Just thought all of you might like to know that the first review of Sun's new SuSE-based Java Desktop System is out for all to read: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5286 The article was well written, and I agree with most of the author's criticisms. However, I get the sense that there is an underlying motivation behind such harshness in that I do not believe the author was a SuSE user. For instance, he began to criticise YaST2 as an installation program and compared it with RedHat's Anaconda. When in fact, I believe YaST2 to be a perfectly acceptible installation/configuration package. Let me know what you think. Jason Pacheco Systems Developer Technology Center for Cables & Connectors Naval Undersea Warfare Center
On Wednesday 03 December 2003 14:13, Pacheco Jason NPRI wrote:
Just thought all of you might like to know that the first review of Sun's new SuSE-based Java Desktop System is out for all to read: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5286
The article was well written, and I agree with most of the author's criticisms. However, I get the sense that there is an underlying motivation behind such harshness in that I do not believe the author was a SuSE user. For instance, he
She, I think ... Eugenia Loli-Queru ? But I stand to be corrected.
began to criticise YaST2 as an installation program and compared it with RedHat's Anaconda. When in fact, I believe YaST2 to be a perfectly acceptible installation/configuration package. Let me know what you think.
Jason Pacheco Systems Developer Technology Center for Cables & Connectors Naval Undersea Warfare Center
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On Wednesday 03 December 2003 14:13, Pacheco Jason NPRI wrote:
Just thought all of you might like to know that the first review of Sun's new SuSE-based Java Desktop System is out for all to read: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5286
The article was well written, and I agree with most of the author's criticisms. However, I get the sense that there is an underlying motivation behind such harshness in that I do not believe the author was a SuSE user. For instance, he
She, I think ... Eugenia Loli-Queru ? But I stand to be corrected.
began to criticise YaST2 as an installation program and compared it with RedHat's Anaconda. When in fact, I believe YaST2 to be a perfectly acceptible installation/configuration package. Let me know what you think.
Yeah, really interesting. Another take on the story can be seen at: http://www.linuxworld.com/story/34036.htm Interesting that it's based on SUSE. They seem to be Gnome focused (sigh). Much as I'm a Java advocate, I think it'll be a version or 3 before it ammounts to anything in the big picture. Jake
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 16:46, Jake Pumphrey wrote:
Interesting that it's based on SUSE. They seem to be Gnome focused (sigh).
Much as I'm a Java advocate, I think it'll be a version or 3 before it ammounts to anything in the big picture.
I'm very pro-Java too, but this doesn't seem to have nearly as much to do with Java as it does with Linux. Reminds me of M$ calling everything *.Net whether it has anything to do with it or not. -- ======================================================= Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) ======================================================= Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. (In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.) ======================================================= -H.P. Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu" (1926) =======================================================
Glenn Holmer wrote:
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 16:46, Jake Pumphrey wrote:
Interesting that it's based on SUSE. They seem to be Gnome focused (sigh).
Much as I'm a Java advocate, I think it'll be a version or 3 before it ammounts to anything in the big picture.
I'm very pro-Java too, but this doesn't seem to have nearly as much to do with Java as it does with Linux. Reminds me of M$ calling everything *.Net whether it has anything to do with it or not.
Sun for obvious reasons have always touched Linux with the tips of two fingers and a clothes peg across the nose, so they had to use the name Java for a desktop that is a pretty standard Linux distro. I think their end game is to try to devise a version of Solaris with all the good stuff from Linux and see if it will fly with customers and if successful will propagate Solaris in place of Linux as better, more robust, secure and the full gamut of buzzwords that Corporations like to see. Regards Sid. --- Sid Boyce .... Linux Only Shop.
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 22:51, Sid Boyce wrote:
Glenn Holmer wrote:
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 16:46, Jake Pumphrey wrote:
Interesting that it's based on SUSE. They seem to be Gnome focused (sigh).
Much as I'm a Java advocate, I think it'll be a version or 3 before it ammounts to anything in the big picture.
I'm very pro-Java too, but this doesn't seem to have nearly as much to do with Java as it does with Linux. Reminds me of M$ calling everything *.Net whether it has anything to do with it or not.
Sun for obvious reasons have always touched Linux with the tips of two fingers and a clothes peg across the nose, so they had to use the name Java for a desktop that is a pretty standard Linux distro. I think their end game is to try to devise a version of Solaris with all the good stuff from Linux and see if it will fly with customers and if successful will propagate Solaris in place of Linux as better, more robust, secure and the full gamut of buzzwords that Corporations like to see. Regards Sid.
--- Sid Boyce .... Linux Only Shop.
Sun is putting new focus on Linux and integrating Linux into the datacenter environment; many of the new 1U servers are capable of running either Linux or Solaris x86. The new commitment to Linux can also be seen in the deal Sun made with AMD to build new systems around the Opteron 64-bit chip; the Sun deal with SuSE makes a lot of sense in that light. The new Sun JDS is based on SLES; I work at Sun and have been playing around with the beta(s). On my laptop, I run SuSE Pro 8.2 as my primary environment, but with GRUB I can use the JDS just as easily. While the betas do have some small annoyances, I think it is a big step in the right direction. I am providing feedback to the product team about things I'd like to see included; I am happy to pass along comments from the list as well. Mark Almeida Sun Professional Services Technical Architect -- Powered by SuSE Linux Pro 8.2/Evolution 1.4.5 This is a Microsoft-free computer
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