[opensuse] Installation problems
"Houston we have a problem!" - I downloaded the ISO for the i586 version of Tumbleweed and the installation failed due to missing image files. I checked the installation DVD and sure enough, the image files were all labeled for x64 versions. Why? That obviously was not what the image installation scripts were looking for since I got a complaint, loud and clear, that the image files it was looking for were not to be found on the DVD! Why isn't there an i586 version of Leap 42.1? All I get when following the links for installing Leap is for x64 versions and I need to download an OpenSuSE OS for an older system with x32 bit architecture? Why are there no links from the main openSuSE home page for finding and downloading earlier versions of OpenSuSE? 13.2, 13.1 etc? I had to spend quite a bit of time searching the internet before locating the repositories! Shouldn't this be easier for users to discover? OpenSuSE used to give out links to older releases from their main download web pages, why has this practice been discontinued? I encountered a display problem during the installation process which resulted in my screen becoming garbage and unreadable. After many hours of Google searches I discovered that there is a magic option - nomodeset which prevents the installation scripts from trying to reset the video card display settings. Why isn't this option presented as one of the kernel (or perhaps as some other) option that can be set from the installation setup screen by simply checking it? Having such hidden parameters makes it very difficult for users to find a solution to their installation problems, or even to simply to remember that such parameters exist! GUI's should act as a guide to help users find a solution to problems, not create them! IMHO of course.... Marc.... -- "The Truth is out there" - Spooky -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
"Houston we have a problem!" - I downloaded the ISO for the i586 version of Tumbleweed and the installation failed due to missing image files. I checked the installation DVD and sure enough, the image files were all labeled for x64 versions. Why? That obviously was not what the image installation scripts were looking for since I got a complaint, loud and clear, that the image files it was looking for were not to be found on the DVD!
Why isn't there an i586 version of Leap 42.1?
It was decided that a 32bit version wasn't needed. There was a half-baked initiative to create a 32bit version, but it never really got off the ground.
All I get when following the links for installing Leap is for x64 versions and I need to download an OpenSuSE OS for an older system with x32 bit architecture?
I would recommend openSUSE 13.2 plus updates.
Why are there no links from the main openSuSE home page for finding and downloading earlier versions of OpenSuSE? 13.2, 13.1 etc? I had to spend quite a bit of time searching the internet before locating the repositories!
I don't know about the links from the home page, but the download location hasn't changed: http://download.opensuse.org
I encountered a display problem during the installation process which resulted in my screen becoming garbage and unreadable. After many hours of Google searches I discovered that there is a magic option - nomodeset which prevents the installation scripts from trying to reset the video card display settings. Why isn't this option presented as one of the kernel (or perhaps as some other) option that can be set from the installation setup screen by simply checking it?
I have not installed from ISO for such a long time, but doesn't it have a fail-safe option anymore? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.2°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/16/2015 02:16 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
"Houston we have a problem!" - I downloaded the ISO for the i586 version of Tumbleweed and the installation failed due to missing image files. I checked the installation DVD and sure enough, the image files were all labeled for x64 versions. Why? That obviously was not what the image installation scripts were looking for since I got a complaint, loud and clear, that the image files it was looking for were not to be found on the DVD!
Why isn't there an i586 version of Leap 42.1?
It was decided that a 32bit version wasn't needed. There was a half-baked initiative to create a 32bit version, but it never really got off the ground.
All I get when following the links for installing Leap is for x64 versions and I need to download an OpenSuSE OS for an older system with x32 bit architecture?
I would recommend openSUSE 13.2 plus updates.
With 13.1 going Evergreen (long term security updates) wouldn't that be a better choice? -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 11/16/2015 02:16 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
"Houston we have a problem!" - I downloaded the ISO for the i586 version of Tumbleweed and the installation failed due to missing image files. I checked the installation DVD and sure enough, the image files were all labeled for x64 versions. Why? That obviously was not what the image installation scripts were looking for since I got a complaint, loud and clear, that the image files it was looking for were not to be found on the DVD!
Why isn't there an i586 version of Leap 42.1?
It was decided that a 32bit version wasn't needed. There was a half-baked initiative to create a 32bit version, but it never really got off the ground.
All I get when following the links for installing Leap is for x64 versions and I need to download an OpenSuSE OS for an older system with x32 bit architecture?
I would recommend openSUSE 13.2 plus updates.
With 13.1 going Evergreen (long term security updates) wouldn't that be a better choice?
