[opensuse] External Drive Formatting Question
What would y'all suggest here? I just bought a new Maxtor 300 GB (though that's their measure as if 1GB = 1M bytes) and external usb drive enclosure. I plan to use this to back up data on both my *nix systems and a Win2K system. What do you suggest for formatting? -- k -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
What would y'all suggest here?
I just bought a new Maxtor 300 GB (though that's their measure as if 1GB = 1M bytes) and external usb drive enclosure.
I plan to use this to back up data on both my *nix systems and a Win2K system.
What do you suggest for formatting?
How are you planning on doing the backup? If some pcontainer files, such as tar or disk image, it really doesn't matter. If you just copy over the files, intending to preserve permissions and such, there's AFAIK, no format type that will suffice for both. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
What would y'all suggest here?
I just bought a new Maxtor 300 GB (though that's their measure as if 1GB = 1M bytes) and external usb drive enclosure.
I plan to use this to back up data on both my *nix systems and a Win2K system.
What do you suggest for formatting?
I have two partitions, one with ext3 and the other for ntfs if the ext3 XP driver works for w2k, it can be a good choice jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Votez pour nous, merci - vote for us, thanks :-) http://musique.sfrjeunestalents.fr/artiste/Magic-Alliance/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday, January 20, 2007 @ 3:11 PM, jdd wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
What would y'all suggest here?
I just bought a new Maxtor 300 GB (though that's their measure as if 1GB = 1M bytes) and external usb drive enclosure.
I plan to use this to back up data on both my *nix systems and a Win2K system.
What do you suggest for formatting?
I have two partitions, one with ext3 and the other for ntfs
if the ext3 XP driver works for w2k, it can be a good choice jdd I have an almost identical situation. I use a single hard drive to back up both Windows and Linux. What I did was format 1/2 of the drive as NTFS and the other half as EXT2 (using partition magic, but you could do it within Linux). When I mount it to Windows, it simply ignores the EXT2 partiton. On Linux, I can see both but I only work with the EXT2 partition doing backups (and I put a few other odds and ends on there also).
Greg Wallace -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 20 January 2007 15:42, Kai Ponte wrote:
What would y'all suggest here?
I just bought a new Maxtor 300 GB (though that's their measure as if 1GB = 1M bytes) and external usb drive enclosure.
I plan to use this to back up data on both my *nix systems and a Win2K system.
What do you suggest for formatting?
Here's what I do: 1) For linux files, I make a partition on another linux machine that will be an exact copy of the identical partition on my main machine. For example, / <main> gets copied to /root-b on the backup machine. And I do that in both directions if I want to backup the other machine as well. 2) For Windows machines (I have several here including a laptop), I use Acronis TrueImage to make an EXACT backup of the Windows partitions (compressed). That backup file (1 file can contain 1 or more partitions) e gets copied to a partition on the backup machine.... as a linux file. All of the Windows information is in that file and an EXACT restore is possible. This has saved my bacon from having to rebuild an XP machine many times. I sleep well at night with TrueImage. TrueImage will also let you pull a file or a folder out of that backup file, so it is NOT an all or nothing restore solution. And.... it will also create its image files over a network so you can write the file directly to your linux backup area. This came in very handy when I wanted to replace a laptop HD. Create the image file, swap drives, do the restore. No sweat. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 20 January 2007 11:42, Kai Ponte wrote:
I plan to use this to back up data on both my *nix systems and a Win2K system.
What do you suggest for formatting?
Are you asking about tools or structure or what? Tools: Yast works fine Structure: you need fat32/vfat in order to read/write from both linus/windows You can use multiple partitions if you want/must keep the data separate. I use one of these to backup my system. I use BRU to create compressed archives on the drive. Pretty fast that way. Note: There is FUSE ntfs support that allows read/write from linux but it is experimental. I can't think of a better place to experiment than a external drive. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Saturday 20 January 2007 17:17, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 20 January 2007 11:42, Kai Ponte wrote:
I plan to use this to back up data on both my *nix systems and a Win2K system.
What do you suggest for formatting?
