Hi all, Does anyone know email client (for linux of course) that can send email through Yahoo smtp? Because I just configure KMail (version 1.2, KDE 2.1.2) to send mail via Yahoo smtp but fail. I've check the Yahoo help page, and it says that email client must support authentication. It also list several email clients (under windows unfortunately)... -- Verdi March -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Does anyone know email client (for linux of course) that can send email through Yahoo smtp? Because I just configure KMail (version 1.2, KDE 2.1.2) to send mail via Yahoo smtp but fail. I've check the Yahoo help page, and it says that email client must support authentication. It also list several email clients (under windows unfortunately)...
They switched it on yesterday didn't they? In the past 2 months (since the original notification), I've asked twice on this list how to configure for SMTP authentication, but no one has come up with an answer. My outbound email ground to a halt yesterday as well. :( The only option at the moment seems to be to switch to a mail client which supports SMTP authentication. Netscape 4 and 6 both do, and Evolution too, but if you want to stick with KMail you'll have to upgrade to the latest release candidate for KDE3. I'm not willing to do that (I need stability on my desktop) so I've switched to Netscape6. I had to leave all my old mail behind. :( I wish someone would tell me how to configure SuSE's Sendmail config to support SMTP authentication. I tried to figure it out myself but got nowhere. Surely someone must know how to do it? -- 12:47pm up 1 day, 22:19, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 12:54:41PM +0000, Derek Fountain wrote:
I wish someone would tell me how to configure SuSE's Sendmail config to support SMTP authentication. I tried to figure it out myself but got nowhere. Surely someone must know how to do it?
I can help you set up outbound SMTP on Postfix, but for security and sanity reasons, the first thing I do on a fresh SuSE install is remove sendmail and install postfix. Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ wielder of vi(m), an ancient, dangerous and powerful magic Don't get lost, show no fear, and you'll be ready for a new frontier -- d.w.
On Thursday 07 March 2002 1:17 pm, you wrote:
I can help you set up outbound SMTP on Postfix, but for security and sanity reasons, the first thing I do on a fresh SuSE install is remove sendmail and install postfix.
I'm keen to know more! I don't much care how it works, as long as it does. :) I only use sendmail because that's what SuSE put on the disk... ;) See my previous post for details on how I'd like it to work. -- 2:19pm up 1 day, 23:50, 1 user, load average: 0.26, 0.11, 0.06
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Derek Fountain wrote:
I'm keen to know more! I don't much care how it works, as long as it does. :) I only use sendmail because that's what SuSE put on the disk... ;) See my previous post for details on how I'd like it to work.
Sorry for the size of this note but I thought you'd like all the info!!! Let me know if it helps you. SuSE includes instructions at the following url to add the authentication you want. http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/sendmail_smtp_auth.html Also, I got the following instructions from the Redhat list. This will enable several modes of authentication/encryption that you might find interesting. This allows your clients to authenticate with your sendmail server with something other than clear text. *************** Please see the following instructions for setting up authentication with sendmail. This will allow LOGIN PLAIN to be authenticated using PAM. While not the greatest (clear text) it works for win clients by just checking their "server requires authentication" box and uses PAM for authentication with user id/password. pine clients can authenticate by adding "/user=userid" (userid is your real id) after the smtp server. pine will automatically pick the best level of authentication. If you want to use SASL encryption then check out the following link. http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-security/2001-Dec/0294.html ****************** This is from Rodolfo J. Paiz, rpaiz@indahaus.com The following are basic instructions on enabling SMTP AUTH on a late-model server. These instructions have been tested with Red Hat Linux 7.0 and 7.2, using sendmail versions 8.11.0 through 8.11.6 obtained in RPM form from Red Hat updates. They *should* work; however, if they don't, I will *ONLY* attempt to help people resolve issues