-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Felix Miata wrote:

On 2008/05/30 04:25 (GMT-0400) Martin Schmidkunz apparently typed:

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the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys

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Big thanks to all of you who took the time in participating! Your answers were very helpful!

I expected the results format to be compatible with the survey format, designed to be used online rather than printed. :-( I'll remember that next time I'm asked to complete a SUSE survey. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030714.html

What is possibly more of an issue is that the report is really just a unconnected set of numbers and as such says little. Is an analysis of the results going to be published? What have been more interesting and useful would be to at least have a breakdown of responses against perceived levels of expertise. (There are other tests that can be applied but they would probably confuse most people rather than enlighten them). - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIP9VhasN0sSnLmgIRAuQKAKD27wISpxCcr91HnnwqAfiqFFKAZwCfROP+ cPd31QGvq5WSOeJ7vUMKwfU= =/g6A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-06-01 at 11:25 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:

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Hi everybody,

the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys

Only 86.7% have a / (root) partition - I wonder how the rest manage?

ROTFL! X'-) Maybe using... windows? X'-) Shows how reliable surveys are. How is that measured, 14% failure? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIQnXztTMYHG2NR9URAgWGAJ9TQ+n/u67p3T7wC39hrfaRUTuajwCgjxFB Yuo2B5fJgjdZ3mNCXxrh8Mo= =v5RQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 01 June 2008 08:40:59 am Ken Schneider wrote:

Per Jessen pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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Martin Schmidkunz wrote:

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Hi everybody,

the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys

Only 86.7% have a / (root) partition - I wonder how the rest manage?

/Per Jessen, Zürich

Yes, and the other 13.3% can't boot their machines. Every machine *must* have a / (root) filesystem.

Ah yes! I don't have a /root (dedicated -real) partition but I DO have a /root (filesystem) It sits right there in / Maybe that is what they are talking about? Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Martin Schmidkunz wrote:

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Hi everybody,

the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys

Only 86.7% have a / (root) partition - I wonder how the rest manage?

/Per Jessen, Zürich

Jokes aside.. Unfortunately, as this is just raw data not information, there is no way from the way the results are presented that it can demonstrated that this due to a flaw in survey design (which a similar result across all levels of experience would be a strong indicator for) or an issue with less (or possibly more :-) ) experienced users perception of the concepts involved or questions being asked. All this is really telling is that people participated in the survey... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIQ7IsasN0sSnLmgIRAnFcAKDXAFTKFQjAAsIKxfwT/KbSXkKKowCg8vwY HKXdsc5ztqS81QKS+emYRfc= =lXU5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Larry Stotler wrote:

How about a survey about memory? There was just a big debate over it in another thread, and I for one would be interested to see How much RAM and what type people use. Something that would allow you to list up to 5 different machines and the memory type. ie:

You could set up one yourself on surveymonkey.com. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David Bolt wrote:

On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Per Jessen wrote:-

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Larry Stotler wrote:

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How about a survey about memory? There was just a big debate over it in another thread, and I for one would be interested to see How much RAM and what type people use. Something that would allow you to list up to 5 different machines and the memory type. ie:

You could set up one yourself on surveymonkey.com.

If he does, I hope he doesn't limit it to only 5 machines. There are probably people that have more than 5 different systems, with quite difference specifications, and limiting it to 5 would mean picking and choosing between them.

If it's a survey about memory, I think the machine spec should be left out of it entirely. Otherwise you're right - I also have a number of different memory configs, ranging from 24Mb EDO to 16Gb ECC. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-06-08 at 23:47 -0700, John Andersen wrote:

Wouldn't an automated survey be more useful, accurate, etc?

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Hey people, I agree with John. Why not make surveys about hardware and openSUSE? Its so important to view in a site the best compatible hardware with openSUSE. Maybe a link on users Desktop called "Compatibility Survey" which makes a database on a webpage of openSUSE wiki to people search most common problems and solutions. Maybe this link could have a script to send a lspci output to openSUSE Compatbility System. Why not? Cheers. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:39 PM, John Andersen wrote:

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The Sunday 2008-06-08 at 23:47 -0700, John Andersen wrote:

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Wouldn't an automated survey be more useful, accurate, etc?

Yes.

But I wonder if they thought it would be considered intrusive?

Check box to Opt in. Log and Display of all transmitted data.

Problem solved.

NOTE: Suse USED to have this. I swear.

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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 2:47 AM, John Andersen wrote:

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Larry Stotler wrote:

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How about a survey about memory? There was just a big debate over it in another thread, and I for one would be interested to see How much RAM and what type people use. Other than a point of interest what purpose would this serve?

Well, since more and more people are using over a Gig(and I am one in 1 system), but a lot of us are still using older systems that have a lot of life left that only have 128-512MB RAM. It would be nice to see exactly how much demand there is for optimizing for slower systems. I for one don't like having stuff running that wastes resources like beagle and stuff. For those that want/need it fine, but for those of us who have limited resources, then a lower end optimization would be great. Kinda like the stuff they tried awhile back like SUPER and stuff.

How about a survey that can affect the future path of OpenSuse?

Why not survey wireless network cards (working or not working) usb devices Video Cards DVD/HD/BlueRay drives

These things have an impact on where Linux users would want time and effort of the developer's spent?

Come to think of it, what happened to the automated hardware survey that Suse used to have, and Ubuntu still does have.

Where did all those results go?

No idea, but I agree, it would be nice to see where we stand on these issues. Having almost all networking removed because I deselected the fingerprint reader was very irriatating. Or having to install support for Irda(Have NEVER used it), firewire(have had it, NEVER used it), etc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org