Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote:

If you want an easier installation, I suggest Red Hat 5.0. It allows for "kickstart" installation, making the installation of similar configurations (ideal for networks) faster and more efficient.

Thanks but no-thanks. Bob Young and gang are a great group of people, and RedHat has contributed MUCH to the Linux community at large, so I'm not knocking them, but their distribution has its own set of problems. I prefer to stay with a particular distribution and become as familiar with it as possible. My whole approach to Linux is not to learn the academics, I prefer a business approach. That means I am less concerned about kernel intracacies than I am about building servers and workstations. I want my customers and those I work for to be able to realize the power and economy that Linux brings to the table. POWER + ECONOMY - that is Linux in a nutshell! SuSE excells at both server and workstation builds, and my previous comments were intended more for the SuSE team than anyone else, and perhaps my comments, as found in the archives, will help a newbie get thru the process - as it exists today. The folks at SuSE are extremely responsive to the forum here, and we will see many of the suggestions and improvements people are making here in future releases. In this forum, we're not speaking to a wall here as is the case with Microsloth, Novell, Informix, IBM and others. As Michael J. Fox said in "Back to the Future": "Stay with me on the changes ..." Incidently, I saw Jon "maddog" Hall this past Monday night at a Linux user group meeting here in South Florida. Jon is the guy who made the DEC Alpha port happen. (See the Linux Journal's archives for more info on the DEC Alpha & Linux port) Jon has become a real "Linux Evangelist" now, and has a great presentation about overcoming the classic objections people make about using Linux. I'll post a link to his slides once he puts them on the web - which should be this week or the next. My previous comment about FVWM95 is actually a quote of what Jon made directly to RedHat. In a nutshell, his thinking is that distributors of Linux need to make Linux "appear" on the desktop as much like Microsloth's stuff, because that's the current market orientation of some 200 million Win95/NT/etc users and MIS professionals. While I respect the use of other window managers - and SuSE includes the most of them "right out of the box" - Win95/NTis what the unwashed masses are training for and using. The more comfort you bring to the environment, the more people will say "Hey, not bad - and it's just like Windows 95 - and gosh, the licensing is free ... hey - our organization could roll this out and save a ton of money!" POWER + ECONOMY! Not to mention scalability, openness etc. They're used to the Start Menu concept, brain dead installs and they want dialup connectivity that is simple to configure. Large organizations are sick of the configuration management issues, the lockups and the piss-poor support from Microsoft and the others. They are sick of being clobbered with gouge rates on licensing. The next 18 months is THE WINDOW of opportunity for Linux. -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e