[opensuse] Panel behavior in kde4
I want to produce in the kde4 panel something like the behavior that I found effective and useful in kde3 panels. What was done then was to arrange on a second panel at the top of the screen icons representing the apps and utilities that I used routinely, so that loading one of them was a simple matter of reaching up with the mouse and clicking on whatever I needed. As far as I have been able to find, the panel in kde4 doesn't lend itself to containing anything but a limited set of "widgets". Clicking in an unoccupied region of a panel with MB2 (called by right0handed people "right-click") brings up the following list of items: Add Widgets, Add Panel, Lock Widgets, Panel Settings, and Remove this Panel. Nothing about non-widget objects. For that matter, nothing about moving even a widget from one location to another on the panel -- where is falls is where it has to remain. I am sure that I am missing something, because I do not believe that functionality can have been removed, thus rendering the panel a far less useful thing. What is it that I am missing? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Stan Goodman said the following on 06/12/2010 12:08 PM:
I want to produce in the kde4 panel something like the behavior that I found effective and useful in kde3 panels. What was done then was to arrange on a second panel at the top of the screen icons representing the apps and utilities that I used routinely, so that loading one of them was a simple matter of reaching up with the mouse and clicking on whatever I needed.
As far as I have been able to find, the panel in kde4 doesn't lend itself to containing anything but a limited set of "widgets". Clicking in an unoccupied region of a panel with MB2 (called by right0handed people "right-click") brings up the following list of items: Add Widgets, Add Panel, Lock Widgets, Panel Settings, and Remove this Panel. Nothing about non-widget objects. For that matter, nothing about moving even a widget from one location to another on the panel -- where is falls is where it has to remain. I am sure that I am missing something, because I do not believe that functionality can have been removed, thus rendering the panel a far less useful thing. What is it that I am missing?
Sorry, Stan, you are not correct, it does and this has been discussed here before. (And yes you can move widget about within a panel!) As it happens, I have my 'apps' bar on the right hand side with autohide. If you check the archives for 26th Feb 2010 with the subject "Making Sense of KDE4" I describe in detail how to set this up. -- Warning: Do not look directly into laser with remaining eye. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:08:32 +0300
Stan Goodman
I want to produce in the kde4 panel something like the behavior that I found effective and useful in kde3 panels. What was done then was to arrange on a second panel at the top of the screen icons representing the apps and utilities that I used routinely, so that loading one of them was a simple matter of reaching up with the mouse and clicking on whatever I needed.
As far as I have been able to find, the panel in kde4 doesn't lend itself to containing anything but a limited set of "widgets". Clicking in an unoccupied region of a panel with MB2 (called by right0handed people "right-click") brings up the following list of items: Add Widgets, Add Panel, Lock Widgets, Panel Settings, and Remove this Panel. Nothing about non-widget objects. For that matter, nothing about moving even a widget from one location to another on the panel -- where is falls is where it has to remain. I am sure that I am missing something, because I do not believe that functionality can have been removed, thus rendering the panel a far less useful thing. What is it that I am missing?
Right clicking on any program in the start menu brings a pop-up menu with one of the options being "add to panel". Works just fine. Tom -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin openSuSE 11.3-M7 x86_64 KDE 4.4.3, FF 3.6.4 claws-mail 3.7.6 linxt-AT-comcast.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 13 June 2010 03:04:33 Thomas Taylor wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:08:32 +0300
Stan Goodman
wrote: I want to produce in the kde4 panel something like the behavior that I found effective and useful in kde3 panels. What was done then was to arrange on a second panel at the top of the screen icons representing the apps and utilities that I used routinely, so that loading one of them was a simple matter of reaching up with the mouse and clicking on whatever I needed.
As far as I have been able to find, the panel in kde4 doesn't lend itself to containing anything but a limited set of "widgets". Clicking in an unoccupied region of a panel with MB2 (called by right0handed people "right-click") brings up the following list of items: Add Widgets, Add Panel, Lock Widgets, Panel Settings, and Remove this Panel. Nothing about non-widget objects. For that matter, nothing about moving even a widget from one location to another on the panel -- where is falls is where it has to remain. I am sure that I am missing something, because I do not believe that functionality can have been removed, thus rendering the panel a far less useful thing. What is it that I am missing?
