[opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw. Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it. M -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
mukul wrote:
After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu.
I've tried ubuntu, and it's OK, but I'm still primarily a suse user, on the desktop and in the data center. mandriva, well last I looked at it, it struck me as cute, but flaky. YMMV though.
A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw.
That "last straw" thing sounds a bit melodramatic. Oddly enough, I don't recognize your email address at all, perhaps you posted questions under a different account? In any case, problems are universal, given the combination of flaky hardware and beta software that is usually the lot of those on the bleeding edge. I don't know what to suggest, other than get good hardware, and use only mature distros - perhaps SLED would have been a better choice for you, but if not, have fun with ubuntu or whatever.
Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it.
Good luck to you! Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that. M -----Original Message----- From: Sloan [mailto:joe@tmsusa.com] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 10:31 AM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse... mukul wrote:
After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu.
I've tried ubuntu, and it's OK, but I'm still primarily a suse user, on the desktop and in the data center. mandriva, well last I looked at it, it struck me as cute, but flaky. YMMV though.
A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw.
That "last straw" thing sounds a bit melodramatic. Oddly enough, I don't recognize your email address at all, perhaps you posted questions under a different account? In any case, problems are universal, given the combination of flaky hardware and beta software that is usually the lot of those on the bleeding edge. I don't know what to suggest, other than get good hardware, and use only mature distros - perhaps SLED would have been a better choice for you, but if not, have fun with ubuntu or whatever.
Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it.
Good luck to you! Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 10:49 +1100, mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
M
What was pushed out yesterday that could possibly have done that? I had several updates yesterday. Went smoothly without a blip. Mouse still works. -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 02 November 2007 00:49:29 mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
There was no X related update yesterday. There was an X server update on october 24, I don't see anything later than that. Are you sure you didn't install an update from some other repository? Like an experimental X server from the build service? What does rpm -qa --last|head say? Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
No. I don't think I have subscribed to any of the experimental stuff. Anyway, I am doing a clean install now and hope the things will be back to normal. M -----Original Message----- From: Anders Johansson [mailto:ajh@rydsbo.net] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 11:27 AM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse... On Friday 02 November 2007 00:49:29 mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
There was no X related update yesterday. There was an X server update on october 24, I don't see anything later than that. Are you sure you didn't install an update from some other repository? Like an experimental X server from the build service? What does rpm -qa --last|head say? Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
Well, then roll back to the previous version. Ubuntu and Mandriva use the same X server software, so if a patch used by SuSE is bad, it's going to be just as flaky on Mandriva and Ubuntu until the guys maintaining the X server fix it. The only other solution for you is to replace the X server with a commercial one....and that doesn't matter which distro you use. And there's no guarantee that a commercial product will be bug-free forever, either. Really, your reaction to this whole thing reminds me of a 3-year old throwing a temper tantrum because his wooden block tower fell over when he put another block on, and now it's the end of the world. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Well, if you can't help then it is fine. And what is with this lecturing? M PS : I have done a clean install now and will see how things go. -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Kulkis [mailto:akulkis00@hotpop.com] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 12:04 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse... mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
Well, then roll back to the previous version. Ubuntu and Mandriva use the same X server software, so if a patch used by SuSE is bad, it's going to be just as flaky on Mandriva and Ubuntu until the guys maintaining the X server fix it. The only other solution for you is to replace the X server with a commercial one....and that doesn't matter which distro you use. And there's no guarantee that a commercial product will be bug-free forever, either. Really, your reaction to this whole thing reminds me of a 3-year old throwing a temper tantrum because his wooden block tower fell over when he put another block on, and now it's the end of the world. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
mukul wrote:
Well, if you can't help then it is fine.
Excuse me, but pointing you in the direction you came from (i.e. a working system) isn't helping? It might not be the answer YOU WANTED, but it is a helpful answer. Sometimes the answer you want is not a helpful one. You need to understand that.
And what is with this lecturing?
Sometimes people need it.
M
PS : I have done a clean install now and will see how things go.
-----Original Message----- From: Aaron Kulkis [mailto:akulkis00@hotpop.com] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 12:04 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
Well, then roll back to the previous version.
Ubuntu and Mandriva use the same X server software, so if a patch used by SuSE is bad, it's going to be just as flaky on Mandriva and Ubuntu until the guys maintaining the X server fix it.
