[opensuse] how to install a printing repository
13.2 Hi I'd like to install cups 2.0.2 from the printing repository. I went to yast - software - software repositories - add The only understandable guide I found was http://opensuse-guide.org/repositories.php But no printing anywhere. 1. what is printing repository? 2. where is it? 3. how do I get it? Stupid questions I know but if anyone has any idea what I'm on about, please help. Part of the problem is that I know what I want to do, but I don't know where to start or how to ask in linux vocab. tia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-05-06 22:12, buhorojo wrote:
13.2 Hi I'd like to install cups 2.0.2 from the printing repository. I went to yast - software - software repositories - add
The only understandable guide I found was http://opensuse-guide.org/repositories.php
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Add_package_repositories
But no printing anywhere.
1. what is printing repository? 2. where is it? 3. how do I get it?
Go to main page: <https://www.opensuse.org/en/> Click on "get it". You get to <https://software.opensuse.org/132/en> Type "cups" on search box. You get to <https://software.opensuse.org/search?q=cups&baseproject=openSUSE%3A13.1&search_devel=false&search_unsupported=false> You will see several boxes. One says "cups", top left. click on it. You get to <https://software.opensuse.org/package/cups> At the bottom, it says "show other versions". Click there. You will see on the page a list of opensuse distributions. Click on yours (13.2). Then click on "Show unstable packages". You should see this: openSUSE 13.2 official update 1.5.4 32 Bit 64 Bit Source 1 Click Install Printing 2.0.2 32 Bit 64 Bit Source 1 Click Install etc. See the word "Printing"? That's it. You can click on "1 Click Install", or better, right click on the 64 bit link, copy the link to the clipboard. It is something like this: <http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Printing/openSUSE_13.2/x86_64/cups-2.0.2-170.1.x86_64.rpm> The repository URL you have to add in YaST is <http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Printing/openSUSE_13.2/> Now you follow the instructions on the first link I posted (the SDB), and add it. On this other link <https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Printing> you find all sort of interesting info about printing in openSUSE and Linux. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlVKmBMACgkQja8UbcUWM1wo6QD/WzBV48SnSUWNxaUv1tRcGxXc JnATPjigky/Lnj3r94AA/00y1Zd+DgQDvp/WvCoR2CUgvBnkNsKcJbWS8y7rPkof =QHv0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/05/15 00:39, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2015-05-06 22:12, buhorojo wrote:
13.2 Hi I'd like to install cups 2.0.2 from the printing repository. I went to yast - software - software repositories - add
The only understandable guide I found was http://opensuse-guide.org/repositories.php https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Add_package_repositories
But no printing anywhere.
1. what is printing repository? 2. where is it? 3. how do I get it? Go to main page: <https://www.opensuse.org/en/> Click on "get it".
You get to <https://software.opensuse.org/132/en> Type "cups" on search box.
You get to <https://software.opensuse.org/search?q=cups&baseproject=openSUSE%3A13.1&search_devel=false&search_unsupported=false> You will see several boxes. One says "cups", top left. click on it.
You get to <https://software.opensuse.org/package/cups> At the bottom, it says "show other versions". Click there.
You will see on the page a list of opensuse distributions. Click on yours (13.2). Then click on "Show unstable packages". You should see this:
openSUSE 13.2
official update 1.5.4 32 Bit 64 Bit Source 1 Click Install
Printing 2.0.2 32 Bit 64 Bit Source 1 Click Install
etc. See the word "Printing"? That's it. OMG. Stop there. You are a genius. Thank you so much.
I rebooted and got a photo just as good as motorola, right to the edge, without stripes and without it making an awful grinding noise. Why does the documentation make it so cryptic?
You can click on "1 Click Install", or better, right click on the 64 bit link, copy the link to the clipboard.
It is something like this:
<http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Printing/openSUSE_13.2/x86_64/cups-2.0.2-170.1.x86_64.rpm>
The repository URL you have to add in YaST is <http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Printing/openSUSE_13.2/> No, no. Don't spoil it. Now you sound like the documentation. Keep it simple!
