[opensuse] Short of space on /boot
My /boot is not under LVM so I can't grow it. I'm using GRUB. Back in the days of LILO I could just delete old kernel and edit LILO.conf ... What do I do to clean old kernels out of /boot and GRUB and not get things messed up? -- Almost all quality improvement comes via simplification of design,manufacturing, layout, processes, and procedures. -- Tom Peters -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2009-03-04 at 08:46 -0500, Anton Aylward wrote:
My /boot is not under LVM so I can't grow it.
And it would not work, AFAIK.
I'm using GRUB.
Back in the days of LILO I could just delete old kernel and edit LILO.conf ...
What do I do to clean old kernels out of /boot and GRUB and not get things messed up?
Remove the rpms that contain them, not forgetting to manually revise the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmuiUwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V8nACcCfhLbhi2sNsU+9iUOb5ajDug wosAn1Zinj0AXXTrIw0Oa8vcE0nRqkPm =FuDn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 21:59:37 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2009-03-04 at 08:46 -0500, Anton Aylward wrote:
My /boot is not under LVM so I can't grow it.
And it would not work, AFAIK.
I think it can be made to work using LILO as the bootloader.
I'm using GRUB.
Back in the days of LILO I could just delete old kernel and edit LILO.conf ...
What do I do to clean old kernels out of /boot and GRUB and not get things messed up?
Remove the rpms that contain them, not forgetting to manually revise the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.
*nod* Presumably the OP has been manually installing kernels via rpm -ivh rather than via updates and so on. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2009-03-10 at 09:17 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 21:59:37 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2009-03-04 at 08:46 -0500, Anton Aylward wrote:
My /boot is not under LVM so I can't grow it.
And it would not work, AFAIK.
I think it can be made to work using LILO as the bootloader.
Ah? Interesting. If confirmed, it makes one wonder why lilo was removed from the distro. :-?
I'm using GRUB.
Back in the days of LILO I could just delete old kernel and edit LILO.conf ...
What do I do to clean old kernels out of /boot and GRUB and not get things messed up?
Remove the rpms that contain them, not forgetting to manually revise the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.
*nod* Presumably the OP has been manually installing kernels via rpm -ivh rather than via updates and so on.
The zypper in 11.1 can be configured to do just that, meaning you have to remove kernels manually. It's a new feature. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkm1zHEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UijwCghMozzqAjHTNWv1D4Kduikfas YVYAnRZ2YlJswh8NGqk5oRelfxBYbqzq =zmjX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
My /boot is not under LVM so I can't grow it. And it would not work, AFAIK. I think it can be made to work using LILO as the bootloader. Ah? Interesting. If confirmed, it makes one wonder why lilo was removed from the distro. :-?
doesn't LILO work by figuring out on what sectors of the disk the kernel lives, and then stores that in the MBR, meaning that as long as the kernel is on one disk only (ie, not striped somehow), it'd not care what the filesystem (or volume management) was.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 10:45:22 Philip Dowie wrote:
My /boot is not under LVM so I can't grow it.
And it would not work, AFAIK.
I think it can be made to work using LILO as the bootloader.
Ah? Interesting. If confirmed, it makes one wonder why lilo was removed from the distro. :-?
doesn't LILO work by figuring out on what sectors of the disk the kernel lives, and then stores that in the MBR, meaning that as long as the kernel is on one disk only (ie, not striped somehow), it'd not care what the filesystem (or volume management) was..
I'm pretty sure that's what it does, hence why lilo has to be re-run every time it gets changed. I never looked into how it works too deeply, but just know it's possible to have /boot on LVM as a customer was doing it, and that was their requirement for LILO. Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 10:11:49 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Tuesday, 2009-03-10 at 09:17 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
I think it can be made to work using LILO as the bootloader.
Ah? Interesting. If confirmed, it makes one wonder why lilo was removed from the distro. :-?
It's still in the repos for 11.1. I think there is always a discussion about it being removed, but it's used as a bootloader on platforms other than x86/x86_64 where grub can't be used I believe. I can't remember the exact details, but I think I saw a discussion about this a while ago. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2009-03-10 at 11:09 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 10:11:49 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Tuesday, 2009-03-10 at 09:17 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
I think it can be made to work using LILO as the bootloader.
Ah? Interesting. If confirmed, it makes one wonder why lilo was removed from the distro. :-?
It's still in the repos for 11.1. I think there is always a discussion about it being removed, but it's used as a bootloader on platforms other than x86/x86_64 where grub can't be used I believe. I can't remember the exact details, but I think I saw a discussion about this a while ago.
It has been removed from the i386 platform (32/64), that's right, and kept on anothers. Yes, there was a discussion. I was against, but I'm just a plain user. I thought that having two booting methods is safer, but Novell/Suse think it is easier/cheaper/whatever to maintain just one. I was not aware, that I remember, that lilo worked on LVM (grub does not, as far as I know). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkm15LcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XXlACeNue0Awzd/UU2k3YdvxL9n2QH JKIAn2+zXzt7VdFxgBg7Dj/z5qMTfk9G =yVwQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 09 March 09, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Tuesday, 2009-03-10 at 09:17 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 21:59:37 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2009-03-04 at 08:46 -0500, Anton Aylward wrote:
My /boot is not under LVM so I can't grow it.
And it would not work, AFAIK.
I think it can be made to work using LILO as the bootloader.
Ah? Interesting. If confirmed, it makes one wonder why lilo was removed from the distro. :-?
LILO was a damn fine bootloader. The reason it's removed...it's the new Opensuse/KDE mantra of 'fix what ain't broke'. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday March 10 2009, JB2 wrote:
On 09 March 09, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Tuesday, 2009-03-10 at 09:17 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 21:59:37 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2009-03-04 at 08:46 -0500, Anton Aylward wrote:
My /boot is not under LVM so I can't grow it.
And it would not work, AFAIK.
I think it can be made to work using LILO as the bootloader.
Ah? Interesting. If confirmed, it makes one wonder why lilo was removed from the distro. :-?
LILO was a damn fine bootloader. The reason it's removed...it's the new Opensuse/KDE mantra of 'fix what ain't broke'.
LILO _is_ broken in an era of multi-gigabyte mass storage devices. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Anton Aylward
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Carlos E. R.
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JB2
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Jonathan Ervine
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Philip Dowie
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Randall R Schulz