[opensuse] What Does This Mean For Our Future?
Take a look at this and you'll start to understand what our great grandchildren will grow up with and think of as normal. Or, "Practical Applications For Eye Candy" http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4217348.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 June 2007 08:01, Stevens wrote:
Take a look at this and you'll start to understand what our great grandchildren will grow up with and think of as normal.
Or, "Practical Applications For Eye Candy"
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4217348.html
OOPS! I shouls have said "My great-grandchildren" 'cuz I'm so old. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 June 2007 08:03, Stevens wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 08:01, Stevens wrote:
Take a look at this and you'll start to understand what our great grandchildren will grow up with and think of as normal.
Or, "Practical Applications For Eye Candy"
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4217348.html
OOPS! I shouls have said "My great-grandchildren" 'cuz I'm so old.
Interesting. Star Trek goes obsolete. You can remember when they started with computer that has blinking lights panel. Later they got CRT monitors, than some kind of flat panel and something like this table in machine control room. And taking that 10 years ago high speed computer was 300 MHz and today is 10 times more with multiprocessing going from high end workstations and servers to home desktop, that magic table is 5 years from home. Predicted price of 5-10 thousands seems real considering used components and it will drop just as it did for other technology gadgets. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 June 2007 08:59, Rajko M. wrote: Sorry for this. I looked on mail content and thought it is offtopic mail list. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 June 2007 09:06, Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 08:59, Rajko M. wrote:
Sorry for this. I looked on mail content and thought it is offtopic mail list.
-- Regards, Rajko.
No, it isn't off topic, especially with Beryl and Emerald and the move towards more and more eye-candy. The fact that it is M$ doing this project only means that the Linux world will be right in the middle of this technology very soon. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 June 2007 09:58, Stevens wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 09:06, Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 08:59, Rajko M. wrote:
Sorry for this. I looked on mail content and thought it is offtopic mail list.
-- Regards, Rajko.
No, it isn't off topic, especially with Beryl and Emerald and the move towards more and more eye-candy. The fact that it is M$ doing this project only means that the Linux world will be right in the middle of this technology very soon.
Stevens, it is not off topic for openSUSE project, we all would like to know where computing is going, but it is offtopic for this list. http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate In section: User/Support Lists " These lists are for generic questions and User to User support for the openSUSE distribution. * opensuse@opensuse.org - English Language * etc " The other misconception is that offtopic list is for chat only. It is for all other topics that are not covered with other lists. If something appear to be offtopic for all mail lists mentioned on Communicate page, it belongs to offtopic list. We could call it miscellaneous-topics(-not-covered-by-other-lists), but offtopic is shorter ;-) and good enough for majority. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 09:58 -0500, Stevens wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 09:06, Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 08:59, Rajko M. wrote:
Sorry for this. I looked on mail content and thought it is offtopic mail list.
-- Regards, Rajko.
No, it isn't off topic, especially with Beryl and Emerald and the move towards more and more eye-candy. The fact that it is M$ doing this project only means that the Linux world will be right in the middle of this technology very soon.
Beg to differ but did someone ask for _help_ using this device? That is what this list is for helping people. ANYTHING else IS OT. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stevens wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 09:06, Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 08:59, Rajko M. wrote:
Sorry for this. I looked on mail content and thought it is offtopic mail list.
-- Regards, Rajko.
No, it isn't off topic, especially with Beryl and Emerald and the move towards more and more eye-candy. The fact that it is M$ doing this project only means that the Linux world will be right in the middle of this technology very soon.