Now you follow the instructions on the first link I posted (the SDB), and add it.
On this other link <https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Printing> you find all sort of interesting info about printing in openSUSE and Linux.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-05-07 08:17, buhorojo wrote:
OMG. Stop there. You are a genius. Thank you so much.
I rebooted and got a photo just as good as motorola, right to the edge, without stripes and without it making an awful grinding noise. Why does the documentation make it so cryptic?
Good! :-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlVLVhMACgkQja8UbcUWM1x1UwEAnTjBxLIHUuFjj0s9Sx6xnu5v wiffh1Nt1Bs2dslbrRIBAJV+2VFjkDne6svcn5HcGOiZt2AzfiWWFBxFOIKI3yV2 =RFbO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/07/2015 02:17 AM, buhorojo wrote:
I rebooted
Eh? Why the reboot? Surely you only needed to restart CUPS?
Why does the documentation make it so cryptic?
make WHAT so cryptic? Adding repositories? As I said, RTFM and google. Its not cryptic. It may be different from click-and-download single packages under windows, but yes there are single click repository installs. That's what the search is about. Linux is very much not Windows. "Its a different country, they do things differently there". It's not just about speaking a different language! -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/05/15 15:12, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 05/07/2015 02:17 AM, buhorojo wrote:
I rebooted Eh? Why the reboot? Surely you only needed to restart CUPS? Hi Did I? Thanks so much for your wise words, but I don't think you understand. I reboot because I know how to. '...only needed to restart CUPS?', is useless. Tell me how to do it then yes, but expressing disbelief when a beginner does something doesn't help move forward. If you know how to do something, then please share it. Thanks again for your contribution.
Why does the documentation make it so cryptic? make WHAT so cryptic?
Adding repositories? As I said, RTFM and google. Its not cryptic. It may be different from click-and-download single packages under windows, but yes there are single click repository installs. That's what the search is about.
Linux is very much not Windows. "Its a different country, they do things differently there". It's not just about speaking a different language!
You've lost me again. I don't see what relevance windows has to installing a repository:( Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-05-08 00:41, buhorojo wrote:
Did I? Thanks so much for your wise words, but I don't think you understand. I reboot because I know how to. '...only needed to restart CUPS?', is useless. Tell me how to do it then yes, but expressing
There are many ways. There is a module in YaST that display services and their status, and allows you to change them. Or you can call "rcups restart" or "systemctl start cups.service" (and [TAB] completion helps along the way. All this is in the book. https://activedoc.opensuse.org/book/opensuse-reference/
Linux is very much not Windows. "Its a different country, they do things differently there". It's not just about speaking a different language!
You've lost me again. I don't see what relevance windows has to installing a repository:(
That you have to forget what you knew about Windows and learn new ways. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlVL7DoACgkQja8UbcUWM1yquQD+OccMwX92BLenr8KiwOJyIER0 Ypt1HJwI7phTxGZZ8ekA/3p7J55HTT3sf5ufjpUO0FI+iuovHaxU7pmZU/LJIe6h =sEc5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/05/15 00:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2015-05-08 00:41, buhorojo wrote:
Did I? Thanks so much for your wise words, but I don't think you understand. I reboot because I know how to. '...only needed to restart CUPS?', is useless. Tell me how to do it then yes, but expressing There are many ways. There is a module in YaST that display services and their status, and allows you to change them.
Or you can call "rcups restart" OK. Thanks. Got that one now. rcanything seems to do it. or "systemctl start cups.service" (and [TAB] completion helps along the way.
All this is in the book.
https://activedoc.opensuse.org/book/opensuse-reference/
Linux is very much not Windows. "Its a different country, they do things differently there". It's not just about speaking a different language!
You've lost me again. I don't see what relevance windows has to installing a repository:( That you have to forget what you knew about Windows and learn new ways.
