suse/10.3/ to match the current kernels.
Ciao, Marcus
Good news. :-) A little note like the following would have been nice: "This kernel update does not require a corresponding update from Nvidia therefore you will have a version mismatch on the Nvidia driver packages" -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 08:39:07AM -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:
Marcus Meissner pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 08:24:20AM -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:
I see we have another kernel update, great job getting the latest security fixes out in a timely manner. :-)
BUT, I don't see an update in the Nvidia repo that corresponds to this kernel update, Does that mean that the driver is included in the kernel update? Is this an oversite or are you hoping for a flood of emails from people bitching about how the latest kernel update broke their "X" system again. This is not good for openSUSE's reputation. A little more coordination is needed here I think.
The kernel does not change the KABI symbols, the old NVIDIA (and ATI) driver will continue to work.
(If you use the NVIDIA (or ATI) supplied KMPs.)
Also in the meantime new madwifi-kmp-* packages have been supplied in http://madwifi.org/suse/10.3/ to match the current kernels.
Ciao, Marcus
Good news. :-) A little note like the following would have been nice:
"This kernel update does not require a corresponding update from Nvidia therefore you will have a version mismatch on the Nvidia driver packages"
Such negative statements are not helpful in my opinion. "You do not need to wait for full moon to install this kernel." ? Even the other way round (positives) such Notes are barely read. :( Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Marcus Meissner pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 08:39:07AM -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:
Marcus Meissner pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
The kernel does not change the KABI symbols, the old NVIDIA (and ATI) driver will continue to work.
(If you use the NVIDIA (or ATI) supplied KMPs.)
Also in the meantime new madwifi-kmp-* packages have been supplied in http://madwifi.org/suse/10.3/ to match the current kernels.
Ciao, Marcus Good news. :-) A little note like the following would have been nice:
"This kernel update does not require a corresponding update from Nvidia therefore you will have a version mismatch on the Nvidia driver packages"
Such negative statements are not helpful in my opinion. "You do not need to wait for full moon to install this kernel." ?
Even the other way round (positives) such Notes are barely read. :(
Ciao, Marcus
My apologies to you and the list as I had no reason to word my question the way I did. A simple yes/no question would have been much better on my part. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider wrote:
I see we have another kernel update, great job getting the latest security fixes out in a timely manner. :-)
BUT, I don't see an update in the Nvidia repo that corresponds to this kernel update, Does that mean that the driver is included in the kernel update? Is this an oversite or are you hoping for a flood of emails from people bitching about how the latest kernel update broke their "X" system again. This is not good for openSUSE's reputation. A little more coordination is needed here I think.
I don't speak for SGI in this forum. Opensuse uses weak module updates so it isn't necessary to upgrade the nvidia module unless there has been an abi change. If the installer complains or mentions that it will uninstall the nvidia driver then an upafte will be needed. A few kernel updates ago, not that long ago, this did happen where a new nvidia module update was posted because the abi changed. -- Sent from my wired giant hulking workstation Nate Pearlstein - npearl@sgi.com - Product Support Engineer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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