The only other solution for you is to replace the X server with a commercial one....and that doesn't matter which distro you use. And there's no guarantee that a commercial product will be bug-free forever, either.
Really, your reaction to this whole thing reminds me of a 3-year old throwing a temper tantrum because his wooden block tower fell over when he put another block on, and now it's the end of the world.
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Well, if you can't help then it is fine. And what is with this lecturing?
M
PS : I have done a clean install now and will see how things go.
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On Thursday 01 November 2007 16:49, mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
I smell something... Let's see....
From: "mukul"
First of all, you're upside-down. That's gotta count for one problem.
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11
Ahh, you're a Micosoft stooge. I see, complaing about openSUSE while using Outlook (any version) is *not* allowed. HTH! HAND Go back to comp.os.linux.advocacy... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I see... the mud slinging brigade is out now. Anyway, if your tiny lil ego gets inflated doing that, please go for it. Well, if it was not Microsoft, I would not have been able to post my messages to this mailing list. -----Original Message----- From: Kai Ponte [mailto:kai@perfectreign.com] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 3:48 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse... On Thursday 01 November 2007 16:49, mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
I smell something... Let's see....
From: "mukul"
First of all, you're upside-down. That's gotta count for one problem.
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11
Ahh, you're a Micosoft stooge. I see, complaing about openSUSE while using Outlook (any version) is *not* allowed. HTH! HAND Go back to comp.os.linux.advocacy... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 01 November 2007 21:50, mukul wrote <top posting corrected>
-----Original Message----- From: Kai Ponte [mailto:kai@perfectreign.com] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 3:48 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
On Thursday 01 November 2007 16:49, mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
I smell something...
Let's see....
From: "mukul"
First of all, you're upside-down. That's gotta count for one problem.
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11
Ahh, you're a Micosoft stooge. I see, complaing about openSUSE while using Outlook (any version) is *not* allowed.
HTH!
HAND
Go back to comp.os.linux.advocacy...
:
I see... the mud slinging brigade is out now. Anyway, if your tiny lil ego gets inflated doing that, please go for it.
Well, if it was not Microsoft, I would not have been able to post my messages to this mailing list.
Oh? Why not? Ever heard of Pine? I was using that before there was a wintendo. And just for the record - I use Windows, too - http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20071101_rdc_vista.jpg In fact I am working at the moment. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
yeah yeah... heard of pine. So what? If it is there does that mean I have to use it as well? I have two desktops and one of them runs windows. M Kai Ponte wrote:
On Thursday 01 November 2007 21:50, mukul wrote
<top posting corrected>
-----Original Message----- From: Kai Ponte [mailto:kai@perfectreign.com] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 3:48 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
On Thursday 01 November 2007 16:49, mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
I smell something...
Let's see....
From: "mukul"
First of all, you're upside-down. That's gotta count for one problem.
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11
Ahh, you're a Micosoft stooge. I see, complaing about openSUSE while using Outlook (any version) is *not* allowed.
HTH!
HAND
Go back to comp.os.linux.advocacy...
:
I see... the mud slinging brigade is out now. Anyway, if your tiny lil ego gets inflated doing that, please go for it.
Well, if it was not Microsoft, I would not have been able to post my messages to this mailing list.
Oh? Why not? Ever heard of Pine? I was using that before there was a wintendo.
And just for the record - I use Windows, too -
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20071101_rdc_vista.jpg
In fact I am working at the moment.
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yeah yeah... heard of pine. So what? If it is there does that mean I have to use it as well? I have two desktops and one of them runs windows.
Okay. That particular comment was not geared towards what OS you're running. You stated, if it was not for MS....however, although it's console based, pine is available for e-mail. They were more politely saying alternatives exist and it doesn't require X. K thanx. -- Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Calling someone MS stooge is not very polite isn't it? Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
yeah yeah... heard of pine. So what? If it is there does that mean I have to use it as well? I have two desktops and one of them runs windows.
Okay. That particular comment was not geared towards what OS you're running. You stated, if it was not for MS....however, although it's console based, pine is available for e-mail. They were more politely saying alternatives exist and it doesn't require X.
K thanx.
-- Mike
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On Friday 02 November 2007, Mukul Singh wrote:
yeah yeah... heard of pine. So what? If it is there does that mean I have to use it as well? I have two desktops and one of them runs windows.
