[opensuse] Fans on Full Speed or not at all (Leap 42.2 Fresh install)
Oldish (ok, ancient) laptop, Dell Insperion 9400 with new install onto SSD. Since the update of last Monday, fans come on full speed even at low-ish temps of 34C. Fans are either full speed or none at all. When I first installed 42.2 I don't remember this being this way. My fans have several intermediate speeds. What changed, and how can I get back to stepped and managed fan speeds? What package controls this these days? -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/28/2016 04:22 PM, John Andersen wrote:
Oldish (ok, ancient) laptop, Dell Insperion 9400 with new install onto SSD.
Since the update of last Monday, fans come on full speed even at low-ish temps of 34C. Fans are either full speed or none at all.
When I first installed 42.2 I don't remember this being this way. My fans have several intermediate speeds.
What changed, and how can I get back to stepped and managed fan speeds? What package controls this these days?
Just a 'guess', but I see a 'tpm' (thermal protection monitor) error on boot (it's just the normal error before the 'no tpm chip' found determination). I don't know what does the fallback thermal control (I thought that would be hardware/BIOS specific). I'm interested in the others responses here. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/28/2016 04:23 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 12/28/2016 04:22 PM, John Andersen wrote:
Oldish (ok, ancient) laptop, Dell Insperion 9400 with new install onto SSD.
Since the update of last Monday, fans come on full speed even at low-ish temps of 34C. Fans are either full speed or none at all.
When I first installed 42.2 I don't remember this being this way. My fans have several intermediate speeds.
What changed, and how can I get back to stepped and managed fan speeds? What package controls this these days?
Just a 'guess', but I see a 'tpm' (thermal protection monitor) error on boot (it's just the normal error before the 'no tpm chip' found determination). I don't know what does the fallback thermal control (I thought that would be hardware/BIOS specific). I'm interested in the others responses here.
I don't see that error. But I did step back to 4.4.36.5 and it seems to be holding temperature to 38c to 42c. Whereas 4.4.36.8 was either on full or off, which did cause temp excursions up to 72. This can actually be dangerously high, and the fan showed no sign of coming on. The actual fan model loaded is embedded in the typial opensuse 13 levels of indirection in /sys/devices/ somethingp-generic- nothing to do with a Dell. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/28/2016 08:46 PM, John Andersen wrote:
The actual fan model loaded is embedded in the typial opensuse 13 levels of indirection in /sys/devices/ somethingp-generic- nothing to do with a Dell.
I feel your laptop pain. On this whacky HP, I had to remove the nvidia drivers and revert to nouveau to regain backlight control. I'll have to pull the sources for nvidiabl and nvidia_bl and see if I can get them to build under SuSE so I will have an interface in sysfs through /sys/class/backlight to my Quadro 3000M. It seems like there should be standard interfaces for all of these pieces of hardware (fans, backlight, etc..) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/28/2016 04:23 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 12/28/2016 04:22 PM, John Andersen wrote:
Oldish (ok, ancient) laptop, Dell Insperion 9400 with new install onto SSD.
Since the update of last Monday, fans come on full speed even at low-ish temps of 34C. Fans are either full speed or none at all.
When I first installed 42.2 I don't remember this being this way. My fans have several intermediate speeds.
What changed, and how can I get back to stepped and managed fan speeds? What package controls this these days? Just a 'guess', but I see a 'tpm' (thermal protection monitor) error on boot (it's just the normal error before the 'no tpm chip' found determination). I don't know what does the fallback thermal control (I thought that would be hardware/BIOS specific). I'm interested in the others responses here.
"TPM" usually refers to the "Trusted Platform Module", which incorporates cryptographic keys in devices to allow secure booting. Regarding fans, my experience has been that the nouveau drivers don't control fans on Nvidia graphics adapters very well. Could this be a graphics driver issue? The binary drivers from Nvidia usually work for me. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On December 28, 2016 8:47:27 PM PST, Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> wrote:
On 12/28/2016 04:23 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 12/28/2016 04:22 PM, John Andersen wrote:
Oldish (ok, ancient) laptop, Dell Insperion 9400 with new install onto SSD.
Since the update of last Monday, fans come on full speed even at low-ish temps of 34C. Fans are either full speed or none at all.
When I first installed 42.2 I don't remember this being this way. My fans have several intermediate speeds.
What changed, and how can I get back to stepped and managed fan speeds? What package controls this these days? Just a 'guess', but I see a 'tpm' (thermal protection monitor) error on boot (it's just the normal error before the 'no tpm chip' found determination). I don't know what does the fallback thermal control (I thought that would be hardware/BIOS specific). I'm interested in the others responses here.
"TPM" usually refers to the "Trusted Platform Module", which incorporates cryptographic keys in devices to allow secure booting.
Regarding fans, my experience has been that the nouveau drivers don't control fans on Nvidia graphics adapters very well. Could this be a graphics driver issue? The binary drivers from Nvidia usually work for me.
Regards, Lew
Old laptop. No secure boot, and it has Radeon Mobility X1400 using community drivers. The immediately prior Kerbal seemed to work . -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28.12.2016 23:22, John Andersen wrote:
Oldish (ok, ancient) laptop, Dell Insperion 9400 with new install onto SSD.
Since the update of last Monday, fans come on full speed even at low-ish temps of 34C. Fans are either full speed or none at all.
When I first installed 42.2 I don't remember this being this way. My fans have several intermediate speeds.
What changed, and how can I get back to stepped and managed fan speeds? What package controls this these days?
Try to install the "sensors" package. Probably this fixes the problem. If not, try to run pwmconfig as root. This tries to find out, which fans cool down which sensors. Then it writes a config for fancontrol. fancontrol is a daemon that reacts on sensors and controls fan speed.
participants (4)
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David C. Rankin
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Florian Gleixner
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John Andersen
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Lew Wolfgang