Jan Tiggy wrote:

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You can have amtrax and kaffine and xmms. The best media player out there is vlc. I have it on my Windows box and now I have it for Linux; and I thought it was only for Windows. Encrypted DVDs, no problem. It's got all the codecs you need. I'm one happy newbie Linux user. Got my jazz radio going on and passing on some hopefully good information. If you want it Google, vlc project; the download and install instructions are all there.

Not really. I take mplayer for movies and amarok for music. Vlc is used by me just for streaming xvid to my set-top-box and only out of CLI. IMO VLC is slow, the source code is crappy and the current release is just broken for my purposes. The last running release is 0.85a which I had to compile for SUSE 10.2 myself. It is probably the best player for Windows platforms but not for linux and that's for sure.

thx Jan

PS: And codecs definitely ain't the problem. ;) 0.86a is the current release and available through YaST2 with the proper installation source. I don't listen to CDs on the computer much if at all, but I like the wide variety of radio stations VLC offers through Shoutcast.

I wouldn't know about crappy source code and I don't find it slow on Linux, and I've got a slow machine. What do you mean crappy source code? Dwain -- Dwain Alford P.O. Box 145 Winfield, Alabama 35594 telephone: 205.487.2570 cellphone: 205.495.5619 "The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Wassily Kandinsky, "Concerning The Spiritual In Art" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Mark Goldstein wrote:

On 4/3/07, Jan Tiggy wrote:

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You can have amtrax and kaffine and xmms. The best media player out there is vlc. I have it on my Windows box and now I have it for Linux; and I thought it was only for Windows. Encrypted DVDs, no problem. It's got all the codecs you need. I'm one happy newbie Linux user. Got my jazz radio going on and passing on some hopefully good information. If you want it Google, vlc project; the download and install instructions are all there.

Not really. I take mplayer for movies and amarok for music. Vlc is used by me just for streaming xvid to my set-top-box and only out of CLI. IMO VLC is slow, the source code is crappy and the current release is just broken for my purposes. The last running release is 0.85a which I had to compile for SUSE 10.2 myself. It is probably the best player for Windows platforms but not for linux and that's for sure.

I tend to agree with Jan. I used mplayer for some years. After installing VLC in 10.2 I thought I will not need another player (I have version 0.8.6-0 from Packman). But recently I ripped a number of VOB files from DVD and discovered that VLC just could not play them correctly. VLC palyed couple of seconds and then jumped forward almost to the end and stopped. Not sure what could be the reason. I installed MPlayer from the same Packman repository and it played the videos fine.

Regards, I'll have to try mplayer then. I don't think my video card will do very well with videos, and I think my sound card is getting ready to die. It's starting to hiss, or it could be my headphones.

Dwain -- Dwain Alford P.O. Box 145 Winfield, Alabama 35594 telephone: 205.487.2570 cellphone: 205.495.5619 "The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Wassily Kandinsky, "Concerning The Spiritual In Art" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 04:50 -0500, dwain wrote:

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I'll have to try mplayer then.

You can also try xine - with the added benefit that kafeine and amarok (and more) use the xine-lib engine.

Well, i tried Mplayer and I couldn't get it to work. As with Jan, who had a bad experience with VLC and won't use it, I had a not so good experience with Mplayer and uninstalled it. I figured out why I was getting a hiss through my headphones and corrected the problem. When I played the DVD again in VLC it ran perfectly, well as perfectly as my ATI Rage 128 would let it be; but the hiss was gone and the audio sounded great. A video card with more memory would allow the video to be stable all the way through, but 32MB of on board RAM isn't enough to handle full motion video without the occasional video freeze. It seems to me that VLC chooses the proper codec for the media it plays, unlike Mplayer where you must choose the codec you want, and if it's not the correct one, well... I actually use VLC as a radio receiver. I have too many choices of radio stations from Shoutcast, but that's ok. VLC has been a tried and proven program on Windows and running the current version on opensuse Linux has proven not to be a disappointment as it has to other two users who have commented on what I thought was a great find. But I'm not interested in a multimedia program flame war. We all have our preferences and use what works for us. Some like Koffice and others like Open Office. Some like xine, others Mplayer and I have found that VLC meets my needs. I guess that's what it's all about. Windows or Linux (whatever flavor floats your boat). I appreciate the recommendation of xine though. Cheers, Dwain -- Dwain Alford P.O. Box 145 Winfield, Alabama 35594 telephone: 205.487.2570 cellphone: 205.495.5619 "The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Wassily Kandinsky, "Concerning The Spiritual In Art" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

El mar, 03-04-2007 a las 06:55 -0500, dwain escribió:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 04:50 -0500, dwain wrote:

Vlc is a very great multimedia player, maybe the best one. I can play all type of files, and it never complains at all. Xine engine is good, but not great; IMHO, gstreamer is better than xine. By the way... I'm losing links in Konqueror bookmarks again. I haven't said anything about it until today, but when I opened Konqueror to see what's new over there, I saw those links removed again. But that's a problem of mine, I know. So far I haven't found any rootkit at all, so... Is this a cotinuous hard disk failure or I like harming myself deleting and deleting some links in a unconscious way or with my eyes and ears closed? Cheers, Alejandro (Ortega) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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I appreciate the recommendation of xine though.

