On 12/10/2013 2:52 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Marcus Meissner [12-10-13 16:54]:

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I just received word from Stefan Dirsch that the NVIDIA drivers for 13.1 are now online .

ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/13.1/

Thanks, is it possible to include a Tumbleweed repo?

Does Nvidia allow that? The link points directly to THEIR servers, not opensuse's. Depends on which version your tumbleweed is based, they have versions for 12.1 thru 13.1 on that site. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/10/2013 07:02 PM, Patrick Shanahan pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

* John Andersen [12-10-13 17:58]:

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On 12/10/2013 2:52 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Marcus Meissner [12-10-13 16:54]:

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I just received word from Stefan Dirsch that the NVIDIA drivers for 13.1 are now online .

ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/13.1/

Thanks, is it possible to include a Tumbleweed repo?

Does Nvidia allow that? The link points directly to THEIR servers, not opensuse's.

Depends on which version your tumbleweed is based, they have versions for 12.1 thru 13.1 on that site.

I don't know that nvidia does anything but host the packages. I can't see that versioning would maky any difference.

The developer that makes the call is a kernel dev so no, don't count on it as the Nvidia driver has closed source in it. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Werner Flamme [12-11-13 09:25]:

Patrick Shanahan [10.12.2013 23:52]:

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* Marcus Meissner [12-10-13 16:54]:

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I just received word from Stefan Dirsch that the NVIDIA drivers for 13.1 are now online .

ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/13.1/

Thanks, is it possible to include a Tumbleweed repo?

Why? Tumbleweed explicitely states on http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed in the "Special Concerns" section: "If you have 3rd party kernel modules, Greg KH (the primary Tumbleweed maintainer) STRONGLY suggests that you not use Tumbleweed. Seriously, it's not worth the pain and extra work, unless you _really_ want to do it."

I do not expect to change his position, especially when there is closed source involved as it is the case here.

So I use Tumbleweed only on my laptops, which have Intel graphics, but my workstations always run on "pure" versions (including dozens of separate repos like network:samba:STABLE).

I have a server that I just (due to a major crash) migrated/new-install to 13.1, but do not believe Tumbleweed is right for a server. My other boxes all run Tumbleweed w/o any _major_ problems, but they all utilize the "easy install" of appropriate nvidia drivers" and have not incurred any problems that I can relate to Tumbleweed. But I do add other than "pure" repos for testing and/or production work where the "pure" repos do not include what I deem *necessary*. I cannot say that I have ever expierenced downtime from this mixture and I began with 11.2. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2013-12-18 16:41 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:

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Tumbleweed explicitely states on http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed in the "Special Concerns" section: "If you have 3rd party kernel modules, Greg KH (the primary Tumbleweed maintainer) STRONGLY suggests that you not use Tumbleweed. Seriously, it's not worth the pain and extra work, unless you _really_ want to do it."

What is it in TW which has an affinity with Intel?

Is it not obvious that '..."Special Concerns" section: "If you have 3rd party kernel modules...' is alluding to $SUBJECT? There is no special affinity for Intel. It's simply that Intel drivers are FOSS. There are no proprietary modules for Intel video, unlike NVidia. Those who can't be content with Intel, Nouveau, ATI, MGA or other FOSS drivers are STRONGLY advised to avoid Tumbleweed. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2013-12-11 11:43, Dylan wrote:

On 10/12/13 21:54, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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Hi,

I just received word from Stefan Dirsch that the NVIDIA drivers for 13.1 are now online .

Excellent, but... can we expect such a delay again when there is a kernel update requiring a newly compiled module?

I don't think Tumbleweed can be included. If it takes such a long time to prepare the rpms and have then published, it would be impossible to keep pace with Tumbleweed. But you can use other repos that use DKMS instead of hosting the driver on the server. The driver is rebuilt automatically on your computer each time there is a kernel change. It should work as long as the driver builds. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Dylan wrote:

On 10/12/13 21:54, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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Hi,

I just received word from Stefan Dirsch that the NVIDIA drivers for 13.1 are now online .

ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/13.1/

And today they have gone again... Anyone would think nvidia didn't want customers...

If you can, just build them yourself. Install dkms (from packman), make, gcc and the kernel headers (or source). Download the NVidia driver from their website. Log out of the GUI. As root, drop to run level 3 (the old init 3 still works if you don't want to be bothered with the new command) run the installer.. accept the defaults... reboot. Done. If there is a kernel update, the dkms link will auto-rebuild the driver on restart. I've been using this for quite a while, and it works well. C. -- openSUSE 13.1 x86_64, KDE 4.11, Nvidia GTX 660 Ti with 331.20 driver -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 15/12/13 09:03, C wrote:

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Dylan wrote:

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On 10/12/13 21:54, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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Hi,

I just received word from Stefan Dirsch that the NVIDIA drivers for 13.1 are now online .

ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/13.1/

And today they have gone again... Anyone would think nvidia didn't want customers...

If you can, just build them yourself.

Install dkms (from packman), make, gcc and the kernel headers (or source). Download the NVidia driver from their website. Log out of the GUI. As root, drop to run level 3 (the old init 3 still works if you don't want to be bothered with the new command) run the installer.. accept the defaults... reboot. Done.

If there is a kernel update, the dkms link will auto-rebuild the driver on restart. I've been using this for quite a while, and it works well.

C.

I know how to do it manually, but that doesn't provide rpm with the dependency information for some opengl packages. I have tried the dkms system (both with the nvidia installer and the dkms-enabled packages from the bumblebee repo) and found it to be unreliable at best. Using the updated kernel repo for test purposes, after kernel update there are various spurious side-effects ranging from fatal module not found errors at boot (even though it *is* present) through random changes in screen resolution and twinview set up, opengl and/or mesa dependent software failing, to cuda becoming unavailable. This is *not* a viable solution for the cgi group I support. Dx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 17/12/13 11:13, Peter wrote:

On 15/12/13 08:41, Dylan wrote:

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On 10/12/13 21:54, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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Hi,

I just received word from Stefan Dirsch that the NVIDIA drivers for 13.1 are now online .

ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/13.1/

And today they have gone again... Anyone would think nvidia didn't want customers...

Today they're back again. Catch 'em while you can.

In fact I've run into a hitch. I'm still on openSUSE 12.3 and am intending to do an upgrade to 13.1 in the next couple of days. I already have the nVidia repo for 12.3 set up and the drivers installed, but I noted in YaST that these newer drivers are showing up, so I thought I'd update those before I do a system upgrade as it might smooth the process slightly. Strange thing is I get constant 'Cannot find installation media' errors and no amount of retries will help. I can download and install updates from other repos no problem, so I deleted the nVidia repo and then reinstalled via the community repositories link in YaST. Again, it sets the repo up no problem and displays the updated drivers, but refuses to download / install them. I tried some random stabbing in the dark. By clicking on the Show Details box I then tried adjusting the path from http to ftp and retried. It returns the same installation media error showing the ftp url in the string. I also tried reenabling IPv6 on the system and rebooted, waiting over 10 minutes for the default repo refresh time in YaST to pass. Still no joy. I could try seeing if it's any different in zypper but I wonder if anybody else is running into this and whether it's a bug, and if so, should I report it direct to nVidia since they host the repo? Cheers, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org