* Roger Oberholtzer [07-31-17 10:41]:

I am now experiencing the problem on a computer with Tumbleweed. It has worked in the past. But now I get:

zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command. Retrieving repository 'repo-debug' metadata .............................................................................................................................................................................................................................[done] Building repository 'repo-debug' cache ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................[done] Retrieving repository 'repo-non-oss' metadata ...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................[done] Building repository 'repo-non-oss' cache ................................................................................................................................................................................................................................[done] Retrieving repository 'repo-oss' metadata ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[\] Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/suse/setup/descr/appdata-ic...': Error code: Curl error 47 Error message: Maximum (6) redirects followed

I had a problem with packman mirrors and changed my repo to have: baseurl=http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ I do not know that this actually does anything, but I no longer have a problem with packman mirrors. maybe worth a try... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Roger Oberholtzer composed on 2017-08-01 07:57 (UTC+0200):

What is odd is all this started with all repos some time in the last week or so. It was never a problem previously. This applies to Tumbleweed systems where the software installed has not been modified (because of the failure) as well as new Leap 42.3 releases.

I wonder if it's possible that changing some things in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf could change some dynamics on your end and be helpful with this, possibly download.min_download_speed or download.max_silent_tries or one of their neighbors? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 31/07/17 11:50 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

I had a problem with packman mirrors and changed my repo to have:

baseurl=http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/

I do not know that this actually does anything, but I no longer have a problem with packman mirrors. maybe worth a try...

Now THAT is interesting! It implies that the zypp library can deal with multiple sources, step and repeat. it means I could, for example, start with UWaterloo, which is my geographically closest, and set min_speed to something that is prejudicial to poor performance there. Then, when that' rejected, try something less local, or even, finally, mirrorbrain. IF-BUT-MAYBE ... What do the code gurus say about the sources of the relevant code in the library? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:

On 31/07/17 11:50 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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I had a problem with packman mirrors and changed my repo to have:

baseurl=http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/

I do not know that this actually does anything, but I no longer have a problem with packman mirrors. maybe worth a try...

Now THAT is interesting! It implies that the zypp library can deal with multiple sources, step and repeat.

it means I could, for example, start with UWaterloo, which is my geographically closest, and set min_speed to something that is prejudicial to poor performance there. Then, when that' rejected, try something less local, or even, finally, mirrorbrain.

This is not how it seems to work. I was also intrigued by the possibility. If I added a list of sites, there is a syntax error. I could only change to a specific one. I tried space and comma delimiters. No difference. -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2017-08-02 10:18, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:

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On 31/07/17 11:50 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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I had a problem with packman mirrors and changed my repo to have:

baseurl=http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/

I do not know that this actually does anything, but I no longer have a problem with packman mirrors. maybe worth a try...

Now THAT is interesting! It implies that the zypp library can deal with multiple sources, step and repeat.

it means I could, for example, start with UWaterloo, which is my geographically closest, and set min_speed to something that is prejudicial to poor performance there. Then, when that' rejected, try something less local, or even, finally, mirrorbrain.

This is not how it seems to work. I was also intrigued by the possibility.

If I added a list of sites, there is a syntax error. I could only change to a specific one. I tried space and comma delimiters. No difference.

It worked the way I did, posted on another mail days ago.

Really? I tried that and mine complains. Do you have one url per line? I had a long line with all the urls. e-mail formatting may be part of the problem. -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Roger Oberholtzer [08-02-17 07:26]:

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2017-08-02 10:18, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:

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On 31/07/17 11:50 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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I had a problem with packman mirrors and changed my repo to have:

baseurl=http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/

I do not know that this actually does anything, but I no longer have a problem with packman mirrors. maybe worth a try...

Now THAT is interesting! It implies that the zypp library can deal with multiple sources, step and repeat.

it means I could, for example, start with UWaterloo, which is my geographically closest, and set min_speed to something that is prejudicial to poor performance there. Then, when that' rejected, try something less local, or even, finally, mirrorbrain.

This is not how it seems to work. I was also intrigued by the possibility.

If I added a list of sites, there is a syntax error. I could only change to a specific one. I tried space and comma delimiters. No difference.

It worked the way I did, posted on another mail days ago.

Really? I tried that and mine complains. Do you have one url per line? I had a long line with all the urls. e-mail formatting may be part of the problem.

my repo with the url's listed as I suggested is here where it can be viewed w/o any altered formatting: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Tumbleweed.packman.repo and I get no syntax error. also using: zypper -vvvv refresh Tumbleweed.packman editing the url list to force the first url to fail, I get: Verbosity: 6 Non-option program arguments: 'Tumbleweed.packman' Initializing Target Specified repositories: Tumbleweed.packman Checking whether to refresh metadata for Tumbleweed.packman Retrieving: http://google.com/repodata/repomd.xml ...........................................................[not found] Retrieving: http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/repodata/repomd.xml .................................[done] Repository 'Tumbleweed.packman' is up to date. Specified repositories have been refreshed. so it does fall over to the next in list on failure. and it appears to use the specified url rather than a mirror. undocumented (that I have found) *feature*. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Roger Oberholtzer [08-02-17 07:46]:

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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so it does fall over to the next in list on failure. and it appears to use the specified url rather than a mirror.

undocumented (that I have found) *feature*.

So one needs to have the repos each on a separate line. I will have to try that.

yes, that is how I displayed them on the email, w/o line continuation chars.

I wonder how one could get kiwi to do this. But that's a different topic.

no idea -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Patrick Shanahan [08-02-17 08:33]:

* Patrick Shanahan [08-02-17 07:59]:

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* Roger Oberholtzer [08-02-17 07:46]:

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On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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so it does fall over to the next in list on failure. and it appears to use the specified url rather than a mirror.

undocumented (that I have found) *feature*.

So one needs to have the repos each on a separate line. I will have to try that.

yes, that is how I displayed them on the email, w/o line continuation chars.

looking more closely at this repo listing, I wonder if the "gpgkey" line should have additional, matching urls or some magick to make it a sub-set of the "baseurl". it seems that line really should be removed and the key "expected" to exist (or not) relative to the baseurl, making the repo line superfluous. could that be labeled standardization?

fwiw, including additional gpgkey lines as with baseurl lines does not cause any syntax error and appears to work. I also included an incorrect gpgkey url and it fell over to the next listed. it makes no effort to "match" the baseurl. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 02/08/17 04:18 AM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

This is not how it seems to work. I was also intrigued by the possibility.

If I added a list of sites, there is a syntax error. I could only change to a specific one. I tried space and comma delimiters. No difference.

That is in its turn also fascinating. I wonder what it is that Patrick is doing that makes it work, then? Perhaps its tied to a specific revision of the zypp library. Patrick: could you care to comment? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org