And old hat... Bell labs were working on these kind of ideas in the early 80s (all that really came out of was the first MAC and Windows). I even got to see some some early examples of table based I.T. more than a decade ago... I do not see where this fits into a the more general move towards personal data and computer devices... (Portables, Tablets, PDAs and Smartphones). For many of todays young style is a sleek phone, not a sleek computer interface.. For general use the majority of people struggle with a keyboard, mouse and a 2D screen doing 2D data representations, 3D representation has really only been used in CAD, virtualisation, and gaming, all areas with special requirements. I doubt this kind 3D interface will be in use until people can make productive use of it and are comfortable with it (and that productive use is significantly better than current use). I may be going down the same road as (unly 4 computers) Watson or (who needs more than 64K) Gates here....:-) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGbl3HasN0sSnLmgIRAnVEAJ9/s6v/W9dc1kek83QQ1xxTbmG6lQCfSWHP 7Rk3BDkOTqmtBKF1TgDL2uw= =VuhL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
it will drop
I would like to drop a wisky glass on this table :-)) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Stevens wrote:
Take a look at this and you'll start to understand what our great grandchildren will grow up with and think of as normal.
Or, "Practical Applications For Eye Candy"
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4217348.html
I already invented this 15 years ago... (not joking) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 June 2007 10:12, jdd wrote:
Stevens wrote:
Take a look at this and you'll start to understand what our great grandchildren will grow up with and think of as normal.
Or, "Practical Applications For Eye Candy"
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4217348.html
I already invented this 15 years ago... (not joking)
jdd
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Let's see... j d d ... hmmm, no, I cannot figure out how Al Gore can be initialized by JDD. (But of course, I AM joking) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Stevens wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 10:12, jdd wrote:
Stevens wrote:
Take a look at this and you'll start to understand what our great grandchildren will grow up with and think of as normal.
Or, "Practical Applications For Eye Candy"
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4217348.html
I already invented this 15 years ago... (not joking)
jdd
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Let's see... j d d ... hmmm, no, I cannot figure out how Al Gore can be initialized by JDD.
(But of course, I AM joking)
That old chestnut? Here's what Gore actually said: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.... "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system." Yeah, he was boasting. No, he wasn't pretending he invented it. The idea that he did is the real invention. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 June 2007 09:01, Stevens wrote:
Take a look at this and you'll start to understand what our great grandchildren will grow up with and think of as normal.
Or, "Practical Applications For Eye Candy"
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4217348.html
I envision (no pun intended) several problems with this. 1. Some of us have a limited eye focusing distance, and could never see the far side of the table clearly, without standing up and leaning over it. 2. You couldn't put anything down on the table, which is what people usually do with tables, without making part of its function unusable. (Except digital cameras and iPods [oops!] and wireless phones.) I would also think it might be a bad idea to spill a drink on it. 3. Many of us dislike the "move-your-finger" mouse-pads on laptops. This would be a giant version of that. (I personally dislike moving mice as well; I use track-balls [Kensington]). There are probably other gotchas, but this is a first shot. PS: I still think nobody would actually read an OT list. This is at least partially a technology list, and I wouldn't have it any other way. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
There are of course useful things for this.... 1. Young children could add items to the table and hear / learn the pronunciation of the objects name. 2. In a similar vain, using a pen they could complete their homework on the table and have it transmitted direct to the class teacher for marking without the needs for additional hardware or paper etc. 3. Putting a glass of beer on the table could result in it's temperature being broadcast every 2 Degree's change in temperature - always drink at the optimum! 4. Ditto for food. 5. If the table was hinged you could flip it through 90Degrees and use it as a TV that you could throw soft balls at when something happened you don't like and have the channel changed. Soft ball hits could be fed back to the TV channel for instant feedback. 6. A couple of joysticks on each end and you could have one of those 1980's style tennis table breakout games. I'm warming to MIcrosoft.... :-) Phil On Monday 11 June 2007 22:51:41 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 09:01, Stevens wrote:
Take a look at this and you'll start to understand what our great grandchildren will grow up with and think of as normal.
Or, "Practical Applications For Eye Candy"
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4217348.html
I envision (no pun intended) several problems with this.
1. Some of us have a limited eye focusing distance, and could never see the far side of the table clearly, without standing up and leaning over it.
2. You couldn't put anything down on the table, which is what people usually do with tables, without making part of its function unusable. (Except digital cameras and iPods [oops!] and wireless phones.) I would also think it might be a bad idea to spill a drink on it.