M
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Thursday 01 November 2007 21:50, mukul wrote
<top posting corrected>
-----Original Message----- From: Kai Ponte [mailto:kai@perfectreign.com] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 3:48 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
On Thursday 01 November 2007 16:49, mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
I smell something...
Let's see....
From: "mukul"
First of all, you're upside-down. That's gotta count for one problem.
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11
Ahh, you're a Micosoft stooge. I see, complaing about openSUSE while using Outlook (any version) is *not* allowed.
HTH!
HAND
Go back to comp.os.linux.advocacy...
I see... the mud slinging brigade is out now. Anyway, if your tiny lil ego gets inflated doing that, please go for it.
Well, if it was not Microsoft, I would not have been able to post my messages to this mailing list.
Oh? Why not? Ever heard of Pine? I was using that before there was a wintendo.
And just for the record - I use Windows, too -
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20071101_rdc_vista.jpg
In fact I am working at the moment.
STOP TOP POSTING BOZO !!! ... there iv'e said it now .. Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
peter nikolic wrote:
On Friday 02 November 2007, Mukul Singh wrote:
yeah yeah... heard of pine. So what? If it is there does that mean I have to use it as well? I have two desktops and one of them runs windows.
M
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Thursday 01 November 2007 21:50, mukul wrote
<top posting corrected>
-----Original Message----- From: Kai Ponte [mailto:kai@perfectreign.com] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 3:48 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
On Thursday 01 November 2007 16:49, mukul wrote:
I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that.
I smell something...
Let's see....
From: "mukul"
First of all, you're upside-down. That's gotta count for one problem.
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11
Ahh, you're a Micosoft stooge. I see, complaing about openSUSE while using Outlook (any version) is *not* allowed.
HTH!
HAND
Go back to comp.os.linux.advocacy...
I see... the mud slinging brigade is out now. Anyway, if your tiny lil ego gets inflated doing that, please go for it.
Well, if it was not Microsoft, I would not have been able to post my messages to this mailing list.
Oh? Why not? Ever heard of Pine? I was using that before there was a wintendo.
And just for the record - I use Windows, too -
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20071101_rdc_vista.jpg
In fact I am working at the moment.
STOP TOP POSTING BOZO !!! ...
there iv'e said it now ..
Pete .
It is rather fortunate that I encountered the problem and posted on this forum. I now know that this list has its fair share of dickheads. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Kai Ponte wrote: Hi Kai, maybe slightly OT, but I really would like to know it....
And just for the record - I use Windows, too -
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20071101_rdc_vista.jpg
In fact I am working at the moment.
Your screen looks terific!!!! -How do you use Visio on your PC? Or is this a RDP connection to a windows machine, that is triggered by the vision icon on your desktop? -where did you get that wallpaper from? Thanks much for help and kind regards Eberhad -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ubuntu? Wow, unless OpenSUSE grabbed me by the head and punched me I wouldn't touch Ubuntu again. It's just Debian with a little bit different installer, a pain in the butt on root accounts becaue it wants to try something different, which is cool and all but makes learning UNIX harder for a newbie, and some slightly newer packages than Debian. I'll stick with these: Open SUSE, Slackware (Which we should all know, is what SUSE came from, it was just a German release of Slackware) and FreeBSD (which Slackware, again, is related to in a way). I also use XP Home, I gave it a little partition on my laptop and main desktop to play a few games where Linux still lacks, but is getting there faster and faster every year. I put Ubuntu on my test machine for a while to see why everyone went on and on about it, and didn't think it was more special than anything I already have, so I didn't stick with it, I did however give it a fair chance, and thought hey this has potential, so I left it on to test and just dual booted my test box with Slackware and Ubuntu. After like a week I removed it after realizing it wasn't anything better than Slackware or FreeBSD or SUSE / OpenSUSE. I've been a supporter of SUSE and it would take quite a lot for me to stop. When I got my first computer in late 1999, about a year later I hear about this Linux thing and wanted to learn more about it, so I looked into it. I thought Linux was awesome but I couldn't ever get online. My little crappy piece of crap soundcard / modem combo card wasn't supported at the time and all I had was dial up and of course no sound because it was a crap card. eventually I got high speed / cable and tried