Dear list members: I've been using SuSE 9.3 for a while and I find it solid. But there is a thing that is like horror and it is mounting media with/through HAL. First of all it even does not work well if installed in the default way (out of the box) without any additional .fdi files. Even for the same media-volume it often creates new entries in /media, like VOLUME_1, VOLUME_2 and leaves them there as trash. Once I had six floppy entries, from floppy to floppy_5. I would like to mount my pendrive as /media/pendrive instead of /media/FlashDisk. OK, there is a method to change hal's behavior to mount to static mount points. The description can be found at: http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2005/05/ dkukawka_hal_mountpoints.html Despite of that this seems like horror it even does not seem to work. For the cdrom/dvdrom I could set a static mount point using the description but for my pendrive I could not. I guess that part of the description is not correct or at least does not contain enough information. I searched for vendor.info and product.info values in lshal output - with my usb pendrive mounted and unmounted - but could not find out which one is that I need. Before inserting the pendrive I had 37 devices and after inserting had 43 devices (as lshal output). I had 5 more udi entries after mounting. But how do I know which one is the udi entry I have to get the info.product and info.vendor values from? Only two udi entry had both values and I tried both pairs but none of them worked. I saved the diff file of the two lshal output and can send it if needed. And another question: if the info.vendor and info.product is unique for every different USB pendrive brand then will the mountpoint change back to the hardcoded if I insert in another type of pendrive? (I wanted to get help from the author of the above article but could not find his email address.) I apologise for being so verbose but I spent a lot of time to fix this issue without any success. TIA, IG _______________________________________________________________________ [freemail] extra 1GB-os postafiókkal, Önnek már van? http://freemail.hu
Is it safe to uninstall hal, please? On Sunday 24 July 2005 16:03, Gabor Istvan wrote:
Dear list members:
I've been using SuSE 9.3 for a while and I find it solid. But there is a thing that is like horror and it is mounting media with/through HAL. First of all it even does not work well if installed in the default way (out of the box) without any additional .fdi files. Even for the same media-volume it often creates new entries in /media, like VOLUME_1, VOLUME_2 and leaves them there as trash. Once I had six floppy entries, from floppy to floppy_5.
I would like to mount my pendrive as /media/pendrive instead of /media/FlashDisk. OK, there is a method to change hal's behavior to mount to static mount points. The description can be found at: http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2005/05/ dkukawka_hal_mountpoints.html Despite of that this seems like horror it even does not seem to work. For the cdrom/dvdrom I could set a static mount point using the description but for my pendrive I could not. I guess that part of the description is not correct or at least does not contain enough information. I searched for vendor.info and product.info values in lshal output - with my usb pendrive mounted and unmounted - but could not find out which one is that I need. Before inserting the pendrive I had 37 devices and after inserting had 43 devices (as lshal output). I had 5 more udi entries after mounting. But how do I know which one is the udi entry I have to get the info.product and info.vendor values from? Only two udi entry had both values and I tried both pairs but none of them worked. I saved the diff file of the two lshal output and can send it if needed.
And another question: if the info.vendor and info.product is unique for every different USB pendrive brand then will the mountpoint change back to the hardcoded if I insert in another type of pendrive?
(I wanted to get help from the author of the above article but could not find his email address.)
I apologise for being so verbose but I spent a lot of time to fix this issue without any success.
TIA, IG
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On Sunday 24 July 2005 07:00 pm, Mitja wrote:
Is it safe to uninstall hal, please?
Why uninstall it? Just use Yast --> System Services to turn it off. (not start at boot)
On Sunday 24 July 2005 16:03, Gabor Istvan wrote:
Dear list members:
I've been using SuSE 9.3 for a while and I find it solid. But there is a thing that is like horror and it is mounting media with/through HAL. First of all it even does not work well if installed in the default way (out of the box) without any additional .fdi files. Even for the same media-volume it often creates new entries in /media, like VOLUME_1, VOLUME_2 and leaves them there as trash. Once I had six floppy entries, from floppy to floppy_5.
I would like to mount my pendrive as /media/pendrive instead of /media/FlashDisk. OK, there is a method to change hal's behavior to mount to static mount points. The description can be found at: http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2005/05/ dkukawka_hal_mountpoints.html Despite of that this seems like horror it even does not seem to work. For the cdrom/dvdrom I could set a static mount point using the description but for my pendrive I could not. I guess that part of the description is not correct or at least does not contain enough information. I searched for vendor.info and product.info values in lshal output - with my usb pendrive mounted and unmounted - but could not find out which one is that I need. Before inserting the pendrive I had 37 devices and after inserting had 43 devices (as lshal output). I had 5 more udi entries after mounting. But how do I know which one is the udi entry I have to get the info.product and info.vendor values from? Only two udi entry had both values and I tried both pairs but none of them worked. I saved the diff file of the two lshal output and can send it if needed.
And another question: if the info.vendor and info.product is unique for every different USB pendrive brand then will the mountpoint change back to the hardcoded if I insert in another type of pendrive?