Oh, please. Don't _you_ start. I know nothing more than you about windows!
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-05-08 19:31, buhorojo wrote:
On 08/05/15 00:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
That you have to forget what you knew about Windows and learn new ways.
Oh, please. Don't _you_ start. I know nothing more than you about windows!
Ok! :-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlVNJK8ACgkQja8UbcUWM1x76QD9GRNYlzUfEqWu+zgFrYfeeuRj BhcA6GY+6vbOY04Dty4A/0IXpxTWnYyVcc7MxJ4Tv3KXgFCw6Jx0nMswMR9Qn9SW =ksSQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/07/2015 06:41 PM, buhorojo wrote:
n 07/05/15 15:12, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 05/07/2015 02:17 AM, buhorojo wrote:
I rebooted Eh? Why the reboot? Surely you only needed to restart CUPS? Hi Did I? Thanks so much for your wise words, but I don't think you understand. I reboot because I know how to. '...only needed to restart CUPS?', is useless. Tell me how to do it then yes, but expressing disbelief when a beginner does something d
Some years ago there was a thread http://www.zdnet.com/article/why-many-mcses-wont-learn-linux/ on ZDnet that was a bit controversial. It does however have a core truth. UNIX and Linux is about learning patterns of how things work, and applying those patterns in new contexts. I could tell you how to restart the CUPs server, give you the command line, but then you'd only know how to restart the CUSp server. Would that be any use to you when it came down to restarting the X11 server? the SAMBA server, the web server? The login server? Perhaps, if you were pattern oriented. But if you were pattern oritned I don't think you'd be asking the question the way you did. There are a few rubrics to finding out who to do things with Linux. They involve looking for and employing patterns The first this RTFM -- Read the 'Fine' manual. There is actually an amazing amount of documentation in the distribution that you get anyways. Its all there under /usr/share. Yes it takes a bit of intelligence to read the man pages; they are in an idiosyncratic and prosaic format, but the most protocols are like that. Yes you may have to follow refernces. This is no different from library work :-0 You _could_ search though what's under /usr/share/man/ using a recursive pattern scanner such as grep, awk, or perl (or ruby or python...). Or you cold trty 'apropos' (look at the man page) with a variety of keywords. You can also google. Everty8ng I've mentioned in this an other threads, everything everyone has told you here, could be found using google. Yes you might have to try a few keywords and phrases and follow a few additional links, but google is a fantastic tool. So there you have the two compoents RTFM Go Google. *B*O*T*H* make use of patterns. Googling for "linux restart services" is the generic 'pattern' sine CUPS is one of the many service daemons that runs in the background on Linux. While "linux restart cups server" is a bit too specific it does mention the 'restart' method that can be applies to just about any service Of course I'd limit the googling to the last year, but this being Linux i wouldn't worry about obsession and making it openSuse or 13.2.
Linux is very much not Windows. "Its a different country, they do things differently there". It's not just about speaking a different language!
