Fwd: Running Quake3 On Linux
Yes i know it's a tired and used problem and i've searched the net on = this one but the answers i receive just don't seem to work so here goes. I'm running SuSE 7.2 using the latest GeForce 2 (Creative Titanium) with = the latest Nvidia drivers (downloaded from Nvidia's site). When i run quake3, i get the following: bash-2.05# quake3 +set r_gldriver /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 Q3 1.11 linux-i386 Nov 24 1999 ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: /root/.q3a/baseq3 ./baseq3/pak0.pk3 (3539 files) ./baseq3 ---------------------- execing default.cfg execing q3config.cfg couldn't exec autoexec.cfg ----- Client Initialization ----- ----- Initializing Renderer ---- ------------------------------- ----- Client Initialization Complete ----- --- Common Initialization Complete --- Opening IP socket: localhost:27960 Hostname: kananga.domination Alias: kananga IP: 192.168.50.5 ----- R_Init ----- ...loading /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: Initializing OpenGL display ...setting mode 3: 640 480 Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.0 XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 640x480 Couldn't get a visual ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3) ...loading libMesaVoodooGL.so: QGL_Init: Can't load libMesaVoodooGL.so = from /etc/ld.so.conf or current dir: libglide2x.so: cannot load shared = object file: No such file or directory failed ...loading libGL.so: Initializing OpenGL display ...setting mode 3: 640 480 Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.0 XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 640x480 Couldn't get a visual ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3) ----- CL_Shutdown ----- RE_Shutdown( 1 ) ----------------------- ----- CL_Shutdown ----- ----------------------- Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I *DO* have a 640x480 mode on my machine and i can switch to it using = the ctrl+Alt+(+/=3D) key combo. However when setting it thru sax2, the = viewport is always too small for it. By this i mean that when using = 640x480, the whole screen moves when i move the mouse to any corner of = the screen. Another thing. When i try to run /usr/bin/gears i get the message : GLUT: Fatal Error in gears: visual with necessary capabilities not = found. If anybody has any ideas, i'd be most gratefull. For completeness i'm pasting my *enitire* XF86Config file below. #--------# # ?? SaX generated XFree86 config file ?? # Created on: 2002-06-09. # # Version: 4.3 # Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax@suse.de>, 2001 # # Automatically generated by SaX2 (4.3) # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! # Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin7/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kwintv" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/baekmuk" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/japanese" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/sgi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/xtest" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" EndSection Section "Module" Load "type1" Load "speedo" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "glx" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "Keyboard" Identifier "Keyboard[0]" Option "Protocol" "Standard" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "mouse" Identifier "Mouse[1]" Option "ButtonNumber" "5" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "InputFashion" "Mouse" Option "Name" "Autodetection" Option "Protocol" "imps/2" Option "Vendor" "Sysp" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "Monitor" HorizSync 15-72 Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "DDC-Probed" VendorName "DDC-Probed" VertRefresh 30-87 UseModes "Modes[0]" EndSection Section "Modes" Identifier "Modes[0]" Modeline "1280x1024" 119.81 1280 1296 1552 1736 1024 1024 1035 1070 Modeline "1152x870" 100.22 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1152x870" 107.71 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1024x768" 78.53 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "1024x768" 88.73 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "800x600" 48.05 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "800x600" 54.29 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "640x480" 30.75 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 Modeline "640x480" 34.74 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 Modeline "1152x870" 100.22 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1152x870" 107.71 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1024x768" 78.53 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "1024x768" 88.73 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "800x600" 48.05 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "800x600" 54.29 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "640x480" 30.75 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 Modeline "640x480" 34.74 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 Modeline "1280x1024" 119.81 1280 1296 1552 1736 1024 1024 1035 1070 Modeline "1152x870" 100.22 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1152x870" 107.71 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1024x768" 78.53 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "1024x768" 88.73 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "800x600" 48.05 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "800x600" 54.29 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "640x480" 30.75 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 Modeline "640x480" 34.74 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 EndSection Section "Screen" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1152x870" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"=20 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1152x870" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1280x1024"=20 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1152x870" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" = "640x480"=20 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1152x870" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"=20 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1152x870" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"=20 EndSubSection Device "Device[0]" Identifier "Screen[0]" Monitor "Monitor[0]" EndSection Section "Device" BoardName "GeForce 2 GTS (rev 1)" BusID "1:0:0" Driver "nv" Identifier "Device[0]" Screen 0 VendorName "Nvidia" EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout[all]" InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer" Option "Clone" "off" Option "Xinerama" "off" Screen "Screen[0]" EndSection Section "DRI" Group "video" Mode 0660 EndSection -- Best regards, clifford mailto:clifford.okoro@isa.co.uk
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 11:32:41AM +0100, clifford wrote:
I'm running SuSE 7.2 using the latest GeForce 2 (Creative Titanium) with = the latest Nvidia drivers (downloaded from Nvidia's site).
