MusicMatch Releases Jukebox Software for Linux!!
Message-ID: <3A1F5492.D77AF4B5@lightlink.com> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:56:34 -0500 From: "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com> Subject: MusicMatch Releases Jukebox Software for Linux!! Check this out! Fred _____________________ http://www.maximumlinux.com/content/news/2000/11/21/11839
From: Jerry Kreps <jerrykreps@jlkreps.net> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 11:16:44 -0600 Message-Id: <00112511164402.15873@JLKreps> Subject: Re: [SLE] MusicMatch Releases Jukebox Software for Linux!! On Friday 24 November 2000 23:56, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Check this out!
Fred _____________________
<p>mmm.... It looks like they went the Corel WPO2000 route and put their WinXX app on top of WINE. They also claim that they have "given back" to the OSS movement by contributed significantly to the WINE development. IF these contributions to WINE continue, it may yet become a viable alternative to running Winxx software. JLK -- Scientific theories, according to Sir Karl Popper, can be "falsified," or proven wrong, by experiment. Unscientific theories -Marxist dialectical history and Freudian psychology were Popper's favorites-are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by data.
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:49:17 -0800 From: Ben Rosenberg <brosenb@suse.com> Message-ID: <20001125154917.B29098@suse.com> Subject: Re: [SLE] MusicMatch Releases Jukebox Software for Linux!! Yes, I suppose this is cool. I just don't have much use for software that isn't native when there are so many cool native Linux apps. just my 0.02 * Jerry Kreps (jerrykreps@jlkreps.net) [001125 09:17]: -**-On Friday 24 November 2000 23:56, Fred A. Miller wrote: -**-> Check this out! -**-> -**-> Fred -**-> _____________________ -**-> -**-> http://www.maximumlinux.com/content/news/2000/11/21/11839 -**- -**- -**-mmm.... It looks like they went the Corel WPO2000 route and put their -**-WinXX app on top of WINE. They also claim that they have "given -**-back" to the OSS movement by contributed significantly to the WINE -**-development. -**- -**-IF these contributions to WINE continue, it may yet become a viable -**-alternative to running Winxx software. -**-JLK -**- -**--- -**- Scientific theories, according to Sir Karl Popper, can be -**-"falsified," or proven wrong, by experiment. Unscientific theories -**--Marxist dialectical history and Freudian psychology were Popper's -**-favorites-are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by -**-data. -**- -**- -**--- -**-To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com -**-For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com -**-Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq -**- -- Benjamin Rosenberg The Linux Experts :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SuSE Inc. Tel: +1-510-628-3380 ext:5086 580 Second St Suite 210 Fax: +1-510-835-3381 Suite 210 mailto:brosenb@suse.com Oakland CA 94607 U.S.A http://www.suse.com :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: If two men agree on everything, you may be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking. --LBJ "My opinions are not a reflection of the opinions of SuSE Inc."
From: Jerry Kreps <jerrykreps@jlkreps.net> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 07:39:29 -0600 Message-Id: <00112607392902.30847@JLKreps> Subject: Re: [SLE] MusicMatch Releases Jukebox Software for Linux!! After I responed to that email I gave the idea another thought. What has the 'give back' by Corel done to WINE? Essentially nothing. While Corel's version of WINE may tuned for CWPO2000, that doesn't mean it will work for anything else. Programs which ran under WINE one release won't run under the next release. The JukeBox WINE may not run CWPO2000 or visa-versa. The problem with WINE is that they are trying to hit a moving target, just like IBM was. All Borg has to do is deliberately tweek any dll in any service pack for any MS application and WINE is busted again. That is why it is probably the longest running 'beta' program in the Linux community. JLK On Saturday 25 November 2000 17:49, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
Yes, I suppose this is cool. I just don't have much use for software that isn't native when there are so many cool native Linux apps.
just my 0.02
* Jerry Kreps (jerrykreps@jlkreps.net) [001125 09:17]: -**-On Friday 24 November 2000 23:56, Fred A. Miller wrote: -**-> Check this out! -**-> -**-> Fred -**-> _____________________ -**-> -**-> http://www.maximumlinux.com/content/news/2000/11/21/11839 -**- -**- -**-mmm.... It looks like they went the Corel WPO2000 route and put their -**-WinXX app on top of WINE. They also claim that they have "given -**-back" to the OSS movement by contributed significantly to the WINE -**-development. -**- -**-IF these contributions to WINE continue, it may yet become a viable -**-alternative to running Winxx software. -**-JLK -**- -**--- -**- Scientific theories, according to Sir Karl Popper, can be -**-"falsified," or proven wrong, by experiment. Unscientific theories -**--Marxist dialectical history and Freudian psychology were Popper's -**-favorites-are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by -**-data. -**- -**- -**--- -**-To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com -**-For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com -**-Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq -**- --
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If two men agree on everything, you may be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking. --LBJ
"My opinions are not a reflection of the opinions of SuSE Inc."
