[opensuse] results of hard disk configuration survey
Hi everybody, the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys Big thanks to all of you who took the time in participating! Your answers were very helpful! Have a lot of fun, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz@novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/05/30 04:25 (GMT-0400) Martin Schmidkunz apparently typed:
the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys
Big thanks to all of you who took the time in participating! Your answers were very helpful!
I expected the results format to be compatible with the survey format, designed to be used online rather than printed. :-( I'll remember that next time I'm asked to complete a SUSE survey. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030714.html -- ". . . . in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you . . . ." Matthew 7:12 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On 2008/05/30 04:25 (GMT-0400) Martin Schmidkunz apparently typed:
the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys
Big thanks to all of you who took the time in participating! Your answers were very helpful!
I expected the results format to be compatible with the survey format, designed to be used online rather than printed. :-( I'll remember that next time I'm asked to complete a SUSE survey. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030714.html
What is possibly more of an issue is that the report is really just a unconnected set of numbers and as such says little. Is an analysis of the results going to be published? What have been more interesting and useful would be to at least have a breakdown of responses against perceived levels of expertise. (There are other tests that can be applied but they would probably confuse most people rather than enlighten them). - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIP9VhasN0sSnLmgIRAuQKAKD27wISpxCcr91HnnwqAfiqFFKAZwCfROP+ cPd31QGvq5WSOeJ7vUMKwfU= =/g6A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Martin Schmidkunz wrote:
Hi everybody,
the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys
Only 86.7% have a / (root) partition - I wonder how the rest manage? /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-06-01 at 11:25 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Hi everybody,
the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys
Only 86.7% have a / (root) partition - I wonder how the rest manage?
ROTFL! X'-) Maybe using... windows? X'-) Shows how reliable surveys are. How is that measured, 14% failure? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIQnXztTMYHG2NR9URAgWGAJ9TQ+n/u67p3T7wC39hrfaRUTuajwCgjxFB Yuo2B5fJgjdZ3mNCXxrh8Mo= =v5RQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Martin Schmidkunz wrote:
Hi everybody,
the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys
Only 86.7% have a / (root) partition - I wonder how the rest manage?
/Per Jessen, Zürich
Yes, and the other 13.3% can't boot their machines. Every machine *must* have a / (root) filesystem. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 01 June 2008 08:40:59 am Ken Schneider wrote:
Per Jessen pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Martin Schmidkunz wrote:
Hi everybody,
the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys
Only 86.7% have a / (root) partition - I wonder how the rest manage?
/Per Jessen, Zürich
Yes, and the other 13.3% can't boot their machines. Every machine *must* have a / (root) filesystem.
Ah yes! I don't have a /root (dedicated -real) partition but I DO have a /root (filesystem) It sits right there in / Maybe that is what they are talking about? Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 01 June 2008 04:25:19 am Per Jessen wrote:
Martin Schmidkunz wrote:
Hi everybody,
the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys
Only 86.7% have a / (root) partition - I wonder how the rest manage?
/Per Jessen, Zürich
The question was: "Which partition do you create.?" If you accept defaults, installer creates them for you, but if 86.7% must create / (root) by themselves, installer proposals are not exactly good ;-) I do have to resort to manual intervention very often as partitioning proposals on systems with more than windows installed are sometimes wild guess, but that is what I complained before (and I'm tired to do that again). Probably better questions would be: "What directories you have on separate partitions?" "How they were created?" Put that in 2 columns where rows are assigned to directories, with few empty fields for not so common choices, first column for the checkmark if you have separate mount, and the second column will give answer how they are created, by the system installer, or by user. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Per Jessen wrote:
Martin Schmidkunz wrote:
Hi everybody,
the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys
Only 86.7% have a / (root) partition - I wonder how the rest manage?
/Per Jessen, Zürich
Jokes aside.. Unfortunately, as this is just raw data not information, there is no way from the way the results are presented that it can demonstrated that this due to a flaw in survey design (which a similar result across all levels of experience would be a strong indicator for) or an issue with less (or possibly more :-) ) experienced users perception of the concepts involved or questions being asked. All this is really telling is that people participated in the survey... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIQ7IsasN0sSnLmgIRAnFcAKDXAFTKFQjAAsIKxfwT/KbSXkKKowCg8vwY HKXdsc5ztqS81QKS+emYRfc= =lXU5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Martin Schmidkunz <mschmidkunz@suse.de> wrote:
the results of the hard disk configuration survey are available at http://en.opensuse.org/UX#View_results_of_previous_surveys
How about a survey about memory? There was just a big debate over it in another thread, and I for one would be interested to see How much RAM and what type people use. Something that would allow you to list up to 5 different machines and the memory type. ie: Workstation - Dual Xeon 500Mhz, 512MB PC100 Registered ECC SRAM Laptop - P3/500, 384MB PC100 SDRAM Laptop - G3/266 384MB PC66 SDRAM Desktop - DC Celeron E1200(clocked at 3.2Ghz) 2GB DDR2-800 @ 1Ghz. etc..... Just a suggestion. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Larry Stotler wrote:
How about a survey about memory? There was just a big debate over it in another thread, and I for one would be interested to see How much RAM and what type people use. Something that would allow you to list up to 5 different machines and the memory type. ie:
You could set up one yourself on surveymonkey.com. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Per Jessen wrote:-
Larry Stotler wrote:
How about a survey about memory? There was just a big debate over it in another thread, and I for one would be interested to see How much RAM and what type people use. Something that would allow you to list up to 5 different machines and the memory type. ie:
You could set up one yourself on surveymonkey.com.