Welcome. We each have our preferred apps. :-) By the way, xine also finds the needed codec automatically, if it is in the system; if it is not, play fails without me knowing which is the codec I missed. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGEkyvtTMYHG2NR9URAtTrAJ9W+dZApFjmehZZjxymN3h+qwZUawCgmENd ADM6LAMvgzr+nzFXJiYuHAE= =a1GW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata wrote:

On 2007/04/03 03:03 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:

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You can have amtrax and kaffine and xmms. The best media player out there is vlc. I have it on my Windows box and now I have it for Linux; and I thought it was only for Windows. Encrypted DVDs, no problem. It's got all the codecs you need. I'm one happy newbie Linux user. Got my jazz radio going on and passing on some hopefully good information. If you want it Google, vlc project; the download and install instructions are all there.

I've been thoroughly displeased with Kaffeine, so upon seeing this thread I immediately installed vlc. 10.2/packman/guru installation seemed to go normally, but vlc refuses to do anything other than open, close, and switch the equalizer on and off. So I'm still looking for a Linux DVD player that isn't a POS.

I got my install from the download instructions at http://www.videolan.org/ They have the latest version 0.86.1a. To view your dvd select File/Open Disc. Make sure your dvd player is in the Customize box under Advanced Options and clik OK. The DVD should start shortly after that. Cheers, Dwain -- Dwain Alford P.O. Box 145 Winfield, Alabama 35594 telephone: 205.487.2570 cellphone: 205.495.5619 "The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Wassily Kandinsky, "Concerning The Spiritual In Art" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata wrote:

On 2007/04/03 07:45 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:

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Felix Miata wrote:

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vlc refuses to do anything other than open, close, and switch the equalizer on and off.

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To view your dvd select File/Open Disc. Make sure your dvd player is in the Customize box under Advanced Options and clik OK. The DVD should start shortly after that.

Did you read what I wrote?

Then I miss understood what you meant. What more did you expect? -- Dwain Alford P.O. Box 145 Winfield, Alabama 35594 telephone: 205.487.2570 cellphone: 205.495.5619 "The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Wassily Kandinsky, "Concerning The Spiritual In Art" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2007/04/03 08:36 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:

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Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2007/04/03 07:45 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:

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Felix Miata wrote:

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vlc refuses to do anything other than open, close, and switch the equalizer on and off.

To view your dvd select File/Open Disc. Make sure your dvd player is in the Customize box under Advanced Options and clik OK. The DVD should start shortly after that.

Did you read what I wrote?

Then I miss understood what you meant. What more did you expect?

Something about diagnosing why only two buttons do anything would have been nice. -- "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" 2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV

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the suse mplayer at packman should address the "missing font" issue, the error comes up on just about all standard installs. had that fixed once or twice by copying a font to the .mplayer home dir, i think, don't remember for sure. xine and Kaffeine and vlc and mplayer & co are all installed in my systems but still there are videos that require windoze for viewing... it must be a conspiracy to counter libdvdcss... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

El mar, 03-04-2007 a las 08:27 -0400, Felix Miata escribió:

On 2007/04/03 03:03 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:

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You can have amtrax and kaffine and xmms. The best media player out there is vlc. I have it on my Windows box and now I have it for Linux; and I thought it was only for Windows. Encrypted DVDs, no problem. It's got all the codecs you need. I'm one happy newbie Linux user. Got my jazz radio going on and passing on some hopefully good information. If you want it Google, vlc project; the download and install instructions are all there.

I've been thoroughly displeased with Kaffeine, so upon seeing this thread I immediately installed vlc. 10.2/packman/guru installation seemed to go normally, but vlc refuses to do anything other than open, close, and switch the equalizer on and off. So I'm still looking for a Linux DVD player that isn't a POS.

Have you tried 'smplayer'? Though based upon mplayer, it's a very good app for DVD. Guru's site. Alejandro. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Steve Jeppesen wrote:

I use both Totum and MPlayer to play dvd's with no problems at all.

MythTV's internal DVD player has gotten really good, too. It's not worth installing the whole Myth frontend just for playing DVDs, but if you've got it already you might want to try the mythdvd plugin. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org