[opensuse] I'm a bit confused by the current naming of vmware player
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I went to https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads, and what I see as "Player" is now called "VMware Workstation 12.1.0 Player for Linux 64-bit." The version I have currently installed is Player, version 6. Apparently, VMware Workstation 12.1.0 Player is both free and paid. I suppose I have to upgrade to it. Anybody done that, what should I have in mind? However, the package is named similarly: VMware-Player-6.0.6-.....x86_64.bundle VMware-Player-12.1.0-......x86_64.bundle No "workstation" in the name there, just a jump in the version number. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlaZEaUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V3+QCfc2op98GC9esfTL3+AXqx0xGK pP4AmwSYpw9+9n5dodRUhZ9Mru8rVBlu =tIpT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 16:34, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I went to https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads, and what I see as "Player" is now called "VMware Workstation 12.1.0 Player for Linux 64-bit." The version I have currently installed is Player, version 6.
Apparently, VMware Workstation 12.1.0 Player is both free and paid. I suppose I have to upgrade to it. Anybody done that, what should I have in mind?
However, the package is named similarly:
VMware-Player-6.0.6-.....x86_64.bundle VMware-Player-12.1.0-......x86_64.bundle
No "workstation" in the name there, just a jump in the version number.
At one time it was hinted the planed existence of a "player" for the "VMware-Server" files / virtual machines, that was dropped soon after. AFAIKT earlier the situation was, "VMware-Server (now vSphere)" will play / use both, the Server-Only and the Workstation images, while "VMware-Workstation (Pro)" will only play / use the Workstation images, while "VMware-Player" is a rather limited subset of "VMware-Workstation". But looking at the actual web-page, some of this information seems to be gone missing. Most of my older links to there do not work anymore, and I can not find the same info in the pages as of now. Now, that bag is all mixed up. Server is splited up in multiple "products", see: Data Center Virtualization and Cloud Infrastructure http://www.vmware.com/products/datacenter-virtualization/ Workstation is housed here: Desktop and Application Virtualization http://www.vmware.com/products/desktop-virtualization.html (Product "Workstation (Pro / Player)" defined as for use in desktop environment e.g. PC / Laptop) For Player I get two DL pages Version 12 (leads to 12.1.0) https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_work... Version 7 (leads to 7.1.3) https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_play... See the difference in the Names? With Version 12 it became "VMware Workstation Player" while Version 7 still was "VMware Player" Tl;DR: Product regrouping. - Yamaban. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/15/2016 08:40 AM, Yamaban wrote:
But looking at the actual web-page, some of this information seems to be gone missing. Most of my older links to there do not work anymore, and I can not find the same info in the pages as of now.
Yes, VMware is well known for complicating the hell out of their product line. Its something of a rats nest of the same stuff bundled in different ways. Every VMWare workstation product comes bundled with a vmware Player, but you can also download it for free. Its like those toy spare tires (tyres) you find in the trunk of modern cars. You only use them in desperate situations, and they don't work well, and you have to drive slow. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/15/2016 07:50 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 01/15/2016 08:40 AM, Yamaban wrote:
But looking at the actual web-page, some of this information seems to be gone missing. Most of my older links to there do not work anymore, and I can not find the same info in the pages as of now.
Yes, VMware is well known for complicating the hell out of their product line. Its something of a rats nest of the same stuff bundled in different ways.
Every VMWare workstation product comes bundled with a vmware Player, but you can also download it for free.
Its like those toy spare tires (tyres) you find in the trunk of modern cars. You only use them in desperate situations, and they don't work well, and you have to drive slow.
Well, for me Player suffices, I can't justify paying for the full version. It works. But these version changes are confusing. Previously I used the "Server" version, which was "gratis" at the time. Well, I'm installing that new version 12. I hope it works. Version 6 turns my work installation unstable (oS 13.1), it crashes the kernel on restore from hibernation. -- Cheers/Saludos Carlos E. R. (openSUSE Leap 42.1, test at Minas-Anor) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/18/2016 03:56 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Previously I used the "Server" version, which was "gratis" at the time
Server was designed to run headless, and be accessed by a web browser. Sort of a different thing than player. I have an instance of server running on a linux box to provide a test portal for some software we sell for windows at my day job. Works ok. I have player as well, but no real use for it. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
I hate to go off topic, but anyone who wishes to use virtualization in GNU/Linux would be far better off using virt-manager + KVM or VirtualBox. Stay away from that VMware proprietary crap. They're always breaking features and functionality under GNU/Linux. Brandon Vincent -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2016 04:56 AM, Brandon Vincent wrote:
I hate to go off topic, but anyone who wishes to use virtualization in GNU/Linux would be far better off using virt-manager + KVM or VirtualBox.
Stay away from that VMware proprietary crap. They're always breaking features and functionality under GNU/Linux.
VirtualBox does also belong to a company, and one not always friendly to Linux. KVM is not for me. -- Cheers/Saludos Carlos E. R. (openSUSE Leap 42.1, test at Minas-Anor) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
VirtualBox does also belong to a company, and one not always friendly to Linux.
I would point out, however, that the 'basic' version of VirtualBox is published under the GPL (V2), and that the company that owns it (of which I am most certainly NOT a fan) seems to be dedicated to keeping VirtualBox (both the free and non-free versions) working well on Linux (and openSUSE, which is my primary OS). -Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2016 02:03 AM, John Andersen wrote:
On 01/18/2016 03:56 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Previously I used the "Server" version, which was "gratis" at the time
Server was designed to run headless, and be accessed by a web browser. Sort of a different thing than player.
No, that was version 2. Version 1 worked very similarly to the current Player version, except that it could do snapshots and Player can not. However, machines that I created with server 1 are still working with Player 6.
I have an instance of server running on a linux box to provide a test portal for some software we sell for windows at my day job.
Works ok.
I have player as well, but no real use for it.
I use it mostly for testing things. Not permanent use. -- Cheers/Saludos Carlos E. R. (openSUSE Leap 42.1, test at Minas-Anor) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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