[opensuse] A question to all users of VLC media player
I am using openSUSE 13.2 and have -- as far as I know -- all the additional necessary files installed for VLC *but* I cannot view Blu-ray discs using vlc! :'( By "all the necessary files" installed I mean libbluray, libbdplus, and libaacs. When I insert a Bd disc it is not recognised by the system and is not mounted, but I can 'mount' it by using dolphin. However, going this way vlc will not play the disc properly: the picture moves for ~5 seconds then freezes for ~5 seconds....and so it goes on. I have a copy of VLC installed on my Windows 7 partition and here I have no problems viewing Bd discs. Any clues, please, why Bd discs won't play on my system even though videolan.org is indicating to me that by installing libbluray, libbdplus and libaacs provide me with the necessaries (or so I think) to be able to play Bd discs? BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-03-12 06:49, Basil Chupin wrote:
I am using openSUSE 13.2 and have -- as far as I know -- all the additional necessary files installed for VLC *but* I cannot view Blu-ray discs using vlc! :'( By "all the necessary files" installed I mean libbluray, libbdplus, and libaacs.
I don't own a BR reader... but those things are "protected", and breaking the protection is not as simple as for DVDs. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Am 12.03.2016 um 13:13 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2016-03-12 06:49, Basil Chupin wrote:
I am using openSUSE 13.2 and have -- as far as I know -- all the additional necessary files installed for VLC *but* I cannot view Blu-ray discs using vlc! :'( By "all the necessary files" installed I mean libbluray, libbdplus, and libaacs.
I don't own a BR reader... but those things are "protected", and breaking the protection is not as simple as for DVDs.
I guess you have the things from packman... there are encrypted and unencrypted (verschlüsselt/unverschlüsselt, sorry if my transaltion is wrong...) Blu-rays. VLC can play unecrypted blu-rays out of the (packman-)box. For enrytpted ones you need an update of libaacs, but I don't know where to find the correct one right now... Alternatively you can install makeMKV that should play encrypted blu.-rays also: https://software.opensuse.org/package/makemkv hth Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 13/03/16 00:00, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 12.03.2016 um 13:13 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2016-03-12 06:49, Basil Chupin wrote:
I am using openSUSE 13.2 and have -- as far as I know -- all the additional necessary files installed for VLC *but* I cannot view Blu-ray discs using vlc! :'( By "all the necessary files" installed I mean libbluray, libbdplus, and libaacs.
I don't own a BR reader... but those things are "protected", and breaking the protection is not as simple as for DVDs.
I guess you have the things from packman...
there are encrypted and unencrypted (verschlüsselt/unverschlüsselt, sorry if my transaltion is wrong...) Blu-rays.
VLC can play unecrypted blu-rays out of the (packman-)box. For enrytpted ones you need an update of libaacs, but I don't know where to find the correct one right now...
Alternatively you can install makeMKV that should play encrypted blu.-rays also: https://software.opensuse.org/package/makemkv
hth Daniel
Thanks Daniel. I installed Makemkv on my 13.2 system but it won't "perform" -- comes up with a "Fatal Error" but won't tell me what it is. At some stage I may try it on Leap of Faith to see if it performs better there. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/03/16 23:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-03-12 06:49, Basil Chupin wrote:
I am using openSUSE 13.2 and have -- as far as I know -- all the additional necessary files installed for VLC *but* I cannot view Blu-ray discs using vlc! :'( By "all the necessary files" installed I mean libbluray, libbdplus, and libaacs. I don't own a BR reader... but those things are "protected",
Thank you, Carlos, I was aware of this.
and breaking the protection is not as simple as for DVDs.
Yes it is as easy -- if you know where to go. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/14/2016 11:48 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 12/03/16 23:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-03-12 06:49, Basil Chupin wrote:
I am using openSUSE 13.2 and have -- as far as I know -- all the additional necessary files installed for VLC *but* I cannot view Blu-ray discs using vlc! :'( By "all the necessary files" installed I mean libbluray, libbdplus, and libaacs. I don't own a BR reader... but those things are "protected", Thank you, Carlos, I was aware of this.
and breaking the protection is not as simple as for DVDs. Yes it is as easy -- if you know where to go. So why don't you tell us all?