with SMTP AUTH on redhat-list or enigma-list, so that everyone gets the benefit of the questions & answers. No questions in private email will be answered. Also, note that I am not an expert so I may not even know the answers. Give me feedback and I might just post this on the Web so people can get at it more conveniently. Having said that... 1. Make sure all your clients are configured to authenticate to the mail server. They will not be able to send mail at all if they don't. Double-check; many people somehow check the wrong box. In Outlook or Outlook Express, in the section "Outgoing Mail" of each Internet Mail account, there is a checkbox labeled "My server requires authentication." Check that; the settings do not need to be changed since they are the same username/password they need to get mail. In Eudora, every Personality has a checkbox labeled "Authentication allowed". Eudora being somewhat more intelligent, this box is checked by default. 2. Make sure you are root. If you logged in as a normal user, make sure you became root using "su -" to get the full login environment. "su" alone misses some things. 3. Backup your sendmail.mc file by: # cp /etc/mail/sendmail.mc /etc/mail/sendmail.mc.bak 4. The file /etc/mail/sendmail.mc needs to contain the following three lines: define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A')dnl TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl Please note these are three lines only, be careful of the word wrap. Also, those are *directed quotes* not normal quotes. The left directed quote is typed with the backtick or "accent grave" key (for those French among us), and the right directed quote is typed with the apostrophe. 5. Backup the /etc/sendmail.cf (the file sendmail actually uses to run) by: # cp /etc/sendmail.cf /etc/sendmail.cf.bak 6. Generate a new sendmail.cf file: # m4 /etc/mail/sendmail.mc > /etc/mail/sendmail.cf 7. Copy your new sendmail.cf file over the old one: # cp /etc/mail/sendmail.cf /etc/sendmail.cf Overwrite /etc/sendmail.cf? y 8. Verify that you have an /etc/pam.d/smtp file with the following contents: #%PAM-1.0 auth required /lib/security/pam_stack.so service=system-auth account required /lib/security/pam_stack.so service=system-auth 9. Verify that you have a /usr/lib/sasl/Sendmail.conf file with the following contents: pwcheck_method:pam 10. Test that sendmail has correctly configured AUTH. Since you do not yet have any encrypted authentication mechanisms available, the only ones shown when you issue an EHLO command should be LOGIN and PLAIN. # telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 dude.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:24:49 -0600 ehlo localhost 250-dude.com Hello dude.com [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ONEX 250-ETRN 250-XUSR 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN 250 HELP quit 221 2.0.0 dude.com closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. 10. Test removing all relaying in the access map at 2:00 AM then trying to send mail. Do this by backing up your current /etc/mail/access and using something like this: # Check the /usr/share/doc/sendmail-8.11.6/README.cf file for a description # of the format of this file. (search for access_db in that file) # The /usr/share/doc/sendmail-8.11.6/README.cf is part of the sendmail-doc # package. # # by default we allow relaying from localhost... localhost.localdomain RELAY localhost RELAY 127.0.0.1 RELAY 11. Ensure that your file /etc/mail/relay-domains contains *only* the domains you host. 12. Ensure that your sendmail.mc does not enable relaying in funny forms like "accept unresolvable domains", "relay by domain", or any of that crap. An example (complete) sendmail.mc which is relay-safe is included here: divert(-1) dnl This is the sendmail macro config file. If you make changes to this file, dnl you need the sendmail-cf rpm installed and then have to generate a dnl new /etc/sendmail.cf by running the following command: dnl dnl m4 /etc/mail/sendmail.mc > /etc/sendmail.cf dnl include(`/usr/share/sendmail-cf/m4/cf.m4') VERSIONID(`linux setup for Red Hat Linux')dnl OSTYPE(`linux') define(`confDEF_USER_ID',``8:12'')dnl undefine(`UUCP_RELAY')dnl undefine(`BITNET_RELAY')dnl define(`confAUTO_REBUILD')dnl define(`confTO_CONNECT', `1m')dnl define(`confTRY_NULL_MX_LIST',true)dnl define(`confDONT_PROBE_INTERFACES',true)dnl define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')dnl define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases')dnl dnl define(`STATUS_FILE', `/etc/mail/statistics')dnl define(`UUCP_MAILER_MAX', `2000000')dnl