again with Mandrake 7.1 which was already old at the time, and still couldn't get online or get sound, so I'd once in a while reboot into Linux just to toy with it and learn about it. Well, right before SUSE 8.2 was released, it was December and I was at Best Buy doing some shopping and I wanted to pick up a newer version of Linux, so I was looking around and saw Mandrake on the shelf and SUSE. I hadn't heard of SUSE before and I knew what Mandrake was. The box was SUSE 8.1 Professional was so big and I wanted to know what could possibly be in there. So eventually I decided OK, I can't afford both because I'm also buying Partition Magic, so after walking around the store for an hour ro so I decided OK, I'm going to see what's in this huge box, and grabbed SUSE 8.1 Professional. I got in the car and we had to stop somewhere else on the way home. I stayed in the car watching the snow fall and couldn't take it anymore and opened it up. I looked inside and saw these stickers and thought "OK yea they're just stickers but damn that's cool!" and the big books it came with full if information and help and done VERY well, and this CD case that put the others to shame. I went home and started reading the books and thought "wow, these are actually good, these guys and girls at SUSE actually know how to write and make it easy to read without being boring, and they don't make this as a novelty, they make this as a way to use it as your only OS and how to make all that hardware actually work".. I eventually in early January, installed it. I hadn't seen an installer work so well before, and when I rebooted and loaded it up I was amazed how nice it looked. I opened a shell up and tried to ping expecting nothing because after all, no other version ever let me online, why would it? It didn't ping of course and I had forgotten to check something, and I'm like OK I'll check the card real quick but I doubt I'll get online... I realized I had made a mistake in the typing and tried again and to my amazement, I was able to ping. I was online with Linux for the very first time ever.... I was smiling, I could finally talk to my friends WHILE using Linux instead of having to reboot to get online in Windows 98 SE, and I was just so shocked it actually worked. I of course couldn't get sound working so I took the computer into Best Buy and had them install a Sound Blaster card, and boom I had sound. After that, I was hooked. I mean it's the distro that got me using Linux as more than just something to look at and show my cousin who thought it looked awesome, I could actually get online. From there, I became a HUGE SUSE fan boy, I mean this distro got me online, and I didn't even have to do anything! No messing with drivers, no nothing, and I had sound! So I reinstalled, gave a bigger partition to SUSE and more and more I stopped booting up Windows. When SUSE 8.2 Professional came out I went out that week and bought it, and again, told everyone else to buy it who used Linux. I still remember sitting on my computer at 5 AM not sleeping because I was finally online with Linux playing a CD and started learning how YAST2 worked and how amazed I was with what it could do compared to what I was used to. So needless to say, I learned Linux and UNIX on SUSE, wrote documentation for AntiOnline to show others you don't have to do all this configuration crap by hand and that plugging in a piece of hardware doesn't mean editing a file to make it work. And that just plugging something in, made it work. I know this is getting long but that's why I won't leave. It's the one distro I could count on to work out of the box. I'm typing this from my laptop where I can't get half the distros to work properly on it without tweaking. It's running OpenSUSE 10.2, no problems at all, and with the help of some people on this list I figured out a few small problems, and I just recorded my new album using it. My album took some hard work and A lot of my time, but I did it all myself, on OpenSUSE 10.2, with nothing but LMMS and vkeyboard. If you want to check it out look here: http://www.myspace.com/farmacyofhorror All that music was made on this laptop with OpenSUSE 10.2 and LMMS and another synth you can download from the repos on OpenSUSE, and a wave editor to splice a wav into the begining of one of the songs, all GPL software, and I made a full album with it. I burned the first 10 copies of it on Halloween and sell it for 7 dollars and once I have a paypal up I'll be selling it over the net so people can download it instead. So, thank you SUSE. -Allen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 02 November 2007 17:56:30 Allen wrote:
Ubuntu? Wow, unless OpenSUSE grabbed me by the head and punched me I wouldn't touch Ubuntu again.
But ubuntu just works right from the cd. You can install it in 15 minutes. It plays videos and mp3's and stuff I have on my ipod. That's what girls want. Unless you want a network I'd recommend it. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 02 November 2007 7:11 pm, primm wrote:
On Friday 02 November 2007 17:56:30 Allen wrote:
Ubuntu? Wow, unless OpenSUSE grabbed me by the head and punched me I wouldn't touch Ubuntu again.
