I have a very old 486 33 Mhz that I want to use as a router. The problem is that it is very old, having a CD (I installed several years after it was bought) that is very non-standard. I hope I can somehow install w/o using this CD, as I imagine there's a lot of work getting it to function (the CD is connected to a create soundblaster sound card). There's a working network card in the computer. Can I install using that? -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:40:55 +0100, you wrote:
I have a very old 486 33 Mhz that I want to use as a router. The problem is that it is very old, having a CD (I installed several years after it was bought) that is very non-standard. I hope I can somehow install w/o using this CD, as I imagine there's a lot of work getting it to function (the CD is connected to a create soundblaster sound card).
There's a working network card in the computer. Can I install using that?
I had exactly this same problem. There are at least two possible solutions. If your network card is a recognizable option from within YAST (mine wasn't), then you can have YAST recognize your network card, and then do a network install. This would be the easiest method. However, my problem was that the NIC modules that shipped with my SuSE were corrupt, so I could not get my card (a 3com 3c509) to load. My solution was to take the hard-drive out of the 486, and swap it into my computer that *does* have a good CD-ROM. I then did a brand new, minimum install, with networking, onto that 486 drive. I then made a custom kernel, including support for my network card and installed that on the drive. Once I removed the drive, and reinstalled is in the 486, everything went well. I even moved the NIC module over to a fresh floppy just in case I ever got another hard-drive crash and had to reinstall SuSE. Far and away, if Yast will recognize your network card, this is the *simplest* route. But I will bet that my way, swapping the drives, was just as *fast*. Stuart -- Stuart Hall Cheshire, Connecticut, USA Linux User# 141732 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I had an old packard bell w/no cd and was able to install suse fine using ftp from another local suse box. I used a well supported 3com card. Stuart Hall wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:40:55 +0100, you wrote:
I have a very old 486 33 Mhz that I want to use as a router. The problem is that it is very old, having a CD (I installed several years after it was bought) that is very non-standard. I hope I can somehow install w/o using this CD, as I imagine there's a lot of work getting it to function (the CD is connected to a create soundblaster sound card).
There's a working network card in the computer. Can I install using that?
I had exactly this same problem. There are at least two possible solutions.
If your network card is a recognizable option from within YAST (mine wasn't), then you can have YAST recognize your network card, and then do a network install. This would be the easiest method.
However, my problem was that the NIC modules that shipped with my SuSE were corrupt, so I could not get my card (a 3com 3c509) to load. My solution was to take the hard-drive out of the 486, and swap it into my computer that *does* have a good CD-ROM. I then did a brand new, minimum install, with networking, onto that 486 drive. I then made a custom kernel, including support for my network card and installed that on the drive. Once I removed the drive, and reinstalled is in the 486, everything went well. I even moved the NIC module over to a fresh floppy just in case I ever got another hard-drive crash and had to reinstall SuSE.
Far and away, if Yast will recognize your network card, this is the *simplest* route. But I will bet that my way, swapping the drives, was just as *fast*.
Stuart -- Stuart Hall Cheshire, Connecticut, USA Linux User# 141732
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Remove the hard drive , and swap it ino another chasis with a cdrom. Go throgh the whole install , and reboot it and let it do the configureation stuff. Then reboot agien to check that it reboots and has finished the install prossess completly. then remove and put back into the original box. Trust me , this is the fastest and easiest way if you value your time. once its up and running you can do the updates off a shered cdrom. Its just takes forever to do an install on a 486 , as well as a long timne for the configureration scripts to finish. Its easier to watch the install on a pentuip 75 or better. Wuit a diffrence. Mater of fact I plan on picking up a used bare bones P133 or somthing just for this and for testing parts in.No need to tear a cpu apart to test something ot upgrade a hard drive ect... At 01:39 PM 2/24/2000 GMT, Stuart Hall wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:40:55 +0100, you wrote:
I have a very old 486 33 Mhz that I want to use as a router. The problem is that it is very old, having a CD (I installed several years after it was bought) that is very non-standard. I hope I can somehow install w/o using this CD, as I imagine there's a lot of work getting it to function (the CD is connected to a create soundblaster sound card).
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Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
I have a very old 486 33 Mhz that I want to use as a router. The problem is that it is very old, having a CD (I installed several years after it was bought) that is very non-standard. I hope I can somehow install w/o using this CD, as I imagine there's a lot of work getting it to function (the CD is connected to a create soundblaster sound card).
There's a working network card in the computer. Can I install using that?
Both choices are nearly equal effort: 1) try and error with "non standard" CD modules and bootdisk (my very slightly preffered one) 2) NFS install. configure one machine as NFS server by - editing /etc/exports to export the /cdrom dir - restarting / starting the nfsserver The whole latter procedure should be discribed in the manual. In theory you can copy all cd's to a server dir as well, make sure to copy the hidden files as well... my /etc/exports looks like: # See exports(5) for a description. # This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers. # It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd. /cdrom install.forty.two(ro) arthurdent.forty.two(ro) /usr/src arthurdent.forty.two(rw, no_root_squash) 192.168.42.142(rw, no_root_squash) # Juergen -- =========================================== __ _ Juergen Braukmann juergen.braukmann@gmx.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ===========================================_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I found the ftp method to be much easier than setting up NFS. I just mounted the cd in a local suse box that allowed ftp and then pointed the installation to that machine for ftp install Juergen Braukmann wrote:
Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
I have a very old 486 33 Mhz that I want to use as a router. The problem is that it is very old, having a CD (I installed several years after it was bought) that is very non-standard. I hope I can somehow install w/o using this CD, as I imagine there's a lot of work getting it to function (the CD is connected to a create soundblaster sound card).
There's a working network card in the computer. Can I install using that?
Both choices are nearly equal effort: 1) try and error with "non standard" CD modules and bootdisk (my very slightly preffered one)
2) NFS install. configure one machine as NFS server by - editing /etc/exports to export the /cdrom dir - restarting / starting the nfsserver
The whole latter procedure should be discribed in the manual. In theory you can copy all cd's to a server dir as well, make sure to copy the hidden files as well...
my /etc/exports looks like: # See exports(5) for a description. # This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers. # It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd. /cdrom install.forty.two(ro) arthurdent.forty.two(ro) /usr/src arthurdent.forty.two(rw, no_root_squash) 192.168.42.142(rw, no_root_squash) #
Juergen
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Hi. At 13:40 on 24 Feb 00, Kaare Rasmussen begun to yabber about "[SLE] Install w/o CD" Date sent: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:40:55 +0100 From: Kaare Rasmussen <kar@webline.dk> To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] Install w/o CD
I have a very old 486 33 Mhz that I want to use as a router. The problem is that it is very old, having a CD (I installed several years after it was bought) that is very non-standard. I hope I can somehow install w/o using this CD, as I imagine there's a lot of work getting it to function (the CD is connected to a create soundblaster sound card).
You could always install it via FTP?? Or is this not an option? NFS is another network option. Cya Matthew Matthew King: Network Engineer, Cable & Wireless Optus. My ICQ#: 2342475 Message me! Cellular Phone: +61 415 257 516 041 525 7516 (Inside .au) Home e-mail: nerd@zip.com.au Work e-mail: Matthew.King@cwo.net.au Homepage: http://www.zip.com.au/~nerd/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GIT d+ s: a--- C++++ UL++++ P+ L+++ E---- W++ N++ o++ K w O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP- t+ 5++++ X++ R+ tv++ b+++ DI+++++ D++ G+++ e* h* r++ y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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