How can hidden menu items be displayed on start applications? TIA. LW999
On Saturday 01 November 2003 18:12, LinuxWorld999 wrote:
How can hidden menu items be displayed on start applications?
How about unhiding them via the Menu-Editor? Right-click on the KMenu-Button, choose the Editor (open the SuSE-Menu tree if you use that), find the items you wish to see and click the unhide button in the toolbar. Hansen -- Powered by SuSE 8.1pro - KDE 3.0.3 - KMail 1.4.3 At least, try asking smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Netiquette is easy: http://learn.to/edit_messages ...and you'll get flame-free answers in no time.
On Sunday 02 November 2003 17:33, Johannes Liedtke wrote:
On Saturday 01 November 2003 18:12, LinuxWorld999 wrote:
How can hidden menu items be displayed on start applications?
How about unhiding them via the Menu-Editor? Right-click on the KMenu-Button, choose the Editor (open the SuSE-Menu tree if you use that), find the items you wish to see and click the unhide button in the toolbar.
Hansen
<SNIP> Right clicking and selecting the menu-editor, there isn't an unhide button on the toolbar. Is there a setting missing perhaps?
Op zondag 2 november 2003 19:48, schreef LinuxWorld999:
On Sunday 02 November 2003 17:33, Johannes Liedtke wrote:
On Saturday 01 November 2003 18:12, LinuxWorld999 wrote:
How can hidden menu items be displayed on start applications?
How about unhiding them via the Menu-Editor? Right-click on the KMenu-Button, choose the Editor (open the SuSE-Menu tree if you use that), find the items you wish to see and click the unhide button in the toolbar.
Hansen
<SNIP>
Right clicking and selecting the menu-editor, there isn't an unhide button on the toolbar.
Is there a setting missing perhaps?
I'm puzzled by this one as well. If I open kmenuedit there are a whole bunch of applications that are not shown in kmenu. Kmenu used to be a representation of the directory /opt/kde3/share/applnk, but it seems different now. In suse-9 there is e.g. /opt/kde3/share/applnk/Applications/ korganizer.desktop, but korganizer does not appear in any of kmenu's submenu's, even not in kmenuedit. On the other hand kmenuedit shows menu entries for the submenu Applications but none of these are show in kmenu. How does kmenu work nowadays?? -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
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I'm puzzled by this one as well. If I open kmenuedit there are a whole bunch of applications that are not shown in kmenu. Kmenu used to be a representation of the directory /opt/kde3/share/applnk, but it seems different now. In suse-9 there is e.g. /opt/kde3/share/applnk/Applications/ korganizer.desktop, but korganizer does not appear in any of kmenu's submenu's, even not in kmenuedit. On the other hand kmenuedit shows menu entries for the submenu Applications but none of these are show in kmenu.
How does kmenu work nowadays??