define(`confUSERDB_SPEC', `/etc/mail/userdb.db')dnl define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,novrfy,noexpn,restrictqrun')dnl define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A')dnl TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl dnl define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', `4h')dnl dnl define(`confTO_QUEUERETURN', `5d')dnl dnl define(`confQUEUE_LA', `12')dnl dnl define(`confREFUSE_LA', `18')dnl dnl FEATURE(delay_checks)dnl FEATURE(`no_default_msa',`dnl')dnl FEATURE(`smrsh',`/usr/sbin/smrsh')dnl FEATURE(`mailertable',`hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable.db')dnl FEATURE(`virtusertable',`hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable.db')dnl FEATURE(redirect)dnl FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl FEATURE(local_procmail,`',`procmail -t -Y -a $h -d $u')dnl FEATURE(`access_db',`hash -o /etc/mail/access.db')dnl FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients')dnl EXPOSED_USER(`root')dnl dnl Change sendmail to only listen on the loopback interface and dnl the internal network interface; never accept outside traffic. dnl Add "dnl" to both DAEMON_OPTIONS lines to accept mail from dnl all network interfaces. dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA') dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=192.168.0.1, Name=MTA') dnl NOTE: binding both IPv4 and IPv6 daemon to the same port requires dnl a kernel patch dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`port=smtp,Addr=::1, Name=MTA-v6, Family=inet6') dnl We strongly recommend to comment this one out if you want to protect dnl yourself from spam. However, the laptop and users on computers that do dnl not have 24x7 DNS do need this. dnl FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains')dnl dnl FEATURE(`relay_based_on_MX')dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl MAILER(procmail)dnl Cwlocalhost.localdomain 13. Hover anxiously over the server for a couple of days and check for "Relaying denied" errors. Track them down aggressively as most will be your own customers. :) Fix their mail client configurations which they didn't fix before when you told them to. 14. Get some sleep.
On Thursday 07 March 2002 3:16 pm, you wrote:
This has appeared since I last looked at the support database. It looks pretty simple, but it also looks just like the information I got from sendmail.org, which didn't work! I'll give it another try tonight when I get home. Just to clarify though, the new config file has this format: USERNAME USERNAME PASSWORD MAILSERVER which translates for me (derekfountain at yahoo.co.uk) as: derekfountain derekfountain MYPASSWORD smtp.mail.yahoo.com where MYPASSWORD is the one I use to access the Yahoo POP server? I ask because the sendmail.org blurb asks for (IIRC) realm names and other stuff I didn't understand.
Also, I got the following instructions from the Redhat list. This will
This looks an awful lot more complicated! Here's hoping the SDB solution or Pat's postconnect thing just plugs in and goes! -- 3:24pm up 2 days, 55 min, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.06, 0.02
If you're looking to enable sendmail for authentication I can show you how. I don't use Yahoo but I needed authentication for my ISP who turned it on about a month ago. Is this what you're looking for? Gerry On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Derek Fountain wrote:
Does anyone know email client (for linux of course) that can send email through Yahoo smtp? Because I just configure KMail (version 1.2, KDE 2.1.2) to send mail via Yahoo smtp but fail. I've check the Yahoo help page, and it says that email client must support authentication. It also list several email clients (under windows unfortunately)...
They switched it on yesterday didn't they? In the past 2 months (since the original notification), I've asked twice on this list how to configure for SMTP authentication, but no one has come up with an answer. My outbound email ground to a halt yesterday as well. :(
The only option at the moment seems to be to switch to a mail client which supports SMTP authentication. Netscape 4 and 6 both do, and Evolution too, but if you want to stick with KMail you'll have to upgrade to the latest release candidate for KDE3. I'm not willing to do that (I need stability on my desktop) so I've switched to Netscape6. I had to leave all my old mail behind. :(
I wish someone would tell me how to configure SuSE's Sendmail config to support SMTP authentication. I tried to figure it out myself but got nowhere. Surely someone must know how to do it?