Are you asking about tools or structure or what?
Tools: Yast works fine
Structure: you need fat32/vfat in order to read/write from both linus/windows You can use multiple partitions if you want/must keep the data separate.
Thanks, everyone!! I needed structure. I have one 300GB drive in an enclosure that I've been using the past year. Unfortunately, I formatted it Reiser, and it is a pain to load, use and is almost useless on my Win2K/XP machines, because I have to load this reiser2nfts utility. I didn't think Fat32 was able to handle drives bigger than 2GB, so I figured that was out of the question. I'll research futher. Maybe I can split it 150 ext2 and 150 fat32. Thanks again!!! -- kai - theperfectreign@yahoo.com www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com wo ist der ort für den ehrlichsten kuss ich weiss, dass ich ihn für uns finden muss... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
I didn't think Fat32 was able to handle drives bigger than 2GB
files and the limit is 4gb, AFAIK, this is a problem if you make a backup in one big tar file
Maybe I can split it 150 ext2 and 150 fat32.
for linux, prefere ext3 jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Votez pour nous, merci - vote for us, thanks :-) http://musique.sfrjeunestalents.fr/artiste/Magic-Alliance/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd wrote: ...snip...
for linux, prefere ext3
Slight hijack. Why? When I started using SUSE it defaulted, I think, to reiserfs. I've been using that ever since. Just installed it on two 360GB USB drives. Any reason to change while I still have the space to do so? -ds
jdd
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Dennis E. Slice wrote:
jdd wrote: ...snip...
for linux, prefere ext3
Slight hijack.
Why? When I started using SUSE it defaulted, I think, to reiserfs. I've been using that ever since. Just installed it on two 360GB USB drives. Any reason to change while I still have the space to do so? -ds
jdd
the messages said "ext2". ext3 is better, this is all what I said jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Votez pour nous, merci - vote for us, thanks :-) http://musique.sfrjeunestalents.fr/artiste/Magic-Alliance/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 21 January 2007 11:12, Dennis E. Slice wrote:
jdd wrote: ...snip...
for linux, prefere ext3
Slight hijack.
Why? When I started using SUSE it defaulted, I think, to reiserfs. I've been using that ever since. Just installed it on two 360GB USB drives. Any reason to change while I still have the space to do so? -ds
Though I haven't tried ext2/3 on my primary drives, I'm going to use it/them on my USB drive. I found the read performance extremely slow using reiser - so much that it is a pain to use, and I can't wait to retire that drive for archive. I have no issues transfering files, but reading it always takes forever. Dunno. -- k -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-01-21 at 14:12 -0500, Dennis E. Slice wrote:
jdd wrote: ...snip...
for linux, prefere ext3
Slight hijack.
Why? When I started using SUSE it defaulted, I think, to reiserfs. I've been using that ever since. Just installed it on two 360GB USB drives. Any reason to change while I still have the space to do so? -ds
In this case, for an external drive to be used for backup, ext3 is better as it can be used from windows easily. It is also easier to repair. If you have your normal internal partitions using reiserfs, that's fine. There is no reason to change. If you search this list archive you will see probably hundreds of emails discussing this very question. For external... I'm not so sure. What happens in case of accidental unplugging while writing, will it be repairable? Maybe it works perfect, maybe not: I simply do not know either way. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFs887tTMYHG2NR9URAlg8AKCA17Qx0nUEuLqodcnWYuK8EMCfzQCdGXiO LlF7N/oQz2yeG62C9CYIGvk= =tCNV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 1/20/07, Kai Ponte
What would y'all suggest here?
I just bought a new Maxtor 300 GB (though that's their measure as if 1GB = 1M bytes) and external usb drive enclosure.
Kai, More and more 1GB = 1000 * 1000 * 1000 1GiB = 1024 * 1024 * 1024 Several Gov't standards groups (including NIST in the US) have adopted the above. Obviously Disk Drive manufacturers have always used the above convention for GB. Some Linux Userland tools have been making the switch for the last couple years and now report GiB statistics. Not very many, but a few. Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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