IIANM, as it has for some time. I am still with 8.1 and if you: ControlCenter -> Look & Feel -> Menu settings you should find options for: * SuSE menu * Standard KDE menu and (add extra menus to panel) * SuSE menu * Work menu for fast access * Administrator menu gud luk, -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org
On Sunday 02 November 2003 07:08 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
IIANM, as it has for some time. I am still with 8.1 and if you:
ControlCenter -> Look & Feel -> Menu settings
you should find options for:
* SuSE menu * Standard KDE menu
and (add extra menus to panel)
* SuSE menu * Work menu for fast access * Administrator menu
nope, not any more... in (IM0 they sem to have gone the way of the dodo bird. There isn't a choice of "either or" nor is the SuSE menu that was anywhere to be found, tho I suspect they are on the CDs/DVDs *somewhere* <mumbles> I could have sworn I saw Korganizer tho .. maybe it's had a namechange to go along w/ a new life ??? Naaaaah ! j
On Sunday, 02 November, 2003 16:08, Patrick Shanahan wrote: <snip>
ControlCenter -> Look & Feel -> Menu settings
you should find options for:
* SuSE menu * Standard KDE menu
and (add extra menus to panel)
* SuSE menu * Work menu for fast access * Administrator menu
I'm going to add what Patrick said a bit. First of all, if you follow the above suggestion, yet choose ONLY the "Standard KDE menu", this will add ALL the menu items to "Start Applications" that are NOT hidden in KMenu. The other 3 items add ONLY to the panel. Then right click on the "Start Applications" icon on the panel and open Menu Editor. In KMenu Editor, go to the menu item at the top of the open window named "Settings" (not the Settings in the list of menu items). Click on "Show Hidden Items". It's as simple as that. Now ALL of the contents of KMenu will show in "Start Applications". Keep in mind that this is a per user fix. If you need further help, or if this isn't working for you, let me know. I've been working with this extensively over the last week. I wanted to eliminate potential 'problem' areas from the menu for my wife and son. I customized their menus to quickly show them what they need to see and use, games and music for my son, and word processing and internet for my wife. Obviously if they dig further they can change it back, but it works for now. Bernd -- "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." Antoine de St. Exupery
On Monday 03 November 2003 8:54 pm, Bernd wrote:
On Sunday, 02 November, 2003 16:08, Patrick Shanahan wrote: <snip>
ControlCenter -> Look & Feel -> Menu settings
you should find options for:
* SuSE menu * Standard KDE menu
and (add extra menus to panel)
* SuSE menu * Work menu for fast access * Administrator menu
I'm going to add what Patrick said a bit.
First of all, if you follow the above suggestion, yet choose ONLY the "Standard KDE menu", this will add ALL the menu items to "Start Applications" that are NOT hidden in KMenu. The other 3 items add ONLY to the panel.
Then right click on the "Start Applications" icon on the panel and open Menu Editor.
In KMenu Editor, go to the menu item at the top of the open window named "Settings" (not the Settings in the list of menu items). Click on "Show Hidden Items".
It's as simple as that. Now ALL of the contents of KMenu will show in "Start Applications".
Keep in mind that this is a per user fix.
If you need further help, or if this isn't working for you, let me know. I've been working with this extensively over the last week. I wanted to eliminate potential 'problem' areas from the menu for my wife and son. I customized their menus to quickly show them what they need to see and use, games and music for my son, and word processing and internet for my wife. Obviously if they dig further they can change it back, but it works for now.
Bernd
That "Show Hidden Items" is no longer in 9.0's Kmenu Editor. The menu system has changed for 9.0 in preparation for KDE 3.2's XDG menu system. The Control Center, Look & Feel, Menu Settings are gone too in 9.0. This is one area where we need to specify 9.0 versus 8.2 and earlier. Otherwise it gets very confusing. Thanks, Stan
On Sunday 02 November 2003 5:07 pm, Richard Bos wrote:
Op zondag 2 november 2003 19:48, schreef LinuxWorld999:
On Sunday 02 November 2003 17:33, Johannes Liedtke wrote:
On Saturday 01 November 2003 18:12, LinuxWorld999 wrote:
How can hidden menu items be displayed on start applications?
How about unhiding them via the Menu-Editor? Right-click on the KMenu-Button, choose the Editor (open the SuSE-Menu tree if you use that), find the items you wish to see and click the unhide button in the toolbar.
Hansen
<SNIP>
Right clicking and selecting the menu-editor, there isn't an unhide button on the toolbar.
Is there a setting missing perhaps?
I'm puzzled by this one as well. If I open kmenuedit there are a whole bunch of applications that are not shown in kmenu. Kmenu used to be a representation of the directory /opt/kde3/share/applnk, but it seems different now. In suse-9 there is e.g. /opt/kde3/share/applnk/Applications/ korganizer.desktop, but korganizer does not appear in any of kmenu's submenu's, even not in kmenuedit. On the other hand kmenuedit shows menu entries for the submenu Applications but none of these are show in kmenu.