But ubuntu just works right from the cd. You can install it in 15 minutes. It plays videos and mp3's and stuff I have on my ipod. That's what girls want. Unless you want a network I'd recommend it. L x
Lol that's not what girls want, the actual geek girls I know want Slackware or SUSE ;) My Wife for example, can't stand Ubuntu and LOVES Sun stuff and Slackware. -Allen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 03 November 2007 03:43:57 Allen wrote:
On Friday 02 November 2007 7:11 pm, primm wrote:
On Friday 02 November 2007 17:56:30 Allen wrote:
Ubuntu? Wow, unless OpenSUSE grabbed me by the head and punched me I wouldn't touch Ubuntu again.
But ubuntu just works right from the cd. You can install it in 15 minutes. It plays videos and mp3's and stuff I have on my ipod. That's what girls want. Unless you want a network I'd recommend it. L x
Lol that's not what girls want, the actual geek girls I know want Slackware or SUSE ;) My Wife for example, can't stand Ubuntu and LOVES Sun stuff and Slackware.
-Allen
Your wife wants flowers. She doesn't want Linux. Now pick up the 'phone, reserve a table for two at her favorite restaurante and have the flowers delivered between courses. Just go and do it. _Then_ get back to the list. Go on then. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
*Trim*
Your wife wants flowers. She doesn't want Linux. Now pick up the 'phone, reserve a table for two at her favorite restaurante and have the flowers delivered between courses. Just go and do it. _Then_ get back to the list. Go on then. L x
Oddly enough She doesn't want flowers. I was going to buy Her some Roses one day, and She didn't want them. The dinner part yes, but flowers no, however, She also would rather have ME cook. I'm actually a pretty good cook and She LOVES when I make dinner, which is almost every night. I usually just come up with something on the spot that way I don't think to hard about it and let the natural God Given talent take over instead of planning. Like when I make stir fry for us for dinner, She Loves it. I make the sauce, mix the spices by hand, and cook it all up, and shape the rice on Her plate like a Heart and put it on top of that which sweeps Her off Her feet. And for the record, She's more better at UNIX than I am ;) And was into it before I met Her. Our idea of a nice evening, is watching a horror movie and discussing UNIX. I also go shopping with Her and Her best friend is jelouse as hell because she says I'm the only guy on the planet that isn't gay and has taste (most of what they buy I picked out and brought to them while they were looking at other things). It's funny :) Her best friend is like damn it how did you find him? He opens the door for You, cooks, cleans, and isn't stupid and is good looking too??? Hehe, -Allen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 18:07 -0400, Allen wrote:
*Trim*
Your wife wants flowers. She doesn't want Linux. Now pick up the 'phone, reserve a table for two at her favorite restaurante and have the flowers delivered between courses. Just go and do it. _Then_ get back to the list. Go on then. L x
Oddly enough She doesn't want flowers. I was going to buy Her some Roses one day, and She didn't want them. The dinner part yes, but flowers no, however, She also would rather have ME cook.
I'm actually a pretty good cook and She LOVES when I make dinner, which is almost every night. I usually just come up with something on the spot that way I don't think to hard about it and let the natural God Given talent take over instead of planning.
Like when I make stir fry for us for dinner, She Loves it. I make the sauce, mix the spices by hand, and cook it all up, and shape the rice on Her plate like a Heart and put it on top of that which sweeps Her off Her feet.
And for the record, She's more better at UNIX than I am ;) And was into it before I met Her.
Our idea of a nice evening, is watching a horror movie and discussing UNIX. I also go shopping with Her and Her best friend is jelouse as hell because she says I'm the only guy on the planet that isn't gay and has taste (most of what they buy I picked out and brought to them while they were looking at other things).
It's funny :) Her best friend is like damn it how did you find him? He opens the door for You, cooks, cleans, and isn't stupid and is good looking too???
Hehe,
-Allen
Lol! And I am like; Damn were did you find her. A girls that digs horror movies and actually can fix your b0rked system :D -- Regards, Aniruddha Please adhere to the OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Allen wrote:
It's funny :) Her best friend is like damn it how did you find him? He opens the door for You, cooks, cleans, and isn't stupid and is good looking too???