-- Scientific theories, according to Sir Karl Popper, can be "falsified," orp roven wrong, by experiment. Unscientific theories-Marxist dialectical history and Freudian psychology were Popper's favorites-are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by data.
-**-mmm.... It looks like they went the Corel WPO2000 route and put their -**-WinXX app on top of WINE. They also claim that they have I am very confused about something here. Doesn't WINE actually require that MS Windows be installed because it uses many pieces of Windows in order to function? Isn't Linux among other things, an alternate operating system so users can be free from MS? If this is the case, why would any Linux user want to use an applpication
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:11:14 -0500 From: Damon Register <damon.w.register@lmco.com> Message-id: <3A26B462.96FAC572@lmco.com> Subject: Re: [SLE] MusicMatch Releases Jukebox Software for Linux!! Jerry Kreps wrote: that forces him to install the other OS that he/she is trying to escape? Damon Register
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:57:55 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Thomas <ethant@pacificnet.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011301254440.6699-100000@hominy.2fortheroad.net> Subject: Re: [SLE] MusicMatch Releases Jukebox Software for Linux!! On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Damon Register wrote:
-**-mmm.... It looks like they went the Corel WPO2000 route and put their -**-WinXX app on top of WINE. They also claim that they have I am very confused about something here. Doesn't WINE actually require that MS Windows be installed because it uses many pieces of Windows in order to function? Isn't Linux among other things, an alternate operating system so users can be free from MS? If this is the case, why would any Linux user want to use an applpication
Jerry Kreps wrote: that forces him to install the other OS that he/she is trying to escape?
MM is probably using just the WINE libs to ease porting, just like WP. Also, the full WINE does not require a Windows license, it just tries to provide as complete of a Windows API as possible but it is entirely open source. You would obviously need a license for whatever Windows app you were using. Greg
From: Jerry Kreps <jerrykreps@jlkreps.net> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:42:00 -0600 Message-Id: <00113018420004.08873@JLKreps> Subject: Re: [SLE] MusicMatch Releases Jukebox Software for Linux!! On Thursday 30 November 2000 14:11, Damon Register wrote:
Jerry Kreps wrote:
-**-mmm.... It looks like they went the Corel WPO2000 route and put their -**-WinXX app on top of WINE. They also claim that they have
I am very confused about something here. Doesn't WINE actually require that MS Windows be installed because it uses many pieces of Windows in order to function? Isn't Linux among other things, an alternate operating system so users can be free from MS? If this is the case, why would any Linux user want to use an applpication that forces him to install the other OS that he/she is trying to escape?
Damon Register
<p>WINE supplies clones of Win32 API functions, and dlls in a pseudo WIin Platform. Some functions pass through to Win itself, but if apps setting on WINE never call those functions Win is never needed. Licenses to run WinXX software is another matter. If you already have an app license and it runs on top of WINE then why not run it? It's not illegal. JLK <p> -- Scientific theories, according to Sir Karl Popper, can be "falsified," or proven wrong, by experiment. Unscientific theories -Marxist dialectical history and Freudian psychology were Popper's favorites- are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by data.
Message-ID: <3A213EAB.F9281D11@knief.net> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 08:47:39 -0800 From: Herman Knief <herman@knief.net> Subject: Re: [SLE] MusicMatch Releases Jukebox Software for Linux!! Lovely "PORT". The damn thing installs WINE. - Herman <p>"Fred A. Miller" wrote:
Check this out!
Fred _____________________
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Message-ID: <3A22AFD0.E9D25FE4@ast-inc.com> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:02:40 -0800 From: Ken Hughes <kenh@ast-inc.com> Subject: Re: [SLE] MusicMatch Releases Jukebox Software for Linux!! Herman Knief wrote:
Lovely "PORT". The damn thing installs WINE.
