[opensuse] Android print solution?
Guys, With the iphone we were able to configure good print function via CUPS/Avahi, is there anything similar that can be done with an Android tablet? Looking, it doesn't appear that there is any basic print capability provided by Android (3.2 Honeycomb). I would like to print to by openSuSE server in the same manner I do from iOS. Anybody found a good solution? I have found PrintBot, but that isn't a solution because it cannot be used legally where confidentiality is required. (data is transferred to a 3rd party server before printing). I need to find a direct print solution. What says the braintrust? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/31/2012 03:44 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
With the iphone we were able to configure good print function via CUPS/Avahi, is there anything similar that can be done with an Android tablet? Looking, it doesn't appear that there is any basic print capability provided by Android (3.2 Honeycomb). I would like to print to by openSuSE server in the same manner I do from iOS. Anybody found a good solution?
I have found PrintBot, but that isn't a solution because it cannot be used legally where confidentiality is required. (data is transferred to a 3rd party server before printing). I need to find a direct print solution. What says the braintrust?
Will Motoprnit work? https://market.android.com/details?id=com.softwareimaging.motoprint.mobile&hl=en -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:52:03 -0500 Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@suse.com> wrote:
On 01/31/2012 03:44 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
With the iphone we were able to configure good print function via CUPS/Avahi, is there anything similar that can be done with an Android tablet? Looking, it doesn't appear that there is any basic print capability provided by Android (3.2 Honeycomb). I would like to print to by openSuSE server in the same manner I do from iOS. Anybody found a good solution?
I have found PrintBot, but that isn't a solution because it cannot be used legally where confidentiality is required. (data is transferred to a 3rd party server before printing). I need to find a direct print solution. What says the braintrust?
Will Motoprnit work?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.softwareimaging.motoprint.mobile&hl=en
http://android-harvest.blogspot.com/2011/09/porting-cups-on-android-successf... http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.dynamixsoftware.printershare/ http://androinica.com/2011/04/hp-eprint-android-printing/ http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1148 -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) Kernel 3.1.9-1.4-desktop up 1 day 0:39, 4 users, load average: 0.17, 0.14, 0.08 CPU Intel i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 1/31/2012 12:44 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
With the iphone we were able to configure good print function via CUPS/Avahi, is there anything similar that can be done with an Android tablet? Looking, it doesn't appear that there is any basic print capability provided by Android (3.2 Honeycomb). I would like to print to by openSuSE server in the same manner I do from iOS. Anybody found a good solution?
I have found PrintBot, but that isn't a solution because it cannot be used legally where confidentiality is required. (data is transferred to a 3rd party server before printing). I need to find a direct print solution. What says the braintrust?
I use this https://market.android.com/details?id=com.dynamixsoftware.printershare&feature=search_result Its not free. The free version is a test version, and limited. There is a key you buy separately to unlock most features. It will print on any printer it can "see" in your local network via wifi whether that printer is shared by cups, jet-direct, or Windows shares. It will print to local printers over bluetooth as well. It will print via Google Cloud print as well from anywhere in the world, but that probably won't meet your legal needs. There are also some proprietary printing packages made by some of the printer manufacturers, hp, kodak, etc. These often route thru Google Cloud share OR some facility supported by the manufacturer, so again may not meet your needs unless they encrypt en-route, which I doubt. Exceptions (to my doubt, above) include hp ePrint enterprise solutions. They claim encryption end-to-end. http://www.hp.com/global/us/en/eprint/enterprise-eprint.html But for in-house printing the PrintShare app never leaves your network. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/31/2012 02:59 PM, John Andersen wrote:
I use this https://market.android.com/details?id=com.dynamixsoftware.printershare&feature=search_result
Its not free. The free version is a test version, and limited. There is a key you buy separately to unlock most features.
John, Robert, Thanks! I will give printershare another look. I was hoping to find a pure open-source solution so I could... well... look at the source. What have we come to when you have to pay money to print from a device you own.... on your own printer? Go figure... Leave it to google... Not sure I like them anymore... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 1/31/2012 1:09 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 01/31/2012 02:59 PM, John Andersen wrote:
I use this https://market.android.com/details?id=com.dynamixsoftware.printershare&feature=search_result
Its not free. The free version is a test version, and limited. There is a key you buy separately to unlock most features.