-- Gerry "The lyfe so short, the craft so long to learne" Chaucer
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El Jue 07 Mar 2002 07:36, escribiste:
If you're looking to enable sendmail for authentication I can show you how. I don't use Yahoo but I needed authentication for my ISP who turned it on about a month ago.
Is this what you're looking for?
Gerry
I'm using Yahoo. I would appreciate it if you could tell how to enable authentication for sendmail. Thank you. - -- Alfredo J. Cole http://www.acyc.com (Accounting Systems) http://www.clshonduras.com (Linux Hardware) PGP Key available from certserver.pgp.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8h2/yu5DxuPWE298RAhNiAJ9ObaxCP1clKnZRkNKXdBHfSPQ6NwCfTept Yxi4iJS0uwa88370HDFibTI= =jJRM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
* Derek Fountain
Does anyone know email client (for linux of course) that can send email through Yahoo smtp? Because I just configure KMail (version 1.2, KDE 2.1.2) to send mail via Yahoo smtp but fail. I've check the Yahoo help page, and it says that email client must support authentication. It also list several email clients (under windows unfortunately)...
They switched it on yesterday didn't they? In the past 2 months (since the original notification), I've asked twice on this list how to configure for SMTP authentication, but no one has come up with an answer. My outbound email ground to a halt yesterday as well. :(
read man fetchmail: postconnect Command to be executed after each connection I just read a web page about this. Check : http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmail3.html#smtp -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 8:18am up 17 days, 22:51, 7 users, load average: 0.06, 0.16, 0.11
On Thursday 07 March 2002 2:15 pm, you wrote:
I just read a web page about this. Check : http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmail3.html#smtp
I don't think that's quite the same thing as Yahoo are doing. Yahoo have blocked their outbound SMTP server from those who don't have an account an password. Polling for mail doesn't (as far as I know) disable the outbound authentication requirement. -- 2:21pm up 1 day, 23:53, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.08, 0.05
* Derek Fountain
On Thursday 07 March 2002 2:15 pm, you wrote:
I just read a web page about this. Check : http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmail3.html#smtp
I don't think that's quite the same thing as Yahoo are doing. Yahoo have blocked their outbound SMTP server from those who don't have an account an password. Polling for mail doesn't (as far as I know) disable the outbound authentication requirement.
Polling for mail requires a password to be delivered before access is granted. That is how they accomplish authorization for smtp. They will not accept mail delivered from you unless you first accomplish a pop access (fetchmail does this for you). Look at you ~/.fetchmailrc file, it contains your password for each account you poll for mail. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 9:55am up 18 days, 28 min, 7 users, load average: 0.09, 0.05, 0.02
On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 13:33, Cincai Patron wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone know email client (for linux of course) that can send email through Yahoo smtp?
Hi, I am using Evolution 1.0.1, works w/o problems, setup is as follows: Tools-Mail_settings-Add Then add your yahoo account there. On the sending mail page, do: Server type: SMTP Host: smtp.mail.yahoo.com check Server requires authentication Authentication type: NT login #whatever that is - works for me Username:cincaipatron check Remember this password Then it should work. Cheers ... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
On Thursday 07 March 2002 12:58 pm, you wrote:
Does anyone know email client (for linux of course) that can send email through Yahoo smtp?
Got home last night, filled in the authentication configuration file as described by this: http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/sendmail_smtp_auth.html and it worked first time! You can't imagine how happy I was switching back to Kmail. :) Thanks to all who helped. -- 8:14am up 2 days, 17:45, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.12, 0.10
On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 13:33, Cincai Patron wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone know email client (for linux of course) that can send email through Yahoo smtp?
Hi, I am using Evolution 1.0.1, works w/o problems, setup is as follows: Tools-Mail_settings-Add Then add your yahoo account there. On the sending mail page, do: Server type: SMTP Host: smtp.mail.yahoo.com check Server requires authentication Authentication type: NT login #whatever that is - works for me Username:cincaipatron check Remember this password Then it should work. Cheers ... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
participants (7)
-
Alfredo Cole -
Cincai Patron -
Derek Fountain -
Gerry Doris -
Keith Winston -
pat -
wolfi