You've lost me again. I don't see what relevance windows has to installing a repository:(
Linux is not Windows.The assumptions about how you manage Windows, how services there work, have no relevance what so every to Linux. A few applications, thunderbird, firefox, others, may present the same UI and have a lot of the same functionality (but are not _quite_ identical) but at the sysadmin and system service level their underlying models are radically different. So much of Windows is 'sui generis'. That why there are training courses for people who learnt revision N when they move to revision N-1. I see that applies to the office suite and more as well. I find that amazing. Those of us who grok Linux can sit down at any variant, and some no Linux UNIX variants as well, and administer then. Moving from Linux to AIX or HP/UX may result in a few gotchas because the hardware is so radically different, but a bit of RTFM soon overcomes that. If we just tell you what command to type in, you'll never learn and you'll always be asking 'what command should I type in?' As an additional note I'd mention that Larry Wall once said "There's more than one way to do things". He was talking about perl, but the idiom is quite applicable to Linux in general. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/06/2015 04:12 PM, buhorojo wrote:
13.2 Hi I'd like to install cups 2.0.2 from the printing repository. I went to yast - software - software repositories - add
The only understandable guide I found was http://opensuse-guide.org/repositories.php
You may have noticed that many of use refer to 'zypper'. Yast is a shell that makes use of the zypper library. There is also a command line version named, naturally, 'zypper'. Command line version are easier to describe since we can give the text you type in. You should read the man page for zypper to see that the commands are. The Yast version simply presents a GUI. You can invoke Yast from the command line # yast2 repositories will give you the version of the GUI for managing, including adding, repositories # yast2 sw_single will give you the version of the GUI of course # yast2 --list will show you all the modules that are installed on your machine. With zypper you can ad more modules. # zypper search yast2 To add a repository, use the "ar" or "addrepo" subcommand. You will find this under the "Repository management" section of the man page. As it says, you can tell the system that the repository is in any one of a number of types of place: * a CD or DVD * a HTTP or FTP url * a directory on the machine * a network accessible directory via SAMBA (cifs, smb) or NFS
But no printing anywhere.
In this case you want a the URL option. if you read back through this thread we've told you what the URL for the Printing repository is. We've done that a number of times, so I'm going to let you make the effort to look it up, OK? if you read carefully you'll see the line/link "Go to download repository"
1. what is printing repository? 2. where is it? 3. how do I get it?
Stupid questions I know but if anyone has any idea what I'm on about, please help. Part of the problem is that I know what I want to do, but I don't know where to start or how to ask in linux vocab.
You always start by RTFM. There's often a manual page, and f you google there's something that amounts to a how-to. As it happen the page you referred to says explicitly: <quote> The official repositories are pre-configured, but many unofficial repositories exist and can be added too. </quote> It also says <quote> You can search for packages/repositories on the openSUSE BuildService here: http://software.opensuse.org/search </quote> Earlier in this thread when I referred you to sources/RPMs for CUPS2 that is what I used to find them. I also not that the part of that page titled "11.2 Repository Management in the Terminal" describes in detail all I've outlined above and more, including advising to read the man page and # zypper addrepo --help Searching with google is good. Not only will you find the wiki, https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki but it will give you details of the build service http://openbuildservice.org/help/manuals/obs-reference-guide/ which is hos the contributors mentioned in the page you referenced build various things like CUPS2. The wiki is of course more user contributed stuff :-) https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Zypper ==> https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Zypper_usage ==> https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Zypper_usage#Adding_repositories https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Printing ==> https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:How_to_set-up_a_HP_printer There is also says <quote> After the openSUSE 13.2 release it is planned to upgrade the printing system in the openSUSE build service development project "Printing" to CUPS 1.7 or CUPS 2.x plus cups-filters. </quote> and has links to https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=Printing which you must surely recognise from earlier in this thread. I do have a question. Since all of the above can be found by https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=K5VKVfr8F4uN8QeTnYG4DQ#newwindow=1&q=how+to+add+respositories+in+opensuse how come you couldn't have done that? its not as if it take an amazing amount of google-fu; that's and obvious search string and all the rest comes though following links.
tia
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On 05/06/2015 01:12 PM, buhorojo wrote:
13.2 Hi I'd like to install cups 2.0.2 from the printing repository. I went to yast - software - software repositories - add
The only understandable guide I found was http://opensuse-guide.org/repositories.php
But no printing anywhere.
1. what is printing repository? 2. where is it? 3. how do I get it?
Stupid questions I know but if anyone has any idea what I'm on about, please help. Part of the problem is that I know what I want to do, but I don't know where to start or how to ask in linux vocab. tia
You generally start here: https://en.opensuse.org/Package_repositories Route: https://www.opensuse.org/en/ Select GET IT Then on the side-bar, you will see a link to Repositories... Navigate those carefully, making sure you select the right architecture and the right version. Copu the url and paste it into YAST Repositories as an additional source. However, to save you the digging, I couldn't find any printing repository in there either. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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