Stefan Dirsch wrote:

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 04:13:05AM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:

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Stefan Dirsch wrote:

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I don't see what the openSUSE community can do here. ATI is only interested in bugs, if they affect and being reported by big vendors like e.g. HP. But these big vendors are only interested in using SLES/SLED.

Hmm..

Stefan, I'm not sure I follow here. Isn't openSuSE the forerunner for what will end up in SLES/SLED? If so, it just seems to make more sense from a quality assurance perspective to address any issues at the beta (openSuSE) stage before they end up having to (react) to problems with SLES/SLED. The proactive/reactive issue. Moving the bug identification/resolution a bit further upstream if you will.

The absolute crushing blow ATI is dealing its users by dropping support for all R300-R500 cards is simply amazing. Nvidia still provides support for all it cards with the legacy driver. If there is ever a contact at ATI it would be worth suggesting a similar "legacy driver". That just seems like common sense. But then that too is uncommon in todays world. (i.e. a global economy built on "credit default swaps" -- give me a break...)

Hopefully we can find someone with a fglrx.com email address that will entertain some candid feedback and suggestions instead of the current "linux driver feedback" which from what I can tell == /dev/null

If you're interested in becoming a beta tester for the fglrx driver, just let me know. Then you can play the proxy between the openSUSE community and ATI and will notice that ATI ignores the feedback of beta testers as well.

Best regards, Stefan

Oh, Great?! That's encouraging... It seems that ATI commitment to its Linux driver program is superficial at best. That's is the real bottom line here. It's a "take what you get" mentality. All of it's great lip service about wanting "Linux Driver Feedback" and "being interest" in resolving driver issues, is not worth the silicon its written on. You have worked far more of these issues than I have, and we have worked issues together through bugzilla at lease since late 2007, but I have never in my life seen the absolute ignoring of Linux user driver problems than I have in the past 6-8 months. As mentioned, I have filed ATI feedback cases on every single release since 8-10, provided all logs, confs, hardware specks, and it is very apparent that ATI hasn't lifted a finger to even try and identify the issue. The only finger lifted was to hit the [del] key. It has had a positive impact though. I will never purchase another laptop with ATI hardware in it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org