Help with Audio CD recognition under SuSE 9.1 Pro
I can not get a Audio CD to play under SuSE 9.1 Pro. The players recognize the CD and show that it is playing but nothing sounds. I also can see the tracks in K3B but I can not copy them into a project. I know that the sound card is set up correct because all other sounds play. I do believe this worked under 9.0. Can anyone help me understand what is going on? Thanks john
In a previous message, "John N. Alegre"
I can not get a Audio CD to play under SuSE 9.1 Pro.[snip] I know that the sound card is set up correct because all other sounds play.
Audio CDs play by a different route to all other sounds on your PC. The sound is piped directly from the drive to the card without passing through the CPU. So, you need to have this audio cable in pace. Indeed, even this might not be enough - my system is set up properly but I cannot play CDs directly.
I do believe this worked under 9.0.
Are you sure? If so, perhaps something's come loose inside the case. Alternatively, there are CD players that will stream the music off the CD through the system and play that streamed music (rather than playing the audio CD directly). However, I'm not sure which players will do this - I have simply ripped all my CDs onto my hard disc :-) John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards
John Pettigrew wrote:
In a previous message, "John N. Alegre"
wrote: I can not get a Audio CD to play under SuSE 9.1 Pro.[snip] I know that the sound card is set up correct because all other sounds play.
Audio CDs play by a different route to all other sounds on your PC. The sound is piped directly from the drive to the card without passing through the CPU. So, you need to have this audio cable in pace.
Kaffeine and newer Kscd will play through digital extraction, and thus will work without the audio cable.
Indeed, even this might not be enough - my system is set up properly but I cannot play CDs directly.
Perhaps a mixer control.
Alternatively, there are CD players that will stream the music off the CD through the system and play that streamed music (rather than playing the audio CD directly). However, I'm not sure which players will do this - I have simply ripped all my CDs onto my hard disc :-)
amoroK might also, I have never tried. I once used Kaffeine for a laptop since there was no way to add the audio cd cable. When I bought my new amd64 system, it also came without an audio cd cable. I was very happy when kscd supported digital playback, so that now also works quite well. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
John P., John A., On Friday 03 December 2004 08:39, John Pettigrew wrote:
In a previous message, "John N. Alegre"
wrote: I can not get a Audio CD to play under SuSE 9.1 Pro.[snip] I know that the sound card is set up correct because all other sounds play.
Audio CDs play by a different route to all other sounds on your PC. The sound is piped directly from the drive to the card without passing through the CPU. So, you need to have this audio cable in pace.
That's not entirely true. Most newer CD drives support Digital Audio Extraction (DAE -- what's required for ripping) and hence can play through the system's digital audio circuitry, which does, of course, involve some CPU involvement, though often not a lot, since 16-bit, linear PCM at 44.1 Kilosamples per second (a.k.a. CDDA -- Compact Disc Digital Audio) is a pretty digital audio format that is widely supported by desktop audio hardware. It seems the defaults have been switching from analog audio as you describe it, direct from player to audio card, to digital, processor-mediated playback.
Indeed, even this might not be enough - my system is set up properly but I cannot play CDs directly.
I do believe this worked under 9.0.
Are you sure? If so, perhaps something's come loose inside the case.
Alternatively, there are CD players that will stream the music off the CD through the system and play that streamed music (rather than playing the audio CD directly). However, I'm not sure which players will do this - I have simply ripped all my CDs onto my hard disc :-)
As I mentioned above, if you can rip from a given drive, then you can perform digital playback. Some (most? all?) playback software offers the option to choose either digital or analog playback.
John
Randall Schulz
I guess I would ask someone to elaborate. What software / steps do I need to copy a audio CD in lossless format on SuSE. I would hope this would be with the files not being ripped onto the HD. Thanks On Friday 03 December 2004 11:11, Randall R Schulz wrote:
John P., John A.,
On Friday 03 December 2004 08:39, John Pettigrew wrote:
In a previous message, "John N. Alegre"
wrote: I can not get a Audio CD to play under SuSE 9.1 Pro.[snip] I know that the sound card is set up correct because all other sounds play.
Audio CDs play by a different route to all other sounds on your PC. The sound is piped directly from the drive to the card without passing through the CPU. So, you need to have this audio cable in pace.
That's not entirely true. Most newer CD drives support Digital Audio Extraction (DAE -- what's required for ripping) and hence can play through the system's digital audio circuitry, which does, of course, involve some CPU involvement, though often not a lot, since 16-bit, linear PCM at 44.1 Kilosamples per second (a.k.a. CDDA -- Compact Disc Digital Audio) is a pretty digital audio format that is widely supported by desktop audio hardware.
It seems the defaults have been switching from analog audio as you describe it, direct from player to audio card, to digital, processor-mediated playback.
Indeed, even this might not be enough - my system is set up properly but I cannot play CDs directly.
I do believe this worked under 9.0.
Are you sure? If so, perhaps something's come loose inside the case.
Alternatively, there are CD players that will stream the music off the CD through the system and play that streamed music (rather than playing the audio CD directly). However, I'm not sure which players will do this - I have simply ripped all my CDs onto my hard disc :-)
As I mentioned above, if you can rip from a given drive, then you can perform digital playback.
Some (most? all?) playback software offers the option to choose either digital or analog playback.
John
Randall Schulz
John N. Alegre wrote:
I guess I would ask someone to elaborate. What software / steps do I need to copy a audio CD
By copy do you mean burn to a different CD (r-rw)?
in lossless format on SuSE.
By lossless do you mean no gap between tracks?
I would hope this would be with the files not being ripped onto the HD.
Unless the original is like what you want (lossless) and you are meaning to burn an audio cd, it will more than likely mean making temp files on your HD. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
John, On Saturday 04 December 2004 06:34, John N. Alegre wrote:
I guess I would ask someone to elaborate. What software / steps do I need to copy a audio CD in lossless format on SuSE. I would hope this would be with the files not being ripped onto the HD.
Well, if you have two CD drives (at least one of which is a recorder), you can duplicate discs without making intermediate copies on a hard drive, but obviously if you have only one drive, then the data must be copied to hard disk and thence to the duplicate CD. K3b has commands to do just this (Tools -> CD -> Copy CD...)
Thanks
Randall Schulz
On Saturday 04 December 2004 10:03, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Well, if you have two CD drives (at least one of which is a recorder), you can duplicate discs without making intermediate copies on a hard drive, but obviously if you have only one drive, then the data must be copied to hard disk and thence to the duplicate CD.
K3b has commands to do just this (Tools -> CD -> Copy CD...)
OK, I got the second CD to work on strait CD Copy. The issue there was permissions and /dev/hdd. K3b sees both drives and will copy a CD from the read only drive to the writeable drive, great. What still does not work is putting a audio CD in the second read only drive and creating a new audio CD project and dragging WAV files from the CD to the project. Actually I can not drag to the project even if the CD is in the read write drive. At this point I have to rip to the hard disk and then burn. This can't be right. What am I missing ?? Thanks to all who are helping. john
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