BC
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On 15/03/16 17:18, doug wrote:
On 03/14/2016 11:48 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 12/03/16 23:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-03-12 06:49, Basil Chupin wrote:
I am using openSUSE 13.2 and have -- as far as I know -- all the additional necessary files installed for VLC *but* I cannot view Blu-ray discs using vlc! :'( By "all the necessary files" installed I mean libbluray, libbdplus, and libaacs. I don't own a BR reader... but those things are "protected", Thank you, Carlos, I was aware of this.
and breaking the protection is not as simple as for DVDs. Yes it is as easy -- if you know where to go. So why don't you tell us all?
Because it has nothing to do with Linux. However, just to give you something to follow up on :-) , have a look at the entries in the Wikipedia for- AnyDVD; and Cinavia but here look closely at the very end under External Links. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 15/03/2016 08:15, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Because it has nothing to do with Linux.
so, there is nothing like free lbdvdcss? BD is not loved by Linux. For example there is no free authoring tool for BD. That said my own BD are mostly mp4 files, I don't really need the chapter system (I have a windows license for an authoring tool so old I don't know if it still works) I nearly never read commercials BD, my son gave me one reader as gift, I only use it to test my own BD :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 15/03/16 18:42, jdd wrote:
Le 15/03/2016 08:15, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Because it has nothing to do with Linux.
so, there is nothing like free lbdvdcss?
BD is not loved by Linux. For example there is no free authoring tool for BD.
That said my own BD are mostly mp4 files, I don't really need the chapter system (I have a windows license for an authoring tool so old I don't know if it still works)
I nearly never read commercials BD, my son gave me one reader as gift, I only use it to test my own BD :-)
jdd
I think that at this point this whole thread is getting waaaayyy off the topic. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 15/03/16 23:11, jdd wrote:
Le 15/03/2016 11:35, Basil Chupin a écrit :
I think that at this point this whole thread is getting waaaayyy off the topic.
didn't you wanted to read a BD?
jdd
No, I don't think that that is what I was asking about. What I was asking about was being able to PLAY/VIEW a movie which was on a Bd disc. I can "read" the contents of a Bd disc. That is, I can- * insert a Bd disc into the drive; * the system (oS 13.2) will not recognise it and so not mount it; * but using dolphin I can then mount the Bd disc; and * using dolphin I can read the contents of the Bd My problem is that VLC or any of the other video player will play the contents of the Bd. I am not sure but I thought I read somewhere that Ubuntu has no problems with playing Bd discs. As I said, I am not sure if this is what I read so can anyone confirm this? BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/15/2016 08:00 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 15/03/16 23:11, jdd wrote:
Le 15/03/2016 11:35, Basil Chupin a écrit :
I think that at this point this whole thread is getting waaaayyy off the topic. didn't you wanted to read a BD?
jdd No, I don't think that that is what I was asking about.
What I was asking about was being able to PLAY/VIEW a movie which was on a Bd disc.
I can "read" the contents of a Bd disc. That is, I can-
* insert a Bd disc into the drive;
* the system (oS 13.2) will not recognise it and so not mount it;
* but using dolphin I can then mount the Bd disc; and
* using dolphin I can read the contents of the Bd
My problem is that VLC or any of the other video player will play the contents of the Bd.
I am not sure but I thought I read somewhere that Ubuntu has no problems with playing Bd discs. As I said, I am not sure if this is what I read so can anyone confirm this?
BC
http://askubuntu.com/questions/565516/can-linux-play-blu-rays -- Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. You must learn to be slow in a hurry. -Wyatt Earp- _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 16/03/16 01:18, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 03/15/2016 08:00 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 15/03/16 23:11, jdd wrote:
Le 15/03/2016 11:35, Basil Chupin a écrit :
I think that at this point this whole thread is getting waaaayyy off the topic. didn't you wanted to read a BD?
jdd No, I don't think that that is what I was asking about.
What I was asking about was being able to PLAY/VIEW a movie which was on a Bd disc.
I can "read" the contents of a Bd disc. That is, I can-
* insert a Bd disc into the drive;
* the system (oS 13.2) will not recognise it and so not mount it;
* but using dolphin I can then mount the Bd disc; and
* using dolphin I can read the contents of the Bd
My problem is that VLC or any of the other video player will play the contents of the Bd.
I am not sure but I thought I read somewhere that Ubuntu has no problems with playing Bd discs. As I said, I am not sure if this is what I read so can anyone confirm this?