If he does, I hope he doesn't limit it to only 5 machines. There are probably people that have more than 5 different systems, with quite difference specifications, and limiting it to 5 would mean picking and choosing between them. In my case, as you can see from my .sig, I have at least 6 PC class systems, and a G3/333 PPC. There are another 4 systems that aren't listed partly because there's not enough space, partly because they're still running an EOL'd[0] version, or because they're running a version that's already listed. [0] A laptop with no CD drive, no built-in network adapter, and only 160MiB RAM, still running SuSE 9.1 quite fast enough despite only having a P2-300 processor. It would have been SuSE 9.2 but that made it incredibly sluggish although a short investigation never showed the reason for it. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-P2 @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~15Mkeys SUSE 10.1 32bit | | openSUSE 10.3 32bit | openSUSE 11.0RC1 SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit | openSUSE 10.3 64bit RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 10.3 PPC | RISC OS 3.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David Bolt wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Per Jessen wrote:-
Larry Stotler wrote:
How about a survey about memory? There was just a big debate over it in another thread, and I for one would be interested to see How much RAM and what type people use. Something that would allow you to list up to 5 different machines and the memory type. ie:
You could set up one yourself on surveymonkey.com.
If he does, I hope he doesn't limit it to only 5 machines. There are probably people that have more than 5 different systems, with quite difference specifications, and limiting it to 5 would mean picking and choosing between them.
If it's a survey about memory, I think the machine spec should be left out of it entirely. Otherwise you're right - I also have a number of different memory configs, ranging from 24Mb EDO to 16Gb ECC. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Larry Stotler wrote:
How about a survey about memory? There was just a big debate over it in another thread, and I for one would be interested to see How much RAM and what type people use.
Other than a point of interest what purpose would this serve? How about a survey that can affect the future path of OpenSuse? Why not survey wireless network cards (working or not working) usb devices Video Cards DVD/HD/BlueRay drives These things have an impact on where Linux users would want time and effort of the developer's spent? Come to think of it, what happened to the automated hardware survey that Suse used to have, and Ubuntu still does have. Where did all those results go? Wouldn't an automated survey be more useful, accurate, etc? -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-06-08 at 23:47 -0700, John Andersen wrote:
Wouldn't an automated survey be more useful, accurate, etc?
Yes. But I wonder if they thought it would be considered intrusive? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFITQYktTMYHG2NR9URAoSzAJ0XlxkaTwJrcpK0pHRVPsOTImx5EgCeMGkw uBvKuxmGlVSmvwL5VvjazUo= =fs18 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:29 AM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
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The Sunday 2008-06-08 at 23:47 -0700, John Andersen wrote:
Wouldn't an automated survey be more useful, accurate, etc?
Yes.
But I wonder if they thought it would be considered intrusive?
Check box to Opt in. Log and Display of all transmitted data. Problem solved. NOTE: Suse USED to have this. I swear. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hey people, I agree with John. Why not make surveys about hardware and openSUSE? Its so important to view in a site the best compatible hardware with openSUSE. Maybe a link on users Desktop called "Compatibility Survey" which makes a database on a webpage of openSUSE wiki to people search most common problems and solutions. Maybe this link could have a script to send a lspci output to openSUSE Compatbility System. Why not? Cheers. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:39 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:29 AM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
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The Sunday 2008-06-08 at 23:47 -0700, John Andersen wrote:
Wouldn't an automated survey be more useful, accurate, etc?
Yes.
But I wonder if they thought it would be considered intrusive?
Check box to Opt in. Log and Display of all transmitted data.
Problem solved.
NOTE: Suse USED to have this. I swear.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2008-06-09 at 12:39 -0700, John Andersen wrote:
NOTE: Suse USED to have this. I swear.
No need to sear, I remember it. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFITY7YtTMYHG2NR9URArUHAJsEabnZZGblV2FsDqpslKWvfUUIkQCdFOXX rf+0Kg+maVtwZ4I9U7mOMFE= =aAQx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 2:47 AM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
Larry Stotler wrote:
How about a survey about memory? There was just a big debate over it in another thread, and I for one would be interested to see How much RAM and what type people use. Other than a point of interest what purpose would this serve?
Well, since more and more people are using over a Gig(and I am one in 1 system), but a lot of us are still using older systems that have a lot of life left that only have 128-512MB RAM. It would be nice to see exactly how much demand there is for optimizing for slower systems. I for one don't like having stuff running that wastes resources like beagle and stuff. For those that want/need it fine, but for those of us who have limited resources, then a lower end optimization would be great. Kinda like the stuff they tried awhile back like SUPER and stuff.
How about a survey that can affect the future path of OpenSuse?
Why not survey wireless network cards (working or not working) usb devices Video Cards DVD/HD/BlueRay drives
These things have an impact on where Linux users would want time and effort of the developer's spent?
Come to think of it, what happened to the automated hardware survey that Suse used to have, and Ubuntu still does have.
Where did all those results go?
No idea, but I agree, it would be nice to see where we stand on these issues. Having almost all networking removed because I deselected the fingerprint reader was very irriatating. Or having to install support for Irda(Have NEVER used it), firewire(have had it, NEVER used it), etc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 June 2008 03:07:37 pm Larry Stotler wrote:
Kinda like the stuff they tried awhile back like SUPER and stuff.
That stuff is mostly in official openSUSE. The optimization for smaller systems has to be included to cover currently sold small systems like eepc. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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