3. Many of us dislike the "move-your-finger" mouse-pads on laptops. This would be a giant version of that. (I personally dislike moving mice as well; I use track-balls [Kensington]).
There are probably other gotchas, but this is a first shot.
PS: I still think nobody would actually read an OT list. This is at least partially a technology list, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
--doug
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Phil Burness wrote:
There are of course useful things for this.... 1. Young children could add items to the table and hear / learn the pronunciation of the objects name. 2. In a similar vain, using a pen they could complete their homework on the table and have it transmitted direct to the class teacher for marking without the needs for additional hardware or paper etc. 3. Putting a glass of beer on the table could result in it's temperature being broadcast every 2 Degree's change in temperature - always drink at the optimum! 4. Ditto for food. 5. If the table was hinged you could flip it through 90Degrees and use it as a TV that you could throw soft balls at when something happened you don't like and have the channel changed. Soft ball hits could be fed back to the TV channel for instant feedback. 6. A couple of joysticks on each end and you could have one of those 1980's style tennis table breakout games.
I'm warming to MIcrosoft.... :-)
Phil
On Monday 11 June 2007 22:51:41 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 09:01, Stevens wrote:
Take a look at this and you'll start to understand what our great grandchildren will grow up with and think of as normal.
Or, "Practical Applications For Eye Candy"
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4217348.html
I envision (no pun intended) several problems with this.
1. Some of us have a limited eye focusing distance, and could never see the far side of the table clearly, without standing up and leaning over it.
2. You couldn't put anything down on the table, which is what people usually do with tables, without making part of its function unusable. (Except digital cameras and iPods [oops!] and wireless phones.) I would also think it might be a bad idea to spill a drink on it.
3. Many of us dislike the "move-your-finger" mouse-pads on laptops. This would be a giant version of that. (I personally dislike moving mice as well; I use track-balls [Kensington]).
There are probably other gotchas, but this is a first shot.
PS: I still think nobody would actually read an OT list. This is at least partially a technology list, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
--doug
Or you could just play one heck of a game of pong! ;) Or is this table an upgrade of the tablet? :) I actually don't see MS making this work easily at all. Automatically find and install the right driver for the camera you place on it. Ha! They can't make that work in XP now. If they did on V 1, or 2, or 3.0 I'd be surprised... JF -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 June 2007 16:51, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I envision (no pun intended) several problems with this. <snip>
Folks do not want to be strapped to a desktop... or table top... period. Only Micro$tupid would think up something like this... ... the work that is being done to communicate with a system using alpha waves, eye contact, speech recognition, and the like.... will fly. I don't want to touch it. I'll talk to it, think it, look at it... ok... but touch it ( a table top ? ) no way. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2007-06-11 15:51, Doug McGarrett wrote:
<snip> 2. You couldn't put anything down on the table, which is what people usually do with tables, without making part of its function unusable.
Unless you can just put the whiskey and soda bottles on the table and it will mix the drinks -- maybe that's planned for a future version. :-) -- Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue. -- François de La Rochefoucauld -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2007-06-11 15:51, Doug McGarrett wrote:
<snip> 2. You couldn't put anything down on the table, which is what people usually do with tables, without making part of its function unusable.
Unless you can just put the whiskey and soda bottles on the table and it will mix the drinks -- maybe that's planned for a future version. :-)
Bill has declared that you've been using the table incorrectly for all these years. Fortunately, you can buy his software/hardware and now use the table correctly for just a small fee. -- Tony Alfrey tonyalfrey@earthlink.net "I'd Rather Be Sailing" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 June 2007 20:27, Tony Alfrey wrote:
Fortunately, you can buy his software/hardware and now use the table correctly for just a small fee. ... and for an annual slightly exorbitant table-tax, you may choose to upgrade your table to the next version every five(5) years or so.... failure to do so will result in everything you place on the table (or within five feet of it) permanently disappearing into the ether.
And pay no attention at all to those open tables you see over there in the other booth... they are no good at all and if you use them something bad will happen to you or your children... and we wouldn't want that to happen 'cause we whole interoperable families to gather round our table at meal time. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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