How does kmenu work nowadays??
If you figure it out, let me know - will ya?! There's NO WAY to get all of the entries in kmenu to show up, that I've found! Fred -- "...Linux, MS-DOS, and Windows XP (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly)."
Well, recently, i've been messing with my KDE menu once again, and here iswhat i have found. they do not use the ususal menu structure as a set of .desktop files in Directories. Instead, they use special XML schemas that define the menu structure. -- look at XML files in your /opt/kde3/share/applnk (they are named as .menu) which use those .desktop files and you have your local menu definition in ~/.config/menu/ which is edited when you call KDE menu editor. somhow it can honor the entries in your ~/.kde/share/applnk entries, i think it happens during your login. BTW: if you have problems, kill your ~/.kde/tmp-*/sycoca, and relogin. i noticed that it helps sometimes. All the above is going to be defualt in KDE 3.2, i believe, SuSE 9.1, whenever it will be out. BTW: GNOME uses the same menu entries! On Monday 03 November 2003 08:51, Fred Miller wrote:
On Sunday 02 November 2003 5:07 pm, Richard Bos wrote:
Op zondag 2 november 2003 19:48, schreef LinuxWorld999:
On Sunday 02 November 2003 17:33, Johannes Liedtke wrote:
On Saturday 01 November 2003 18:12, LinuxWorld999 wrote:
How can hidden menu items be displayed on start applications?
How about unhiding them via the Menu-Editor? Right-click on the KMenu-Button, choose the Editor (open the SuSE-Menu tree if you use that), find the items you wish to see and click the unhide button in the toolbar.
Hansen
<SNIP>
Right clicking and selecting the menu-editor, there isn't an unhide button on the toolbar.
Is there a setting missing perhaps?
I'm puzzled by this one as well. If I open kmenuedit there are a whole bunch of applications that are not shown in kmenu. Kmenu used to be a representation of the directory /opt/kde3/share/applnk, but it seems different now. In suse-9 there is e.g. /opt/kde3/share/applnk/Applications/ korganizer.desktop, but korganizer does not appear in any of kmenu's submenu's, even not in kmenuedit. On the other hand kmenuedit shows menu entries for the submenu Applications but none of these are show in kmenu.
How does kmenu work nowadays??
If you figure it out, let me know - will ya?! There's NO WAY to get all of the entries in kmenu to show up, that I've found!
Fred
-- "...Linux, MS-DOS, and Windows XP (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly)."
And I quote from the SUSE 9.0 Release Notes: "XDG Menu Structure As of version 9.0, the menu system of KDE and Gnome is based on the XDG standard. The configuration files are distributed to fewer directories. Administrators can easily adapt the menu structure for their users by editing the XML file /etc/xdg/menus/application.menu. The new structure is the result of a backport from the upcoming KDE version 3.2. The included KDE version features XDG support, which was backported from KDE 3.2. Furthermore, menu branches are automatically condensed if a submenu only contains one entry. This characteristic can be deactivated with /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/ kickerrc:ReduceMenuDepth." What I did to get all of my menu entries to show again was what Vitaly suggests: "BTW: if you have problems, kill your ~/.kde/tmp-*/sycoca, and relogin. i noticed that it helps sometimes. " Or the radical alternative is to delete in /tmp all your userid settings, relogin and start messing with your menus. Same difference. Grand idea to unify all menus within Linux. We have to have this so switching window managers is more painless. I see it as a must have to ease the transition from Windows or Gnome or KDE or Fvwm to whichever. Just have to work the bugs out. Such as the one where if there is only one entry in a sub-menu it gets collapsed to the next higher menu level as a single menu entry. It inherits the name of the sub-menu heading instead of the menu entry. Personal nit to pick perhaps. Stan
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Bernd -
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LinuxWorld999 -
Patrick Shanahan -
Richard Bos -
Stan Glasoe -
Vitaly Shishakov