BC
http://askubuntu.com/questions/565516/can-linux-play-blu-rays
Many thanks, Billie. I will reread what is in that "article" later today. But the first impression is that openSUSE is an anal-retentive distro. As I understand it, what a sage once said, "If you are fooling around then use Linux but if you want your computer to do some serious work then you need Windows". Or at least not openSUSE is what the sage meant....? BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 15/03/2016 15:52, Basil Chupin a écrit :
As I understand it, what a sage once said, "If you are fooling around then use Linux but if you want your computer to do some serious work then you need Windows". Or at least not openSUSE is what the sage meant....?
always was. But that said, I know much more windows computers bugging than linux ones... jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 16/03/16 02:00, jdd wrote:
Le 15/03/2016 15:52, Basil Chupin a écrit :
As I understand it, what a sage once said, "If you are fooling around then use Linux but if you want your computer to do some serious work then you need Windows". Or at least not openSUSE is what the sage meant....?
always was. But that said, I know much more windows computers bugging than linux ones...
And so? I also have heard about many bugs in Windows but, you know, I have never been "bugged" by a single one of them? Not a single one. Now, that's not a single one over the past 30+ years. Incredible, isn't it? And so the often stated argument about "I know much more windows computers bugging than linux ones..." is simply BS and will only frighten children and ding-a-lings and those who ring up Support with questions like the following: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3495800/It-power-switch-suppo... BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.5.0-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 16/03/16 01:18, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 03/15/2016 08:00 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 15/03/16 23:11, jdd wrote:
Le 15/03/2016 11:35, Basil Chupin a écrit :
I think that at this point this whole thread is getting waaaayyy off the topic. didn't you wanted to read a BD?
jdd No, I don't think that that is what I was asking about.
What I was asking about was being able to PLAY/VIEW a movie which was on a Bd disc.
I can "read" the contents of a Bd disc. That is, I can-
* insert a Bd disc into the drive;
* the system (oS 13.2) will not recognise it and so not mount it;
* but using dolphin I can then mount the Bd disc; and
* using dolphin I can read the contents of the Bd
My problem is that VLC or any of the other video player will play the contents of the Bd.
I am not sure but I thought I read somewhere that Ubuntu has no problems with playing Bd discs. As I said, I am not sure if this is what I read so can anyone confirm this?
BC
http://askubuntu.com/questions/565516/can-linux-play-blu-rays
Not worth the hassle trying to use Linux to view Blu-Ray discs, Billie. Simply not worth the blood pressure or the angst. I admit that I simply skimmed over the above article and paid scant attention to what is in it but I seem to remember that Ubuntu actually pays for the licence to be able to play Bd discs -- but I may wrong and so you can correct me. But whatever..... it is simply so much better to simply have Windows #7 installed and then the necessary apps to be able to play discs whether they be DVDs or Blu-Rays ('straight' or 3Ds). Fart arsing around in Linux just to be able to view Bds is simply not worth the time just to satisfy the ideology of FOSS anal-retentives. I am all for Linux but at the same time I am pragmatic enough to use something non-linux to get things done. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.5.0-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 15/03/2016 14:00, Basil Chupin a écrit :
* using dolphin I can read the contents of the Bd
ok, can you (just for a test) copy a video file from the BD to the hard drive and read it from there? on the beginning can you read with VLC the files located in the STREAM folder? (in fact with VLC or any other reader) if the answer is ye (you can read the files individually), then the BD structure is not seen by VLC - a bug that I often encounter. if not may be you need a decoder for Linux, all the links you wrote where for windows jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 16/03/16 01:28, jdd wrote:
Le 15/03/2016 14:00, Basil Chupin a écrit :
* using dolphin I can read the contents of the Bd
ok, can you (just for a test) copy a video file from the BD to the hard drive and read it from there? on the beginning can you read with VLC the files located in the STREAM folder? (in fact with VLC or any other reader)
if the answer is ye (you can read the files individually), then the BD structure is not seen by VLC - a bug that I often encounter.
if not may be you need a decoder for Linux, all the links you wrote where for windows
jdd
jdd, I think it goes without saying that the decoder in Linux cannot handle the files properly -- or, rather, as I already wrote earlier in this thread, Linux CAN read and try and display these files *BUT* the output is less than perfect and is 'staggered': 5 seconds of good picture and sound and then 5 seconds of frozen picture/sound.....ad finitum. Play the same in VLC in Windows and everything is perfection. "Windows VLC good, Linux VLC bad. UGH!". BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.5.0-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2016-03-18 at 22:36 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
jdd, I think it goes without saying that the decoder in Linux cannot handle the files properly -- or, rather, as I already wrote earlier in this thread, Linux CAN read and try and display these files *BUT* the output is less than perfect and is 'staggered': 5 seconds of good picture and sound and then 5 seconds of frozen picture/sound.....ad finitum.