Right clicking on any program in the start menu brings a pop-up menu with one of the options being "add to panel". Works just fine.
Tom
In the Chameleon menu? I would never have thought to connect the two. But "right clicking" on icons there offers the following options: Start <program name>, Help, Remove from favorites, Add to startup programs, Upgrade, Uninstall. Nothing about panels. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 13. Juni 2010, 09:19:28 schrieb Stan Goodman:
In the Chameleon menu? I would never have thought to connect the two. But "right clicking" on icons there offers the following options: Start <program name>, Help, Remove from favorites, Add to startup programs, Upgrade, Uninstall.
Yep, that menu. That's where apps icons are stored and thus the starting point for copying/adding them to other places. Have you unlocked the desktop? Otherwise it must not let you add anything to the panel. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 13 June 2010 11:19:09 Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Sonntag, 13. Juni 2010, 09:19:28 schrieb Stan Goodman:
In the Chameleon menu? I would never have thought to connect the two. But "right clicking" on icons there offers the following options: Start <program name>, Help, Remove from favorites, Add to startup programs, Upgrade, Uninstall.
Yep, that menu. That's where apps icons are stored and thus the starting point for copying/adding them to other places.
Have you unlocked the desktop? Otherwise it must not let you add anything to the panel.
Sven
Unlocking the desktop is done, if I remember correctly, by clicking on a 'cashew' in the corner. I do not see anything at all in any of the four corners, even when the panels are both hidden. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 16:36, Stan Goodman wrote:
On Sunday 13 June 2010 11:19:09 Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Sonntag, 13. Juni 2010, 09:19:28 schrieb Stan Goodman:
In the Chameleon menu? I would never have thought to connect the two. But "right clicking" on icons there offers the following options: Start <program name>, Help, Remove from favorites, Add to startup programs, Upgrade, Uninstall.
Yep, that menu. That's where apps icons are stored and thus the starting point for copying/adding them to other places.
Have you unlocked the desktop? Otherwise it must not let you add anything to the panel.
Sven
Unlocking the desktop is done, if I remember correctly, by clicking on a 'cashew' in the corner. I do not see anything at all in any of the four corners, even when the panels are both hidden.
You're overthinking it Stan :-) Just right-click on the desktop and select Unlock Widgets. Then go into your application menu and right-click on whatever app you want to place in your panel bar(s) and select Add to Panel. If you want to move them around (this isn't as logical unfortunately), right-click on the panel, select Panel Options > Panel Settings. Drag the icons wherever you want them. When you click away from the panel, the edit mode closes/exits. You can then lock the widgets again via right-click. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 13 June 2010 17:50:49 C wrote:
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 16:36, Stan Goodman wrote:
On Sunday 13 June 2010 11:19:09 Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Sonntag, 13. Juni 2010, 09:19:28 schrieb Stan Goodman:
In the Chameleon menu? I would never have thought to connect the two. But "right clicking" on icons there offers the following options: Start <program name>, Help, Remove from favorites, Add to startup programs, Upgrade, Uninstall.
Yep, that menu. That's where apps icons are stored and thus the starting point for copying/adding them to other places.
Have you unlocked the desktop? Otherwise it must not let you add anything to the panel.
Sven
Unlocking the desktop is done, if I remember correctly, by clicking on a 'cashew' in the corner. I do not see anything at all in any of the four corners, even when the panels are both hidden.
You're overthinking it Stan :-) Just right-click on the desktop and select Unlock Widgets. Then go into your application menu and right-click on whatever app you want to place in your panel bar(s) and select Add to Panel.
If you want to move them around (this isn't as logical unfortunately),
Thank you for saying that. =;-)8
right-click on the panel, select Panel Options > Panel Settings. Drag the icons wherever you want them. When you click away from the panel, the edit mode closes/exits. You can then lock the widgets again via right-click.
C.
Many thanks... -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Anton Aylward
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Stan Goodman
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Sven Burmeister
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Thomas Taylor