- Herman
Try installing it. I did and all I got was a lovely little access violation error message a-la Windoze. I promptly removed it. I agree with others. Too many native Linux tools out there to mess with this one. Ken Hughes
From: "Eric Brown" <ericbr@oz.net> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:55:15 -0800 Message-ID: <009901c05aa2$e08ef180$6664a8c0@MECHAGHIDRA> Subject: Installing new kernel... Is there a SuSE-specific sequence necessary to install a new kernel? If so, is it documented anywhere? First, I tried to install the 2.2.16 kernel from the SuSE mirror at ftp.twoguys.org:/suse/update/6.4/kernel-2.2.16/k_smp.rpm . The update succeeded, but when I boot that kernel, the initrd *seems* to be corrupt, as it cannot find my SCSI modules, and the boot hangs with VFS: cannot open root device 08:01. I tried rebuilding the initial ramdisk with mk_initrd, but that causes a kernel crash while decompressing the ramdisk. Second, I tried to create a rescue disk, with yast, but when I boot the rescue disk, I get nothing but a blinking cursor. Third, I tried to install a new kernel using the typical sequence (make dep; make clean; make bzdisk; make modules; make modules_install). When I boot from the boot floppy, I get nothing but a blinking cursor. If I do a make bzlilo; mk_initrd and reboot, the kernel boots, but can't find any modules in the initial ramdisk, and I get the VFS: cannot open root device 08:01 error again. Surely *someone* has been able to install a new kernel from scratch. *HELP!* Eric
Message-ID: <3A266B20.D3A07850@gypsyfarm.com> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:58:40 -0500 From: zentara <zentara@gypsyfarm.com> Subject: Re: [SLE] Installing new kernel... Eric Brown wrote:
Is there a SuSE-specific sequence necessary to install a new kernel? If so, is it documented anywhere?
First, I tried to install the 2.2.16 kernel from the SuSE mirror at ftp.twoguys.org:/suse/update/6.4/kernel-2.2.16/k_smp.rpm . The update succeeded, but when I boot that kernel, the initrd *seems* to be corrupt, as it cannot find my SCSI modules, and the boot hangs with VFS: cannot open root device 08:01.
It sounds like you took all the apropriate steps. Maybe the kernel you downloaded was corrupted. Also did you do a "lilo" before trying to reboot the new kernel; then a "depmod -a" after rebooting?
Message-ID: <020701c05adf$6bdb12a0$dbf2f3c3@lala> From: "dan@younics" <suse@dertext.de> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:08:32 +0100 Subject: Re: [SLE] Installing new kernel... ...might also be a scsi problem. when i had this, i succeeded with booting from rescue system and activating linear , another time by installing scsi support hard into kernel, no module. good luck dan ----- Original Message ----- From: zentara <zentara@gypsyfarm.com> To: <ericbr@oz.net> Cc: 'Suse-Linux-E' <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Installing new kernel... <p>> Eric Brown wrote:
Is there a SuSE-specific sequence necessary to install a new kernel? If
so,
is it documented anywhere?
First, I tried to install the 2.2.16 kernel from the SuSE mirror at ftp.twoguys.org:/suse/update/6.4/kernel-2.2.16/k_smp.rpm . The update succeeded, but when I boot that kernel, the initrd *seems* to be corrupt, as it cannot find my SCSI modules, and the boot hangs with VFS: cannot open root device 08:01.
It sounds like you took all the apropriate steps. Maybe the kernel you downloaded was corrupted. Also did you do a "lilo" before trying to reboot the new kernel; then a "depmod -a" after rebooting?
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From: "Eric Brown" <ericbr@oz.net> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:52:44 -0800 Message-ID: <00bd01c05aed$f6212450$6664a8c0@MECHAGHIDRA> Subject: RE: [SLE] Installing new kernel... You know, I *thought* I had rerun lilo, but when I updated the kernel (again), then ran mk_initrd and lilo, it rebooted OK. Thanks for the help! -----Original Message----- From: zentara@gnat3.gnat.net [mailto:zentara@gnat3.gnat.net]On Behalf Of zentara Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 6:59 AM To: ericbr@oz.net Cc: 'Suse-Linux-E' Subject: Re: [SLE] Installing new kernel... <p>Eric Brown wrote:
Is there a SuSE-specific sequence necessary to install a new kernel? If
so,
is it documented anywhere?
First, I tried to install the 2.2.16 kernel from the SuSE mirror at ftp.twoguys.org:/suse/update/6.4/kernel-2.2.16/k_smp.rpm . The update succeeded, but when I boot that kernel, the initrd *seems* to be corrupt, as it cannot find my SCSI modules, and the boot hangs with VFS: cannot open root device 08:01.
It sounds like you took all the apropriate steps. Maybe the kernel you downloaded was corrupted. Also did you do a "lilo" before trying to reboot the new kernel; then a "depmod -a" after rebooting? -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
From: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:15:37 +0100 Message-Id: <00113023153703.02830@buffy> Subject: Re: [SLE] Installing new kernel... On Thursday 30 November 2000 17:52, Eric Brown wrote:
You know, I *thought* I had rerun lilo, but when I updated the kernel (again), then ran mk_initrd and lilo, it rebooted OK.
Thanks for the help!
Mmm.. and the moral of this story is ? (to the tune of Hi Ho from Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs" LIIIIIIII LOOOOOOOOOOOOO! LIIIIIIII LOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Lye,lo lye lo, it's off to work we go... Cliff
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