Hehe,
-Allen
Please, don't be so modest. ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 03 November 2007 17:07, Allen wrote: <snip>
It's funny :) Her best friend is like damn it how did you find him? He opens the door for You, cooks, cleans, and isn't stupid and is good looking too???
Hehe,
-Allen
Now to work on keeping the seat down. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 04 November 2007 2:42 am, Stevens wrote:
On Saturday 03 November 2007 17:07, Allen wrote: <snip>
It's funny :) Her best friend is like damn it how did you find him? He opens the door for You, cooks, cleans, and isn't stupid and is good looking too???
Hehe,
-Allen
Now to work on keeping the seat down.
Fred
Actually that's funny, because She's like into Womans rights, and equality, so me being a funny little scheisse, I said "If I have to lift the seat before I pee You have to lift it after You do, THAT'S equality" and we laughed. So no problems on that end lol. -Allen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm wrote:
On Saturday 03 November 2007 03:43:57 Allen wrote:
On Friday 02 November 2007 7:11 pm, primm wrote:
On Friday 02 November 2007 17:56:30 Allen wrote:
Ubuntu? Wow, unless OpenSUSE grabbed me by the head and punched me I wouldn't touch Ubuntu again.
But ubuntu just works right from the cd. You can install it in 15 minutes. It plays videos and mp3's and stuff I have on my ipod. That's what girls want. Unless you want a network I'd recommend it. L x
Lol that's not what girls want, the actual geek girls I know want Slackware or SUSE ;) My Wife for example, can't stand Ubuntu and LOVES Sun stuff and Slackware.
-Allen
Your wife wants flowers. She doesn't want Linux. Now pick up the 'phone, reserve a table for two at her favorite restaurante and have the flowers delivered between courses. Just go and do it. _Then_ get back to the list. Go on then. L x
When I was at IBM, a couple of years ago, one woman wanted my Tux penguin! ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat November 3 2007 06:29:25 pm James Knott wrote:
When I was at IBM, a couple of years ago, one woman wanted my Tux penguin! ;-)
Was she a stunning redhead w/ green eyes programming in AI at the San Jose campus? Just curious... :-) Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carl Hartung wrote:
On Sat November 3 2007 06:29:25 pm James Knott wrote:
When I was at IBM, a couple of years ago, one woman wanted my Tux penguin! ;-)
Was she a stunning redhead w/ green eyes programming in AI at the San Jose campus?
Just curious... :-)
Carl
No, while she had red hair, I don't think she had green eyes and this was in Toronto. BTW, it's an IBM Tux, that I picked up at a Linux conference, that's wearing an IBM blue jacket and bow tie. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 22:43 -0400, Allen wrote:
Lol that's not what girls want, the actual geek girls I know want Slackware or SUSE ;) My Wife for example, can't stand Ubuntu and LOVES Sun stuff and Slackware.
-Allen
You're my hero :) -- Regards, Aniruddha Please adhere to the OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 03 November 2007 3:29 am, Aniruddha wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 22:43 -0400, Allen wrote:
Lol that's not what girls want, the actual geek girls I know want Slackware or SUSE ;) My Wife for example, can't stand Ubuntu and LOVES Sun stuff and Slackware.
-Allen
You're my hero :)
Lol, why? -Allen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 18:02 -0400, Allen wrote:
On Saturday 03 November 2007 3:29 am, Aniruddha wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 22:43 -0400, Allen wrote:
Lol that's not what girls want, the actual geek girls I know want Slackware or SUSE ;) My Wife for example, can't stand Ubuntu and LOVES Sun stuff and Slackware.
-Allen
You're my hero :)
Lol, why?
-Allen
Because your married to a girl who favors sun/slack above ubuntu :) -- Regards, Aniruddha -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
You're my hero :)
Lol, why?