John, Robert,
Thanks! I will give printershare another look. I was hoping to find a pure open-source solution so I could... well... look at the source.
What have we come to when you have to pay money to print from a device you own.... on your own printer? Go figure... Leave it to google... Not sure I like them anymore...
You are grousing at the wrong target, Google did not charge any money for their Cloud Print facility. The people you pay are Mobile Dynamix, which had this working well before Google Cloud Print came along. Cloud Print is free. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.pauloslf.cloudprint&feature=search_result Its just not necessarily secure: http://support.google.com/cloudprint/?hl=en And you have to leave a machine idling with Google Chrome instances running OR have a printer that supports it (as does my HP laserjet with e-Print (free) which is bridged to Cloud print (free), and which has (perhaps) some portion of that chain being secure, and (perhaps) some portion of that chain being open source (cloud print is). -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Try Let's Print Droid on the Play market. It's free , it talks CUPS nicely and it works with Avahi (Choose Bonjour scan when you add a new printer). https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackspruce.lpd <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackspruce.lpd> BlackSpruce -- View this message in context: http://opensuse.14.x6.nabble.com/Android-print-solution-tp4354436p4994754.ht... Sent from the openSUSE community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* blackspruce.software@gmail.com <blackspruce.software@gmail.com> [07-12-13 15:25]:
Try Let's Print Droid on the Play market. It's free , it talks CUPS nicely and it works with Avahi (Choose Bonjour scan when you add a new printer).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackspruce.lpd <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackspruce.lpd>
BlackSpruce
This appears to be *only* an advertisement, ie: spam. Althought it does print successfully to my networked hp laserjet, it only prints from within the local network whereas "Cloud Print" from google allows me to print from anywhere. I guess an option would be to open the printer address to the world but seem a "Bad Idea"(!tm). So finally this *is* spam! -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Try Let's Print Droid on the Play market. It's free , it talks CUPS nicely and it works with Avahi (Choose Bonjour scan when you add a new printer).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackspruce.lpd <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackspruce.lpd>
BlackSpruce This appears to be *only* an advertisement, ie: spam. Althought it does
* blackspruce.software@gmail.com <blackspruce.software@gmail.com> [07-12-13 15:25]: print successfully to my networked hp laserjet, it only prints from within the local network whereas "Cloud Print" from google allows me to print from anywhere. I guess an option would be to open the printer address to the world but seem a "Bad Idea"(!tm).
So finally this *is* spam!
Why is it spam, if it works on the local network? That's the same as printing from a computer. If the printer is not available on the Internet, you can't print to it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [07-12-13 17:43]:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Try Let's Print Droid on the Play market. It's free , it talks CUPS nicely and it works with Avahi (Choose Bonjour scan when you add a new printer).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackspruce.lpd <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackspruce.lpd>
BlackSpruce This appears to be *only* an advertisement, ie: spam. Althought it does
* blackspruce.software@gmail.com <blackspruce.software@gmail.com> [07-12-13 15:25]: print successfully to my networked hp laserjet, it only prints from within the local network whereas "Cloud Print" from google allows me to print from anywhere. I guess an option would be to open the printer address to the world but seem a "Bad Idea"(!tm).
So finally this *is* spam!
Why is it spam, if it works on the local network? That's the same as printing from a computer.
It is not particularly about any version of openSUSE or even proposed as, originated from a commercial address and proposes a product not for openSUSE systems.
If the printer is not available on the Internet, you can't print to it.
Sure you can, but the means are somewhat devious. I can print from anywhere with google's "Cloud Print". There is also an HP app which works with particular printers from outside your local network w/o baring yout printer to the world. I str that both require setting up via google's chromium browser. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
If the printer is not available on the Internet, you can't print to it. Sure you can, but the means are somewhat devious. I can print from anywhere with google's "Cloud Print". There is also an HP app which works with particular printers from outside your local network w/o baring yout printer to the world. I str that both require setting up via google's chromium browser.
Can you set up a CUPS printer and access it from elsewhere, if you didn't configure it and your firewall to allow such access? No, I didn't think so. I have never used a cloud printer. How do you access it, if you don't configure it to be accessible from outside or at least running some software that makes it available? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [07-12-13 18:18]:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
If the printer is not available on the Internet, you can't print to it. Sure you can, but the means are somewhat devious. I can print from anywhere with google's "Cloud Print". There is also an HP app which works with particular printers from outside your local network w/o baring yout printer to the world. I str that both require setting up via google's chromium browser.