(I wanted to get help from the author of the above article but could not find his email address.)
I apologise for being so verbose but I spent a lot of time to fix this issue without any success.
TIA, IG
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:07:46 -0400 Bruce Marshall <bmarsh@bmarsh.com> wrote:
Is it safe to uninstall hal, please?
Why uninstall it? Just use Yast --> System Services to turn it off. (not start at boot)
So then the question becomes: is it safe to turn it off? -- Richard Kimber http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/
On Monday 25 July 2005 05:22 am, R Kimber wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:07:46 -0400
Bruce Marshall <bmarsh@bmarsh.com> wrote:
Is it safe to uninstall hal, please?
Why uninstall it? Just use Yast --> System Services to turn it off. (not start at boot)
So then the question becomes: is it safe to turn it off?
It is safe. What will be affected I couldn't tell you. I've never been a big fan of automounting so I couldn't tell whether it is affected.
On Mon July 25 2005 9:42 am, Bruce Marshall wrote:
Why uninstall it? Just use Yast --> System Services to turn it off. (not start at boot)
So then the question becomes: is it safe to turn it off?
It is safe. What will be affected I couldn't tell you. I've never been a big fan of automounting so I couldn't tell whether it is affected.
well, I wasn't really following this until you mentioned automounting. I notice now ( SUSE 9.3 KDE 3.4.1) when I start up K3B it gives me a system configuration problem message. SAying Automount can cause problems with CD/DVD writing. But it says to disable the automounting entries in /etc/fstab. so is the best way to change /etc/fstab, or turn off Hald ? here is what I changed in fstab: from: /dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder subfs fs=cdfss,unhide,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 to: dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder subfs noauto,fs=cdfss,unhide,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 will that work, and will it affect playing audio CD's?? if it doesn't automount, how do you tell the system you have inserted a (whatever-type you use) CD? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 X-Request-PGP: http://home.comcast.net/~p.cartwright/wsb/key.asc
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2005-07-24 at 18:00 -0500, Mitja wrote:
Is it safe to uninstall hal, please?
Perhaps it is better to dissable a device from automounting. That is known how to do it. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFC5C3QtTMYHG2NR9URAlE7AJwIZJU8pe+7FejE5Pw7Ukmr1h0lJgCfQ6Sn 1ES9dxN1rx3WKcmUO/HkXak= =rsKq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2005-07-25 at 12:53 +0200, Gabor Istvan wrote:
Disabling hal will not hurt automounting?
Of course it will. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFC5MrntTMYHG2NR9URApvcAKCJ2i4B61zlHQN8JOMVGVZPrmj9hwCdEbvF xkbhjOH+era3GvWgqOic0Rg= =sLaO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Monday 25 July 2005 06:19, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2005-07-25 at 12:53 +0200, Gabor Istvan wrote:
Disabling hal will not hurt automounting?
Of course it will.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Automounting stop working (IMO is not "a big deal" to mount whatever you need it)l Musics CD work (XMMS-CD, KsCD) System is faster. On my system i don't have a problem Mitja
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 04:19, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Monday 2005-07-25 at 12:53 +0200, Gabor Istvan wrote:
Disabling hal will not hurt automounting?
Of course it will.
So its a pain since 9.1. I don't mind auto mounting USB devices like the IOMEGA I borrowed. But for the rest leave it up to me to manually mount. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/
Mitja wrote:
On Monday 25 July 2005 05:53, Gabor Istvan wrote:
Disabling hal will not hurt automounting? IG
Yes, automounting doesn't work but IMO computer is faster now.
Automount needs /etc/auto.master and /etc/auto.misc setting up, then "chkconfig autofs on" and "rcautofs start". "ls /media/dvd" or whatever devices you setup will then be mounted and displayed. # o /etc/auto.master # # $Id: auto.master,v 1.3 2003/09/29 08:22:35 raven Exp $ # # Sample auto.master file # This is an automounter map and it has the following format # key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location # For details of the format look at autofs(5). /media /etc/auto.misc #o /etc/auto.misc # $Id: auto.misc,v 1.1 2001/04/17 11:43:02 arvin Exp arvin $ # This is an automounter map and it has the following format # key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location # Details may be found in the autofs(5) manpage cdrom -fstype=auto,ro :/dev/cdrom dvd -fstype=auto,ro :/dev/dvd Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2005-07-26 at 01:15 +0100, Sid Boyce wrote:
Automount needs /etc/auto.master and /etc/auto.misc setting up, then "chkconfig autofs on" and "rcautofs start". "ls /media/dvd" or whatever devices you setup will then be mounted and displayed.
Er... not in SuSE 9.3, or not exactly. That's the old system, not the new. In my system, autofs is stopped, but nevertheless, automounting works, because it depends on hald. For the same reason, entries in /etc/fstab do not work. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFC6uuetTMYHG2NR9URArLFAJsF7i5lfCG6+SrX2kStC9MAX6oJKwCeOfrB jlORHt7xscHnVXUP+r20TLw= =sKwp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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