[opensuse] Fortran 90
Hi guys, I have problems with fortran 90 in opensuse 10.2, it is not in my system. BLAS do not function, I dont know wath happen. Thnaks for your help. ==================================================== Leonardo Andrés Espinosa Leal Físico Grupo de Física de la Materia Condensada Universidad Nacional de Colombia Sede Bogotá Bogotá, Colombia. ==================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 16 February 2007 11:56, Leonardo Andres Espinosa Leal wrote:
Hi guys,
I have problems with fortran 90 in opensuse 10.2, it is not in my system. BLAS do not function, I dont know wath happen.
People still use FORTRAN? Wow. -- kai getting to grips with the ups and downs thank god there's nothing in between -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
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People still use FORTRAN?
Your knowledge about programming languages seems to be quite limited. For instance, Fortran is used in scientific and high-performance (numerical) computing, and many companies still have old Fortran code to maintain. Therefore the answer is: yes, people still use Fortran. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 17 February 2007 03:30, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
[...]
People still use FORTRAN?
Your knowledge about programming languages seems to be quite limited.
Ha!
For instance, Fortran is used in scientific and high-performance (numerical) computing, and many companies still have old Fortran code to maintain. Therefore the answer is: yes, people still use Fortran.
My apologies - the sarchasm tag must have fallen off. Having written JCL and Cobol and tried to integrate that with a COM+ DLL into a .NET application, I'm pretty familiar with what's out there. Recently, we've been having to tap into FOCUS to get information from a database written in the '80s. I have this on one of my walls... http://www.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/news/languageposter_0504.html ...makes for fun reading. Just grab a plotter and print it out, if you want. -- kai Free Compean and Ramos http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/46 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Saturday 17 February 2007 03:30, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
[...]
People still use FORTRAN?
Your knowledge about programming languages seems to be quite limited.
Ha!
For instance, Fortran is used in scientific and high-performance (numerical) computing, and many companies still have old Fortran code to maintain. Therefore the answer is: yes, people still use Fortran.
My apologies - the sarchasm tag must have fallen off.
One thing to bear in mind, is that Fortran was designed for scientific use, just as Cobol was written for business needs.. That alone makes it superior to other languages for scientific and engineering programming, the right tool for the job etc. It has been updated many times over the years to keep it current. Incidentally, if you go back in computer history, you'll find that entire systems were optimized for the task, as computing power was too expensive to waste on unneeded function. So back in those days, you'd have computers & languages designed for business or scientific use. It wasn't until the early - mid sixties that "general purpose" computers started to appear. With computer power so cheap these days, such optimization is no longer needed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
[...] So back in those days, you'd have computers & languages designed for business or scientific use. It wasn't until the early - mid sixties that "general purpose" computers started to appear. With computer power so cheap these days, such optimization is no longer needed.
This is not entirely true. Just look at what is nowadays known as reconfigurable hardware or FPGAs. This is a form of adjusting hardware in order to run software (algorithms) with optimized speed. In other words, such an optimization still exists and is used in HPC. Sometimes, it's even necessary because the compute requirements easily exceed traditional "general purpose" processor solutions... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:30:42 +0000 Thomas Hertweck <Thomas.Hertweck@web.de> wrote:
Your knowledge about programming languages seems to be quite limited. For instance, Fortran is used in scientific and high-performance (numerical) computing, and many companies still have old Fortran code to maintain. Therefore the answer is: yes, people still use Fortran. He was joking :-)
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Kai Ponte wrote:
On Friday 16 February 2007 11:56, Leonardo Andres Espinosa Leal wrote:
Hi guys,
I have problems with fortran 90 in opensuse 10.2, it is not in my system. BLAS do not function, I dont know wath happen.
People still use FORTRAN?
Wow.
Of course. What else will they use all those punch cards for? ;-) Actually, yes it is still used. There is an immense library of scientific and engineering code written in it. In fact I recall seeing a few years back, a CD from NASA with lots of Fortran apps. Incidentally, I took a Fortran course several years ago. I never had any reason to make use of it, but at that time a lot of software at work was written in Fortran. Because of this, I was able to use a VAX 11/780 to do my homework. :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi Leonardo, I use both Fortran 90 and Fortran 95 on openSuSE 10.2. I cannot understand the problem you are encountering. Can you explain better? Francesco Leonardo Andres Espinosa Leal wrote:
Hi guys,
I have problems with fortran 90 in opensuse 10.2, it is not in my system. BLAS do not function, I dont know wath happen.
Thnaks for your help.
==================================================== Leonardo Andrés Espinosa Leal Físico Grupo de Física de la Materia Condensada Universidad Nacional de Colombia Sede Bogotá Bogotá, Colombia. ====================================================
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My problem is that I' can not find it. I can not use it. and I know that opensuse contain fortran 90, but it is not in my system. ==================================================== Leonardo Andrés Espinosa Leal Físico Grupo de Física de la Materia Condensada Universidad Nacional de Colombia Sede Bogotá Bogotá, Colombia. ==================================================== ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Francesco Teodori <francesco.teodori@gmail.com> Fecha: Saturday, Febrero 17, 2007 4:44 am Asunto: Re: [opensuse] Fortran 90
Hi Leonardo,
I use both Fortran 90 and Fortran 95 on openSuSE 10.2. I cannot understand the problem you are encountering. Can you explain better?