I don't know about BD, but I don't have any such symptoms playing movies in Linux. If you experience that bad quality, there is something wrong with your system. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlbr69QACgkQtTMYHG2NR9USJQCfcE8tzlZlHUMgS3j38aoKYbn/ dkAAn2ksU9xHRqETyr+FYWA0Xqofnmyc =RAE7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 18/03/2016 12:36, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Play the same in VLC in Windows and everything is perfection.
"Windows VLC good, Linux VLC bad. UGH!".
When you get a BD writer, you get also a BD reader and the associated codecs, but not in Linux. You may also get better video codecs from NVidia (for example) than the Linux ones. Last time I checked, NVidia Windows drivers where much better than Linux ones that seems a large piece of crap (at least for my old nvidia card - I have to use nouveau), so the blame is for the hardware manufacturers. and I don't know if you use windows often and how. I used windows a lot 20 years ago and nearly no more now. I progressively migrated all my applications to Linux. BUT... the last windows 10 I used last week in my win tablet (it891), that don't yet run openSUSE correctly, crashed twice is two days (freeze, reboot necessary), with only Firefox and thunderbird installed... AND my sons use only Windows and there is no month where I don't receive a phone call "dad, my computer is desperately slow" "dad this virus stops my computer", and so on. I, myself, had only *one* virus once, in a very special way, but it was 15 years ago. I don't surf where problems can come. I also receive Windows mail viruses or trojan by dozen each day, but I can even read them with openSUSE without danger. most operating system works when used with few well known applications, but Linux resists experiments much more that the competitor jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-03-15 04:48, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 12/03/16 23:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-03-12 06:49, Basil Chupin wrote:
I am using openSUSE 13.2 and have -- as far as I know -- all the additional necessary files installed for VLC *but* I cannot view Blu-ray discs using vlc! :'( By "all the necessary files" installed I mean libbluray, libbdplus, and libaacs. I don't own a BR reader... but those things are "protected",
Thank you, Carlos, I was aware of this.
and breaking the protection is not as simple as for DVDs.
Yes it is as easy -- if you know where to go.
With DVDs you do not need to go anywhere. You just install the decryption library from one of the repos in the community list in yast, click point click. There is a one click for it, too. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 15/03/16 21:03, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-03-15 04:48, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 12/03/16 23:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-03-12 06:49, Basil Chupin wrote:
I am using openSUSE 13.2 and have -- as far as I know -- all the additional necessary files installed for VLC *but* I cannot view Blu-ray discs using vlc! :'( By "all the necessary files" installed I mean libbluray, libbdplus, and libaacs. I don't own a BR reader... but those things are "protected", Thank you, Carlos, I was aware of this.
and breaking the protection is not as simple as for DVDs. Yes it is as easy -- if you know where to go. With DVDs you do not need to go anywhere. You just install the decryption library from one of the repos in the community list in yast, click point click. There is a one click for it, too.
Yes, we -- or at least I -- know this re the "old" DVDs which are written on 4.5GB and 8GB discs and which can be "massaged" with k9copy and k3b. This thread is about the current Blu-Ray discs and which I am unable to view using VLC in my installation of openSUSE 13.2. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 15/03/2016 12:10, Basil Chupin a écrit :
This thread is about the current Blu-Ray discs and which I am unable to view using VLC in my installation of openSUSE 13.2.
precisely. self made BD or comercial one? jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 15/03/16 23:12, jdd wrote:
Le 15/03/2016 12:10, Basil Chupin a écrit :
This thread is about the current Blu-Ray discs and which I am unable to view using VLC in my installation of openSUSE 13.2.
precisely. self made BD or comercial one?