Can you set up a CUPS printer and access it from elsewhere, if you didn't configure it and your firewall to allow such access? No, I didn't think so.
You answer your own question w/o facts and incorrectly. Your problem.
I have never used a cloud printer. How do you access it, if you don't configure it to be accessible from outside or at least running some software that makes it available?
google it. I told you it's setup via chromium. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2013-07-12 at 20:06 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* James Knott <> [07-12-13 18:18]:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
If the printer is not available on the Internet, you can't print to it. Sure you can, but the means are somewhat devious. I can print from anywhere with google's "Cloud Print". There is also an HP app which works with particular printers from outside your local network w/o baring yout printer to the world. I str that both require setting up via google's chromium browser.
Can you set up a CUPS printer and access it from elsewhere, if you didn't configure it and your firewall to allow such access? No, I didn't think so.
You answer your own question w/o facts and incorrectly. Your problem.
Patrick, James is right. Normal security policies discourage setting up a CUPS printer accross the internet, because amongst other things the password is passed in clear. CUPS is only a local print service, David was asking, albeit a year and a half ago, about a method to print from an android tablet to a openSUSE server, locally, without using any external service for legal reasons, and Mr BlackSpruce solution is just that. Yep, I searched for David post once I knew it existed O:-) I do not currently need to print directly from my Android phone, but I have saved this for future reference. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlHjupwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WPfQCeP6q9quN6l6b2UdmS9xwV3utG yZUAnj5RTu9KjRRmTnFw7D2FP9kobqzB =0OP0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
I was answering the original poster's question. You may consider my post spam if you like as I am the author of the app. However it would be spam with zero financial gain as the app is free and does what David Rankin asked. -- View this message in context: http://opensuse.14.x6.nabble.com/Android-print-solution-tp4354436p4994767.ht... Sent from the openSUSE community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* blackspruce.software@gmail.com <blackspruce.software@gmail.com> [07-12-13 19:54]:
I was answering the original poster's question. You may consider my post spam if you like as I am the author of the app. However it would be spam with zero financial gain as the app is free and does what David Rankin asked.
Then present it as such rather than just an "advertisement". "does what David Rankin asked", where/when. Not here within the last 100 days. Matter of fact, I haven't seen a post from him in the openSUSE lists in the last 200 days that I can find.... Thought he moved to *buntu. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1307151024530.16893@Telcontar.valinor> On Friday, 2013-07-12 at 16:51 -0700, blackspruce.software@gmail.com wrote:
I was answering the original poster's question. You may consider my post spam if you like as I am the author of the app. However it would be spam with zero financial gain as the app is free and does what David Rankin asked.
True, but you did not follow mail lists customs. You should have quoted the original message, or part of it, so that we could see the context, specially as it is a message from a year and a half ago. That way we could have seen inmediately that you were indeed replying to an old post. It is also customary to put your email address in the form: "somebody name" <somebody@somehost.somedomain> Then the reply header above would have been: On date somebody wrote instead of the mail address. This is not that important, but it scores in some automated spam testers, and we also know how to address you in our posts ;-) I quote below the original email that you were replying to: +++··············································· Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:44:59 -0600 From: David C. Rankin <> To: suse <opensuse@opensuse.org> Subject: [opensuse] Android print solution? Guys, With the iphone we were able to configure good print function via CUPS/Avahi, is there anything similar that can be done with an Android tablet? Looking, it doesn't appear that there is any basic print capability provided by Android (3.2 Honeycomb). I would like to print to by openSuSE server in the same manner I do from iOS. Anybody found a good solution? I have found PrintBot, but that isn't a solution because it cannot be used legally where confidentiality is required. (data is transferred to a 3rd party server before printing). I need to find a direct print solution. What says the braintrust? ···············································++- I found that post following the "In-Reply-To" header. Took me a while, though, using grepmail. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlHjsfIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WgWwCdESKwwt9b5ZuiEuOSVAHUyGdW uuMAn3UxqHKZ3k1FZCcOn2DbuzebGYYZ =xV7J -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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