On 5/15/07, Jerry Houston wrote:

Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Since you're explicitly embarking on this as a learning experience, you could always set up a dual-boot configuration for "compare and contrast" purposes. I'm really not up on it, but perhaps you could use Xen or one of the other virtualization systems to have both at once. Since you've got a dual-core processor, it should perform pretty well, though 2GB is even more restrictive in a concurrent dual-OS situation.

Thanks for your comments, Randall. The motherboard I'll be using has room for two RAM modules, and although it supports up to 8 GB in each (16 GB total), it's not easy to find modules that big. And even 2 GB modules are pretty expensive for a toy.

I just read an article that RAM prices are starting to drop rapidly, so con't buy more too quick. Apparently the big boys (Dell/HP) have been getting ram for $40/GB for several months but have kept the selling price up in the $100/$120 GB range. Possibly because they had a bunch of old inventory they bought for higher prices. Regardless retail price is supposedly starting to reflect the cheaper volume pricing. Hopefully we will all be able to get cheaper RAM soon. If retail drops to $50/GB or something that would be fantastic. Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 15 May 2007 2:52 pm, James Knott wrote:

I run 64 bit SUSE on my system and so far the only issue is with browsers, in that 64 bit pluggins are not common.

Also, the win32 codecs for mplayer won't work. For these 2 reasons I went back and did the 32-bit install. Jorge -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Jorge Fábregas [05-15-07 15:17]:

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On Tuesday 15 May 2007 2:52 pm, James Knott wrote:

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I run 64 bit SUSE on my system and so far the only issue is with browsers, in that 64 bit pluggins are not common.

Also, the win32 codecs for mplayer won't work. For these 2 reasons I went back and did the 32-bit install.

I am also running x86_64, with:

2.6.18.8-396-default #1 SMP

MPlayer-w32codecs-1.0rc1-0@i586 RealPlayer-10.0.8-0.2@i586 flash-player-9.0.31.0-2.1@i586 mplayerplug-in-3.40-0.pm.1@i586 MPlayer-k8-1.0rc1-jen2@x86_64 MPlayer-k8_sse3-1.0rc1-jen2@x86_64 alsaplayer-0.99.76-73@x86_64 kmplayer-0.9.4a-1.guru.suse101@x86_64 MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.3-11.2@i586

I have no problem that I am aware of :^)

Well, that's fine, but we need a list of problems that you're not aware of. ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 15 May 2007 3:59 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

I have no problem that I am aware of  :^)

You may have installed the w22codecs rpm but you won't play any WMV file :) Try these and you'll see: http://tinyurl.com/oxf5o HTH, Jorge -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 15 May 2007 5:05 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

guess you need to look at:   http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/JLeno.on.MPlayer.jpg

I just searched on the mplayer list and apparently ffmpeg and faad do the windows codecs fine in mplayer-64bit but I don't think they do the new versions. Patrick can you confirm the HD ones (WMV 9) on the link on my previous post? Cheers! Jorge -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 15 May 2007 5:53 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

No, there are only exe and aspx files.  

Nope, those are not real executables. Those are compressed files. You can open them with unzip. Try it. Believe me :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Patrick Shanahan [05-15-07 20:48]:

* Jorge Fábregas [05-15-07 20:21]:

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On Tuesday 15 May 2007 5:53 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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No, there are only exe and aspx files.  

Nope, those are not real executables. Those are compressed files. You can open them with unzip. Try it. Believe me :)

OK, lookey here: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/AdrenlineRush.jpg http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/AdrenlineRush1.jpg http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/AdrenlineRush2.jpg http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/AdrenlineRush.wmv

The proof is in the pudding.

My apologies, I must learn to spell :^( http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/AdrenalineRush.jpg http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/AdrenalineRush1.jpg http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/AdrenalineRush2.jpg http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/AdrenalineRush.wmv These links work, I tested them :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jorge Fábregas wrote:

On Tuesday 15 May 2007 2:52 pm, James Knott wrote:

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I run 64 bit SUSE on my system and so far the only issue is with browsers, in that 64 bit pluggins are not common.

Also, the win32 codecs for mplayer won't work. For these 2 reasons I went back and did the 32-bit install.

Jorge

Are you certain of that? I'm not at home at the moment, so I can't verify, but I'm certain 64 bit Mplayer works for me. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 5/15/07, Jorge Fábregas wrote:

On Tuesday 15 May 2007 4:06 pm, James Knott wrote:

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Are you certain of that? I'm not at home at the moment, so I can't verify, but I'm certain 64 bit Mplayer works for me.

Yes, I'm pretty sure abou tit. I have everything installed, configured (spent about 2 days setting up everything) and then I couldn't play any windows-media-video anywhere...I did my Google search and it turns out Mplayer(64-bit) won't load 32-bit win codecs... For the rest of the codecs you may have no problem with mplayer...It's just those win32 codecs the problem... Check these:

http://tinyurl.com/oxf5o

You need to install 32bit mplayer, and if you are using 64bit firefox, you need the 32bit mplayer plugin (not the 64 bit one) and use nspluginwrapper (http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/projects/nspluginwrapper/) so FF uses the 32bit mplayer. Same for flash (only 32bit available). I do not have 64 bit 10.2, only 10.0, so I use the 64 bit browser. I think I read that in 10.2 by default you get the 32 bit browser, so you will not need to use the wrapper anyway. But for sure the mplayer need to be the 32 bit one in order to play wmv files. Even then the results will vary, the codecs have not been changed for a long time, newer versions of wmv exists, I have problems playing some of these videos even on 32 bit machine. So, I just stopped to watch content in wmv, as I do not want to tolerate content providers who do the "wrong" stuff :) -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap.

Jorge Fábregas wrote:

On Tuesday 15 May 2007 2:52 pm, James Knott wrote:

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I run 64 bit SUSE on my system and so far the only issue is with browsers, in that 64 bit pluggins are not common.

Also, the win32 codecs for mplayer won't work. For these 2 reasons I went back and did the 32-bit install.

Then just install 32-bit mplayer. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

Jerry Houston wrote:

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I'll be using an Athlon dual-core 64-bit chip, 2 GB of dual-channel RAM, and at least until the recent conversations, I had been planning on installing the current "stable" 64-bit OpenSuSE distro.

Sounds like a good and reasonable plan. I have been running x86_64 since 9.1 (presently 10.2). I find the learning experience to be even better.

Thanks for everyone's comments. The case, CPU, memory, drives and all arrive tomorrow, and tonight I'm like a kid on Christmas eve. I'm gonna go to bed early, then get up and go to work early, so I can come home shortly after noon. I hope I can get some sleep. <g> I'm definitely going with the 64-bit system, at least to start with, if no more than to say that I've done it. The last computer I built on the same GeForce 6100 motherboard has XP-Pro installed, and since the MB came with a CD full of Windows drivers and utilities, it was pretty easy to get all the devices in a row. I hope that SuSE 64 will find all those onboard components to its liking. If so, then I think this is gonna be fun. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org