Another thing. When i try to run /usr/bin/gears i get the message : GLUT: Fatal Error in gears: visual with necessary capabilities not = found.
If anybody has any ideas, i'd be most gratefull.
There are a couple of things that look suspicious to me. First, I have a geforce2go, and my driver section uses "nvidia" instead of "nv". I think the nv driver is a generic nvidia driver for older TNT type cards. Driver "nv" <-- change to nvidia? Second, if you can't run gears, something is not right with your OpenGL setup which could be related to the above. You should have a link in /usr/lib that looks likes this (although I think I am one generation behind on the latest nvidia release): libGL.so -> GL/libGL.so.1.0.2880.nv_glx* After I upgraded my nvidia drivers a few generations back, I no longer had to set the video driver on the command line to start quake3. I just run "quake3". With older versions of the driver, my start line looked like this: quake3 +set vid_ref glx +set gl_driver libGL.so +set sndchannels 1 This is a tangent, but I recently was able to play Quake3 Team Arena for the first time thanks to Linux. I bought it almost 2 years ago but it always crashed Windows when I tried to run it. Last year, I stopped using Windows completely (except on rare occassions when work forces me to) and the game just sat on my shelf. After loading SuSE 8.0 and getting Q3 running smoothly, I gave Team Arena a try in Linux and it worked great! So, Linux enabled me to play a Windows game that I otherwise would never have been able to play. Ironic. Hats off the id software people who always come through with Linux ports. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Linux soldat -- 8.0 SuSE panzer division Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net
--- clifford <clifford.okoro@isa.co.uk> wrote:
Yes i know it's a tired and used problem and i've searched the net on = this one but the answers i receive just don't seem to work so here goes.
A couple of comments/questions: 1. The reference to the "nv" driver in the Device section of you XF86Config file definitely needs to be changed to "nvidia". You may also want to try running "switch2nvidia" -- I did not have to do this when I installed my nvidia drivers, but some have mentioned success after running this script. 2. You mentioned you are running the latest nvidia drivers -- are these the 2960 drivers? If so, you may want to consider stepping back a generation to the 2880 drivers. I had several problems with the 2960 drivers but quake3 runs great for me with the 2880 drivers. 3. How did you install the drivers? Did you download and install the nvidia_kernel and nvidia_glx rpms designated for SuSE and install them in that order? Or did you download the sources for the kernel and glx drivers and do rpm --rebuild? If you had older nvidia drivers, did you uninstall them first per the nvidia README? 4. Do you get the nvidia splash screen when you boot the computer or restart the X server? 5. What does 3DDiag tell you? The answers to some of these questions may help in determining you problem. Regards, Charles __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
One other thing that catches my attention. Somewhere in the lines of the startup is a comment about falling back to the Mesa drivers. I do believe this is default for Q3A. Howvever, on that note It is highly recommended that you "do not" have the Mesa and nVidia drivers installed at the same time. If you do have both drivers install then this may very well be the problem since these two drivers conflict and cause problems for each other. If the mesasoft drivers are installed remove them with "rpm -e meassoft" and see if gears and Q3A will run (you may have to restart and/or issue command "swithch2nvidia_glx") If you indeed had mesa drivers on and removed them and things still don't seem right reinstall the nVidia drivers (since on some systems installing nVidia drivers with mesasoft drivers present will hose the nvidia driver installation). If you need to reinstall the nVidia drivers try any or both of these methods. rpm -Uhv NVIDIA_GLX-blahblahblah.rpm and the same for the kernel drivers. If this doesn't seem to do the trick, then try rpm -Uhv NVIDIA_GLX-blahblah.rpm --nodeps --force rpm -Uhv NVIDIA_kernel-blahblah.rpm --force HTH, Curtis On Thursday 13 June 2002 03:32, clifford wrote:
Yes i know it's a tired and used problem and i've searched the net on = this one but the answers i receive just don't seem to work so here goes.
I'm running SuSE 7.2 using the latest GeForce 2 (Creative Titanium) with = the latest Nvidia drivers (downloaded from Nvidia's site).