Yes, you're right, 13.1 is probably the better choice. For all new installations, I use 13.2 myself, but I'm not overly concerned about updates. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 16 November 2015 at 14:36, Ken Schneider - openSUSE <suse-list3@bout-tyme.net> wrote:
On 11/16/2015 02:16 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
"Houston we have a problem!" - I downloaded the ISO for the i586 version of Tumbleweed and the installation failed due to missing image files. I checked the installation DVD and sure enough, the image files were all labeled for x64 versions. Why? That obviously was not what the image installation scripts were looking for since I got a complaint, loud and clear, that the image files it was looking for were not to be found on the DVD!
Why isn't there an i586 version of Leap 42.1?
It was decided that a 32bit version wasn't needed. There was a half-baked initiative to create a 32bit version, but it never really got off the ground.
All I get when following the links for installing Leap is for x64 versions and I need to download an OpenSuSE OS for an older system with x32 bit architecture?
I would recommend openSUSE 13.2 plus updates.
With 13.1 going Evergreen (long term security updates) wouldn't that be a better choice?
Evergreen 13.1's expected end of life is November 2016 13.2's expected end of life is Jan 2017 assuming a November 2016 release date for Leap 42.2. However, as the dates for Leap 42.2 are not yet set, maybe it's best to think in terms of a range - I expect 13.2's end of life to be at some point between November 2016 and Feburary 2017 Whatever 13.2's EoL date is, it looks to me that 13.2 would be the better choice for someone who wants a 32-bit installation of openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Richard, On this list it is expected to keep ALL replies to the list ONLY unless the OP has asked for a PM. And just because you use gmail is NO excuse for NOT editing the To: or Cc: recipients to keep the reply ON LIST only. https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette#Personal_and_mail_l... On 11/16/2015 08:52 AM, Richard Brown wrote:
On 16 November 2015 at 14:36, Ken Schneider - openSUSE <suse-list3@bout-tyme.net> wrote:
On 11/16/2015 02:16 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
"Houston we have a problem!" - I downloaded the ISO for the i586 version of Tumbleweed and the installation failed due to missing image files. I checked the installation DVD and sure enough, the image files were all labeled for x64 versions. Why? That obviously was not what the image installation scripts were looking for since I got a complaint, loud and clear, that the image files it was looking for were not to be found on the DVD!
Why isn't there an i586 version of Leap 42.1?
It was decided that a 32bit version wasn't needed. There was a half-baked initiative to create a 32bit version, but it never really got off the ground.
All I get when following the links for installing Leap is for x64 versions and I need to download an OpenSuSE OS for an older system with x32 bit architecture?
I would recommend openSUSE 13.2 plus updates.
With 13.1 going Evergreen (long term security updates) wouldn't that be a better choice?
Evergreen 13.1's expected end of life is November 2016
13.2's expected end of life is Jan 2017 assuming a November 2016 release date for Leap 42.2.
However, as the dates for Leap 42.2 are not yet set, maybe it's best to think in terms of a range - I expect 13.2's end of life to be at some point between November 2016 and Feburary 2017
Whatever 13.2's EoL date is, it looks to me that 13.2 would be the better choice for someone who wants a 32-bit installation of openSUSE
-- Ken linux since 1994 S.u.S.E./openSUSE since 1996 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 16/11/15 09:58, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
"Houston we have a problem!" - I downloaded the ISO for the i586 version of Tumbleweed and the installation failed due to missing image files. I checked the installation DVD and sure enough, the image files were all labeled for x64 versions. Why? That obviously was not what the image installation scripts were looking for since I got a complaint, loud and clear, that the image files it was looking for were not to be found on the DVD!
Why isn't there an i586 version of Leap 42.1? All I get when following the links for installing Leap is for x64 versions and I need to download an OpenSuSE OS for an older system with x32 bit architecture?
Why are there no links from the main openSuSE home page for finding and downloading earlier versions of OpenSuSE? 13.2, 13.1 etc? I had to spend quite a bit of time searching the internet before locating the repositories! Shouldn't this be easier for users to discover? OpenSuSE used to give out links to older releases from their main download web pages, why has this practice been discontinued?
I encountered a display problem during the installation process which resulted in my screen becoming garbage and unreadable. After many hours of Google searches I discovered that there is a magic option - nomodeset which prevents the installation scripts from trying to reset the video card display settings. Why isn't this option presented as one of the kernel (or perhaps as some other) option that can be set from the installation setup screen by simply checking it? Having such hidden parameters makes it very difficult for users to find a solution to their installation problems, or even to simply to remember that such parameters exist! GUI's should act as a guide to help users find a solution to problems, not create them! IMHO of course....
Marc....
Years ago, during the time of the BBSs and the 300bps modems, my mentor made a comment: "If nobody is talking and complaining about a program then it is not a well known program; but on the other hand if there are too many comments about the program then it means that there are many problems with it". :-) BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.3.0-4 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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