-Allen
Because your married to a girl who favors sun/slack above ubuntu :)
-- Regards,
Aniruddha
It wasn't easy believe me. It was actually by chance. I met Her and She saw my Slackware stuff (Tee shirt and so on) and complimented me on that and how at the last company She worked at people were using these high end machines with Ubuntu. And the Horror movie part, online I have a list of my movie collection which isn't even complete but I do have a VERY nice collection when it comes to rare movies from the Grindhouse days, and She Loved it and was shocked that someone into Computers, and in particular, UNIX based stuff, was also into Zombie movies and the same music. To say the least we fell for each other within a day and I moved in last December and not long after I was going to Propose to Her and while I was getting ready too, I didn't know it but She was also getting ready to propose to me. We got Married in August on the 18th of this year and have been Happily Married since. We both Love Jolt, Zombie flicks, and Linux heh. She even buys the mags we read which si of course Fangoria, Rue Morgue, and Linux Pro. She buys them and we both read them as they're what I'd have bought anyway lol. Also She LOVES BOFH and so do I hehe :) -Allen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Allen wrote:
To say the least we fell for each other within a day and I moved in last December and not long after I was going to Propose to Her and while I was getting ready too, I didn't know it but She was also getting ready to propose to me.
We got Married in August on the 18th of this year and have been Happily Married since.
We both Love Jolt, Zombie flicks, and Linux heh.
She even buys the mags we read which si of course Fangoria, Rue Morgue, and Linux Pro. She buys them and we both read them as they're what I'd have bought anyway lol.
Also She LOVES BOFH and so do I hehe :)
Ain't love grand? It's great to hear that it still works. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 mukul wrote:
After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw.
Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it.
M
im assuming you have tried this? sax2 -r logout then login -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHKmI6vcaLutW7oXQRAumMAJwNtU3nwlTM9QXUFRk5y62gp/FZEQCgll1o fgg9f2Ind9O/2ANbRAefjC0= =7nhO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Did that and SaX2 also complained. I sent a log which sax2 generates to the mailing list yesterday. Regards, M -----Original Message----- From: steve [mailto:sfreilly@roadrunner.com] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 10:33 AM To: suse Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 mukul wrote:
After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw.
Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it.
M
im assuming you have tried this? sax2 -r logout then login -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHKmI6vcaLutW7oXQRAumMAJwNtU3nwlTM9QXUFRk5y62gp/FZEQCgll1o fgg9f2Ind9O/2ANbRAefjC0= =7nhO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2007/11/02 09:50 (GMT+1100) mukul apparently typed:
After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw.
If X server trouble is your plight, switching to another distro recently (Ubuntu, Mandriva) or soon to be (Fedora) released is likely to give you a highly similar (unsatisfactory) experience. -- " A patriot without religion . . . is as great a paradox, as an honest man without the fear of God." John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 01 November 2007 03:50:17 pm mukul wrote:
After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw.
Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it.
M
You realize that Ubuntu uses the same X version right? lol.. Also.. You'll be back.. I've tried Ubuntu / Kubuntu a few times.. and always came back. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:48 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote:
On Thursday 01 November 2007 03:50:17 pm mukul wrote:
After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw.
Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it.
M
You realize that Ubuntu uses the same X version right? lol..
Also.. You'll be back.. I've tried Ubuntu / Kubuntu a few times.. and always came back.
Ben
One thing you can give the Ubuntu/Kubuntu crowd is the vast collection of apps in the repo and the fact that it takes a full 2min to update the repo filelist. openSUSE does have the new BuildService, but every time I want to update an app I have to go and enable that particular repo and update to see if updates exist - if I leave all the repos enabled I can wait upto a hour to get all the updated filelists. To many separate repos. The lack of Yast, the great community :), and my no-knowledge of Debian is still keeping me away from Kubuntu. Hans E-mail Disclaimer http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
All those people who are trying to take this to a personal level seems to have been offended by the subject line : "Bye bye opensuse". Well, I did post the logs yesterday and no one bothered to have a look at it (not that you are obliged to), but "Bye bye opensuse" has attracted a variety of responses, good as well as bad. Anyway, I have now done a clean install of 10.3 and am keeping my fingers crossed. Peace. Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:48 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote:
On Thursday 01 November 2007 03:50:17 pm mukul wrote:
After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw.
Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it.
M
You realize that Ubuntu uses the same X version right? lol..
Also.. You'll be back.. I've tried Ubuntu / Kubuntu a few times.. and always came back.
Ben
One thing you can give the Ubuntu/Kubuntu crowd is the vast collection of apps in the repo and the fact that it takes a full 2min to update the repo filelist. openSUSE does have the new BuildService, but every time I want to update an app I have to go and enable that particular repo and update to see if updates exist - if I leave all the repos enabled I can wait upto a hour to get all the updated filelists. To many separate repos. The lack of Yast, the great community :), and my no-knowledge of Debian is still keeping me away from Kubuntu.