When i run quake3, i get the following:
bash-2.05# quake3 +set r_gldriver /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 Q3 1.11 linux-i386 Nov 24 1999 ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: /root/.q3a/baseq3 ./baseq3/pak0.pk3 (3539 files) ./baseq3
---------------------- execing default.cfg execing q3config.cfg couldn't exec autoexec.cfg ----- Client Initialization ----- ----- Initializing Renderer ---- ------------------------------- ----- Client Initialization Complete ----- --- Common Initialization Complete --- Opening IP socket: localhost:27960 Hostname: kananga.domination Alias: kananga IP: 192.168.50.5 ----- R_Init ----- ...loading /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: Initializing OpenGL display ...setting mode 3: 640 480 Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.0 XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 640x480 Couldn't get a visual ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3) ...loading libMesaVoodooGL.so: QGL_Init: Can't load libMesaVoodooGL.so = from /etc/ld.so.conf or current dir: libglide2x.so: cannot load shared = object file: No such file or directory failed ...loading libGL.so: Initializing OpenGL display ...setting mode 3: 640 480 Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.0 XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 640x480 Couldn't get a visual ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3) ----- CL_Shutdown ----- RE_Shutdown( 1 ) ----------------------- ----- CL_Shutdown ----- ----------------------- Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
I *DO* have a 640x480 mode on my machine and i can switch to it using = the ctrl+Alt+(+/=3D) key combo. However when setting it thru sax2, the = viewport is always too small for it. By this i mean that when using = 640x480, the whole screen moves when i move the mouse to any corner of = the screen.
Another thing. When i try to run /usr/bin/gears i get the message : GLUT: Fatal Error in gears: visual with necessary capabilities not = found.
If anybody has any ideas, i'd be most gratefull.
For completeness i'm pasting my *enitire* XF86Config file below.
#--------# # ?? SaX generated XFree86 config file ?? # Created on: 2002-06-09. # # Version: 4.3 # Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax@suse.de>, 2001 # # Automatically generated by SaX2 (4.3) # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! #
Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin7/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kwintv" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/baekmuk" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/japanese" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/sgi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/xtest" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" EndSection
Section "ServerFlags" EndSection
Section "Module" Load "type1" Load "speedo" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "glx" EndSection
Section "InputDevice" Driver "Keyboard" Identifier "Keyboard[0]" Option "Protocol" "Standard" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" EndSection
Section "InputDevice" Driver "mouse" Identifier "Mouse[1]" Option "ButtonNumber" "5" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "InputFashion" "Mouse" Option "Name" "Autodetection" Option "Protocol" "imps/2" Option "Vendor" "Sysp" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection
Section "Monitor" HorizSync 15-72 Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "DDC-Probed" VendorName "DDC-Probed" VertRefresh 30-87 UseModes "Modes[0]" EndSection
Section "Modes" Identifier "Modes[0]" Modeline "1280x1024" 119.81 1280 1296 1552 1736 1024 1024 1035 1070 Modeline "1152x870" 100.22 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1152x870" 107.71 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1024x768" 78.53 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "1024x768" 88.73 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "800x600" 48.05 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "800x600" 54.29 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "640x480" 30.75 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 Modeline "640x480" 34.74 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 Modeline "1152x870" 100.22 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1152x870" 107.71 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1024x768" 78.53 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "1024x768" 88.73 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "800x600" 48.05 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "800x600" 54.29 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "640x480" 30.75 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 Modeline "640x480" 34.74 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 Modeline "1280x1024" 119.81 1280 1296 1552 1736 1024 1024 1035 1070 Modeline "1152x870" 100.22 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1152x870" 107.71 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 881 909 Modeline "1024x768" 78.53 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "1024x768" 88.73 1024 1040 1216 1400 768 768 779 802 Modeline "800x600" 48.05 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "800x600" 54.29 800 816 928 1072 600 600 611 626 Modeline "640x480" 30.75 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 Modeline "640x480" 34.74 640 656 720 864 480 480 491 501 EndSection
Section "Screen" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1152x870" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"=20 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1152x870" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1280x1024"=20 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1152x870" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" = "640x480"=20 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1152x870" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"=20 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1152x870" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"=20 EndSubSection Device "Device[0]" Identifier "Screen[0]" Monitor "Monitor[0]" EndSection
Section "Device" BoardName "GeForce 2 GTS (rev 1)" BusID "1:0:0" Driver "nv" Identifier "Device[0]" Screen 0 VendorName "Nvidia" EndSection
Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout[all]" InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer" Option "Clone" "off" Option "Xinerama" "off" Screen "Screen[0]" EndSection
Section "DRI" Group "video" Mode 0660 EndSection
--- Curtis Rey <crrey@charter.net> wrote:
One other thing that catches my attention. Somewhere in the lines of the startup is a comment about falling back to the Mesa drivers.