Francesco
Leonardo Andres Espinosa Leal wrote:
Hi guys,
I have problems with fortran 90 in opensuse 10.2, it is not in my system. BLAS do not function, I dont know wath happen.
Thnaks for your help.
==================================================== Leonardo Andrés Espinosa Leal Físico Grupo de Física de la Materia Condensada Universidad Nacional de Colombia Sede Bogotá Bogotá, Colombia. ====================================================
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The compiler, you are looking for, is gfortran. If you downloaded the dvd iso, you have not retrieved it, because fortran is not included in the package collection. You need to add a Yast on-line installation source like ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/suse/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss, for instance. After that, you can install the package you need. I also suggest to try g95 (www.g95.org), that I found pretty good. Francesco Leonardo Andres Espinosa Leal wrote:
My problem is that I' can not find it. I can not use it. and I know that opensuse contain fortran 90, but it is not in my system.
==================================================== Leonardo Andrés Espinosa Leal Físico Grupo de Física de la Materia Condensada Universidad Nacional de Colombia Sede Bogotá Bogotá, Colombia. ====================================================
----- Mensaje original ----- De: Francesco Teodori <francesco.teodori@gmail.com> Fecha: Saturday, Febrero 17, 2007 4:44 am Asunto: Re: [opensuse] Fortran 90
Hi Leonardo,
I use both Fortran 90 and Fortran 95 on openSuSE 10.2. I cannot understand the problem you are encountering. Can you explain better?
Francesco
Leonardo Andres Espinosa Leal wrote:
Hi guys,
I have problems with fortran 90 in opensuse 10.2, it is not in
my system. BLAS do not function, I dont know wath happen.
Thnaks for your help.
==================================================== Leonardo Andrés Espinosa Leal Físico Grupo de Física de la Materia Condensada Universidad Nacional de Colombia Sede Bogotá Bogotá, Colombia. ====================================================
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Thanks for the help... I'm using g95 fortran compiler, but I have problem with the instalation of LAPACK and BlAS using it. I don not know the reason, but I can not to use the libraries. I need help about it. ==================================================== Leonardo Andrés Espinosa Leal Físico Grupo de Física de la Materia Condensada Universidad Nacional de Colombia Sede Bogotá Bogotá, Colombia. ==================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
|-----Original Message----- |From: Leonardo Andres Espinosa Leal [mailto:laespinosal@unal.edu.co] |Sent: 18. februar 2007 05:46 |Thanks for the help... | |I'm using g95 fortran compiler, but I have problem with the |instalation of LAPACK and BlAS using it. I don not know the |reason, but I can not to use the libraries. | |I need help about it. | It's been some years since I touched fortran :-) Some error messages would be nice, do you not get to the libraries or do they fail to compile. Can you compile object code? etc. If you installed the libraries separately, you probably have to tell the compiler/linker where to find the libraries. Do you have latest binutils installed and all gcc sources installed? g95 uses the same infrastructure as gcc, so I just install all -devel packages with sources. FYI: You should test out intel's Fortran compilers, BLAS/Lapack is covered by MKL Free for non commercial use, but need a register, In most cases they are way faster: http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/download/download/inde... -- MortenB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Leonardo Andres Espinosa Leal wrote:
Hi guys,
I have problems with fortran 90 in opensuse 10.2, it is not in my system. BLAS do not function, I dont know wath happen.
You have to install it first. I don't know about 10.2 (still on 9.3 here) but it used to be part of the gcc package: vankan@pavilion:~> rpm -q --whatprovides g77 gcc-g77-3.3.5-5 fortran 90 is provided by a switch in the g77 compiler. (It provides a subset) If you need a more complete support, check out g95 or gfortran. Those are not part of the SUSE distro though. Regards, -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 17. Februar 2007 schrieb Jos van Kan:
Leonardo Andres Espinosa Leal wrote:
Hi guys,
I have problems with fortran 90 in opensuse 10.2, it is not in my system. BLAS do not function, I dont know wath happen.
You have to install it first. I don't know about 10.2 (still on 9.3 here) but it used to be part of the gcc package:
vankan@pavilion:~> rpm -q --whatprovides g77 gcc-g77-3.3.5-5
fortran 90 is provided by a switch in the g77 compiler. (It provides a subset)
If you need a more complete support, check out g95 or gfortran. Those are not part of the SUSE distro though. This has changed now. SUSE-10.2 uses gcc-4.1.2. Gcc-4.x comes with gfortran as its fortran compiler ( g77 is no longer part of gcc, but SUSE ships g77-3.3.5 as compatibility package. )
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Thomas Hertweck