jdd
Oh, I see now where this discussion has hit the proverbial brickwall. If I were to use a Bd disc to backup my data -- or whatever -- then I would have no problems with storing the data on the Bd discs nor reading that data. So, as a simple answer to your question about "...BD or comercial [sic] one?" the answer, of course, must be those which contain movies which are released on Blu-Ray discs. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 15/03/2016 14:09, Basil Chupin a écrit :
If I were to use a Bd disc to backup my data -- or whatever -- then I would have no problems with storing the data on the Bd discs nor reading that data.
don't think so :-(. Video BD structure is so ugly than readers are not always able to read written BD (I never had problem with commercial ones on these readers, but use then so little than it's not a proof), but my own authored BD where not always readable on the same machines (probably a bug of this windows soft, I don't know of any linux one)
So, as a simple answer to your question about "...BD or comercial [sic] one?" the answer, of course, must be those which contain movies which are released on Blu-Ray discs.
so you should need a decoder, may be read this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Blu-ray jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 12.03.2016 um 06:49 schrieb Basil Chupin:
I have a copy of VLC installed on my Windows 7 partition and here I have no problems viewing Bd discs.
Same software but different libraries. Windows comes with the necessary software to play BluRay. BR is designed to strip you of any rights that the owner of the BluRay doesn't want you to have - the owner is the guy who got your money, not you. You just got some plastic. If you're able to watch BR on your computer, that's a bonus, not a right. It just means that you jumped through enough hoops (JavaScript active countermeasures, HDMI encryption for audio and video just to name a few) to make someone on this planet happy. So here is your treat. Play dead. Come on. You know you want to. Good boy. A lot of people put a lot of money into a system to make sure DeCSS doesn't happen again. Instead of creating a perfect system, they build something which makes it frustrating to Linux users. Viewers have to invest a lot of time and effort into making BR work on Linux. Like spending four to five hours to follow obscure instructions on the Internet, installing software from strange places, threatening their own security and sanity. Just to watch a single movie. And then do the same when they want to watch the next because ... for some inexplicable reason, something breaks after the first one. To watch BR, you have to spend money. If the hardware key for your BR drive in your computer is spilled, you can be out of luck on Windows, too. Bottom line: If you're using Windows or Mac or a hardware BR player, good for you. If not: They are not meant for you, you thief! This might be of interest for you: https://defectivebydesign.org/ Regards, -- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla a.k.a. Philmann Dark "It's not the universe that's limited, it's our imagination. Follow me and I'll show you something beyond the limits." http://blog.pdark.de/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 13/03/16 02:06, Aaron Digulla wrote:
I have a copy of VLC installed on my Windows 7 partition and here I have no problems viewing Bd discs. Same software but different libraries. Windows comes with the necessary software to play BluRay. BR is designed to strip you of any rights that
Am 12.03.2016 um 06:49 schrieb Basil Chupin: the owner of the BluRay doesn't want you to have - the owner is the guy who got your money, not you. You just got some plastic. If you're able to watch BR on your computer, that's a bonus, not a right. It just means that you jumped through enough hoops (JavaScript active countermeasures, HDMI encryption for audio and video just to name a few) to make someone on this planet happy. So here is your treat. Play dead. Come on. You know you want to. Good boy.
A lot of people put a lot of money into a system to make sure DeCSS doesn't happen again. Instead of creating a perfect system, they build something which makes it frustrating to Linux users. Viewers have to invest a lot of time and effort into making BR work on Linux. Like spending four to five hours to follow obscure instructions on the Internet, installing software from strange places, threatening their own security and sanity. Just to watch a single movie. And then do the same when they want to watch the next because ... for some inexplicable reason, something breaks after the first one. To watch BR, you have to spend money. If the hardware key for your BR drive in your computer is spilled, you can be out of luck on Windows, too.
Bottom line: If you're using Windows or Mac or a hardware BR player, good for you. If not: They are not meant for you, you thief!
This might be of interest for you: https://defectivebydesign.org/
Regards,
Oh, Sir! Please do not be angry with me nor hit me again! I promise to try and avoid wanting Linux to be able to read and play Blu-Ray discs -- it is so naughty of me I know :-( . I'll just stay with what works and leave braindead Linux alone. ASIDE: I really don't know why those arty companies keep trying to come up with "protection" for their shoddy goods when as soon as a new attempt at "protection" is introduced it is "cracked" within hours. Why do they bother? BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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