I had a problem with a conflict between my nvidia drivers and the default mesa drivers. Thanks to the help of another reader on this list, tt turns out to be a simple symlink fix. I posted the issue and the "SOLVED" response with the reader's fix back in May. Look for a thread called "nvidia and mesa". Regards, Chess __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
ADSL has finaly arrived in my area and I am thinking of using it. My question - what are the arguments for and against modems that connect via USB and Ethernet. About all I know is the Usb modem is the cheaper of the two. Also what brand names can you recommend for use with linux ? my local supplier wants AUS$100 to configer a windoze box no mention of linux at all. What's Suse like at installing this stuff ? Thanks Rob
I use the Alcatel USB 'frog' at home, works really well with SuSE, and there's an article in the SuSE SDB about installing it
ADSL has finaly arrived in my area and I am thinking of using it. My question - what are the arguments for and against modems that connect via USB and Ethernet. About all I know is the Usb modem is the cheaper of the two. Also what brand names can you recommend for use with linux ? my local supplier wants AUS$100 to configer a windoze box no mention of linux at all. What's Suse like at installing this stuff ? -- James Ogley, Unix Systems Administrator, Pinnacle Insurance Plc james.ogley@pinnacle.co.uk www.pinnacle.co.uk +44 (0) 20 8731 3619 Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.0) This email was created and sent with Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 NEW: Advogato diary at www.advogato.org/person/riggwelter
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On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 07:28:58PM +0800, robbates@emerge.net.au wrote:
ADSL has finaly arrived in my area and I am thinking of using it. My question - what are the arguments for and against modems that connect via USB and Ethernet. About all I know is the Usb modem is the cheaper of the two.
USB: +Connect directly to the PC - do not require the PC to have a NIC. +Usually cheaper -Normally require vendor-provided drivers - are they available? -Can use a significant proportion of the bandwidth available on USB1.1 -Can only connect to 1 PC - need to configure the host PC as a router to allow a LAN to access the net. Ethernet: +Leaves the USB bandwidth free for other devices (digital cameras, Flash drives, etc.) +Can connect direct to a hub/switch to allow the whole LAN direct access to the net (although this is not advisable without a firewall) +No special drivers required (AFAIK) -Usually more expensive -Require host PC to have a NIC - more expense if this is not already the case. -- David Smith Work Email: Dave.Smith@st.com STMicroelectronics Home Email: David.Smith@ds-electronics.co.uk Bristol, England
USB: +Connect directly to the PC - do not require the PC to have a NIC. +Usually cheaper -Normally require vendor-provided drivers - are they available? -Can use a significant proportion of the bandwidth available on USB1.1 -Can only connect to 1 PC - need to configure the host PC as a router to allow a LAN to access the net.
Ethernet: +Leaves the USB bandwidth free for other devices (digital cameras, Flash drives, etc.) +Can connect direct to a hub/switch to allow the whole LAN direct access to the net (although this is not advisable without a firewall) +No special drivers required (AFAIK) -Usually more expensive -Require host PC to have a NIC - more expense if this is not already the case.
A cheap NIC would work well however, so this cost is not a big problem. Praise
Thanks guys, your answers have shed some valuable light on this matter for me. Based on the answers I will go the ethernet route. Can't say I lke the idea of relying on third party drivers plus it apears a more flexible solution. Rob
Konichiwa All, Got it running last night. The NVidia drivers were not built for the 'i386' kernel and so were not being loaded when requested. I took a gamble and switched to the 'Pentium optimized' kernel (I use an Athlon), crossed my fingers and rebooted. System came up and, lo and behold, the Nvidia logo came up on screen. Ran '/usr/bin/gears' and it worked. Slotted in the Quake3 cd. Mounted it and ran it from the CD. Soon i was kicking 'Sarge's butt all over the place. Smooth as silk. Run's better than in winME. Which was a surprise to me. Message to ID : More grease to your elbow. You continue to release linux versions of your games (unlike 3Drealm's Max Payne) and we will continue to *buy* them. Nice ;-) My thanxs to you all. -- Clifford Oh No!! It's the Powerpuff girls. Curses! Curses!! Curses!!!
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