[opensuse] Tbird different reader pane font -- driving me nuts -- SOLVED
All, This little nit has been driving me nuts since the dup to 15.0. In Thunderbird, for some strange reason, some list messages would rendering in a good and readable font, others would render a couple of points smaller (now a problem the older I get) I always read/write in fixed-width fonts. It turns out it is an encoding problem unicode versus western, etc.. Picking through the config editor, there are two keys that control the rendering: font.size.fixed.x-unicode font.size.fixed.x-western Setting them both to the same value (11 here) did the trick. Thought I would pass it along. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 17/12/2019 09.36, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
This little nit has been driving me nuts since the dup to 15.0. In Thunderbird, for some strange reason, some list messages would rendering in a good and readable font, others would render a couple of points smaller (now a problem the older I get) I always read/write in fixed-width fonts.
It turns out it is an encoding problem unicode versus western, etc.. Picking through the config editor, there are two keys that control the rendering:
font.size.fixed.x-unicode
font.size.fixed.x-western
Setting them both to the same value (11 here) did the trick. Thought I would pass it along.
Menu, edit, preferences, Display, Formatting tab, advanced -> fonts and encodings dialog. One per language! No feature to reset to default or apply a setting to all of them. Four fonts per language. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXfjcvQAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1SauAJ43nvuOttkY1FyNawYkX4YCVmFN/ACfR8cUl3E3Q8YOwNz5f/89in963dM= =3PCU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-12-17 14:48, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 17/12/2019 09.36, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
It turns out it is an encoding problem unicode versus western, etc.. Picking through the config editor, there are two keys that control the rendering:
font.size.fixed.x-unicode
font.size.fixed.x-western
Setting them both to the same value (11 here) did the trick. Thought I would pass it along.
Menu, edit, preferences, Display, Formatting tab, advanced -> fonts and encodings dialog. One per language! No feature to reset to default or apply a setting to all of them. Four fonts per language.
don't see this here: https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_12/ILroBQoORpk_Screenshot-20191217-152725.jpeg it's not "per langage" but per langage category (latin, arabian...) and yes it don't works well but I don't see any of above in about:config https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_12/ILroHxdCMlk_Screenshot-20191217-153304.jpeg may be we need to create them? oh...there is the "western one" jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd@dodin.org composed on 2019-12-17 15:36 (UTC+0100):
it's not "per langage" but per langage category (latin, arabian...)
and yes it don't works well
but I don't see any of above in about:config https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_12/ILroHxdCMlk_Screenshot-20191217-153304.jpeg
may be we need to create them? oh...there is the "western one"
Many prefs do not exist in any Mozilla product's about:config until they have been changed from default or added manually. These include most fonts. To reset fonts to defaults, exit the app and delete *fonts* lines from prefs.js in the profile directory. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/17/2019 07:48 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Setting them both to the same value (11 here) did the trick. Thought I would pass it along.
Menu, edit, preferences, Display, Formatting tab, advanced -> fonts and encodings dialog. One per language! No feature to reset to default or apply a setting to all of them. Four fonts per language.
Yes, But the issue was there were different sizes set for unicode and western fixed fonts -- which from that dialog (or at least the one I see on my old version) should not be possible. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 17/12/2019 08:48, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Menu, edit, preferences, Display, Formatting tab, advanced -> fonts and encodings dialog. One per language! No feature to reset to default or apply a setting to all of them. Four fonts per language.
Indeed. My messages and message list and account/folder panes are all OK. Its the menu bar(s) that is proving unsatisfactory since the upgrade, its about twice the point size now. Are the setting for that? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/18/2019 06:32 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Indeed. My messages and message list and account/folder panes are all OK. Its the menu bar(s) that is proving unsatisfactory since the upgrade, its about twice the point size now.
Are the setting for that?
Yes, that's a Gtk+3 thing though, not a tbird thing. (which is why I have an Gtk+2 version of tbird, I can't stand the look of the new one and very few Gtk+3 html'ized themes are complete enough to provide default sizes for all widgets and menus and toolbars, etc... They are getting better, but my Firefox entry boxes still spill across DIV panes where with Gtk+2 there was no issue. About the best you can do is edit/create your ~/.config/gtk+3/settings.ini and set values for: gtk-font-name gtk-icon-sizes gtk-toolbar-icon-size e.g gtk-font-name="sans-serif 9" gtk-toolbar-icon-size=GTK_ICON_SIZE_MENU For settings details see: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkSettings.html -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/20/2019 10:36 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 12/18/2019 06:32 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Indeed. My messages and message list and account/folder panes are all OK. Its the menu bar(s) that is proving unsatisfactory since the upgrade, its about twice the point size now.
Are the setting for that?
Yes, that's a Gtk+3 thing though, not a tbird thing. (which is why I have an Gtk+2 version of tbird, I can't stand the look of the new one and very few Gtk+3 html'ized themes are complete enough to provide default sizes for all widgets and menus and toolbars, etc... They are getting better, but my Firefox entry boxes still spill across DIV panes where with Gtk+2 there was no issue.
About the best you can do is edit/create your ~/.config/gtk+3/settings.ini and set values for:
gtk-font-name gtk-icon-sizes gtk-toolbar-icon-size
e.g
gtk-font-name="sans-serif 9" gtk-toolbar-icon-size=GTK_ICON_SIZE_MENU
For settings details see:
Of course, now most Gtk+3 settings.ini settings are deprecated so you have no control over the interface anymore and are left to the whims of the theme designers -- which for Gtk+3 themes provide very little in actual sizing, so you end up with Gtk+3 defaults for most elements. So now if you look at /usr/share/themes/Adwaita/gtk-3.0/gtk.css, you get: /* Adwaita is the default theme of GTK+ 3, this file is not used */ Good luck figuring out what the defaults are.... An actual theme file will have about 4700 lines of .css for you to pick though to find what you need. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Anton Aylward
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Carlos E. R.
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David C. Rankin
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Felix Miata
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jdd@dodin.org