Hans
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mukul wrote:
All those people who are trying to take this to a personal level seems to have been offended by the subject line : "Bye bye opensuse". Well, I did post the logs yesterday and no one bothered to have a look at it (not that you are obliged to), but "Bye bye opensuse" has attracted a variety of responses, good as well as bad.
This is because most Linux guys think that "their OS" is the best around and each one is correct. ;-))
Anyway, I have now done a clean install of 10.3 and am keeping my fingers crossed.
Good luck with your new installation and just let us know how it works. Should there be no answer within a days time, you either need to buy a support contract to get guaranteed response times. Alternatively, cheaper, simply use a subject line like this one. ;-)) regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
mukul wrote:
All those people who are trying to take this to a personal level seems to have been offended by the subject line : "Bye bye opensuse". Well, I did post the logs yesterday and no one bothered to have a look at it
Actually, someone DID look at it, and pointed out that you had version discrepencies....and that's why *I* advised you to roll back to the previous known-to-work version, because that should have removed the version descrepencies.
(not that you are obliged to), but "Bye bye opensuse" has attracted a variety of responses, good as well as bad.
Anyway, I have now done a clean install of 10.3 and am keeping my fingers crossed.
Peace.
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:48 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote:
On Thursday 01 November 2007 03:50:17 pm mukul wrote:
After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw.
Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it.
M
You realize that Ubuntu uses the same X version right? lol..
Also.. You'll be back.. I've tried Ubuntu / Kubuntu a few times.. and always came back.
Ben
One thing you can give the Ubuntu/Kubuntu crowd is the vast collection of apps in the repo and the fact that it takes a full 2min to update the repo filelist. openSUSE does have the new BuildService, but every time I want to update an app I have to go and enable that particular repo and update to see if updates exist - if I leave all the repos enabled I can wait upto a hour to get all the updated filelists. To many separate repos. The lack of Yast, the great community :), and my no-knowledge of Debian is still keeping me away from Kubuntu.
Hans
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On Friday 02 November 2007, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
mukul wrote:
All those people who are trying to take this to a personal level seems to have been offended by the subject line : "Bye bye opensuse". Well, I did post the logs yesterday and no one bothered to have a look at it
Actually, someone DID look at it, and pointed out that you had version discrepencies....and that's why *I* advised you to roll back to the previous known-to-work version, because that should have removed the version descrepencies.
or to upgrade all xorg stuff to the same version. If the OP would have read my contribution to this thread and the comment of Anders he might even be aware that he probably had this problem (like me) due to still having factory in his active repositories. Rolling all xorg-x11 stuff back to 7.2 will solve it same as upgrading all to 7.3.
(not that you are obliged to), but "Bye bye opensuse" has attracted a variety of responses, good as well as bad.
Anyway, I have now done a clean install of 10.3 and am keeping my fingers crossed.
which is another way to solve the version discrepencies ...
Peace.
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Ben Kevan wrote:
On Thursday 01 November 2007 03:50:17 pm mukul wrote:
After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw.
Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it.
M
You realize that Ubuntu uses the same X version right? lol..
Also.. You'll be back.. I've tried Ubuntu / Kubuntu a few times.. and always came back.
Ben Well, I have been to Kubuntu and Xubuntu and Edubuntu and fell in love. Now I am using the ubuntu family and openSUSE, each where I think it delivers the best benefit. Luckily with Linux, polygamy is not prohibited. ;-))
Having said this, your Xserver problem looks to me to be rather specific to what works wrong with X specifically at that moment on your computer, it has nothing to do with SUSE versus Ubuntu or anything else. I am sure we can fix it and you will possibly not have any troubles anymore, after X is running. I would either login textually on your computer with root or, better, if you happen to have a second machine, "ssh -X" to your Computer from there, start Yast2, delete anything X related, reboot (yes it is not needed) and then reinstall Xorg packages from scratch. Then run "init 3", then "sax2" and for all that I would expect, you should be a happy camper, once again. Sorry for the bad experiences you currently need to endure. But Linux has more on offer, after your X will be working... Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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