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Alexey Eremenko

24 Apr 2008 24 Apr '08

17:18

A nice site for those, who wanna be trolls or feed them: http://www.distrofight.com/ -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Larry Stotler

24 Apr 24 Apr

17:27

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Alexey Eremenko wrote:

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A nice site for those, who wanna be trolls or feed them: http://www.distrofight.com/

This is pointless, not to mention the site has several spelling mistakes and very bad grammer. Those of use who use openSuSE do so because it does what we need. I quit wasting my time trying to convince others to use my favorite distro years ago. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Fred A. Miller

25 Apr 25 Apr

00:07

Larry Stotler wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Alexey Eremenko wrote:

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A nice site for those, who wanna be trolls or feed them: http://www.distrofight.com/

This is pointless, not to mention the site has several spelling mistakes and very bad grammer. Those of use who use openSuSE do so because it does what we need. I quit wasting my time trying to convince others to use my favorite distro years ago.

Yep.......waste of time.....convert 'Bloze users instead. ;) Fred -- Linux is an old Latin word meaning, "I don't have to support your Windows anymore." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kai Ponte

04:05

On Thursday 24 April 2008 05:07:25 pm Fred A. Miller wrote:

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Larry Stotler wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Alexey Eremenko wrote:

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A nice site for those, who wanna be trolls or feed them: http://www.distrofight.com/

This is pointless, not to mention the site has several spelling mistakes and very bad grammer. Those of use who use openSuSE do so because it does what we need. I quit wasting my time trying to convince others to use my favorite distro years ago.

Yep.......waste of time.....convert 'Bloze users instead. ;)

I agree. I never tell anyone that <insert distro here> is better/worse than <insert distro here> HOWEVER.. ...while trying to reply to this mail, KMail completely locked up my desktop. I was able to ctrl-alt-esc and kill it, but that was really odd. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.4thedadz.com || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

04:48

Kai Ponte wrote:

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On Thursday 24 April 2008 05:07:25 pm Fred A. Miller wrote:

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Larry Stotler wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Alexey Eremenko wrote:

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A nice site for those, who wanna be trolls or feed them: http://www.distrofight.com/

This is pointless, not to mention the site has several spelling mistakes and very bad grammer. Those of use who use openSuSE do so because it does what we need. I quit wasting my time trying to convince others to use my favorite distro years ago.

Yep.......waste of time.....convert 'Bloze users instead. ;)

I agree. I never tell anyone that <insert distro here> is better/worse than <insert distro here>

HOWEVER..

...while trying to reply to this mail, KMail completely locked up my desktop. I was able to ctrl-alt-esc and kill it, but that was really odd.

Interesting. Which version of openSUSE are you running? I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt. (The system is up-to-date, and I'm using KDE3.) Ciao. -- A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jan Engelhardt

12:28

On Friday 2008-04-25 06:48, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Interesting. Which version of openSUSE are you running?

I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt.

That sounds like the X server getting a SIGSEGV, happens time and again. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Bob Williams

21:42

On Friday 25 April 2008 05:48:28 Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt.

(The system is up-to-date, and I'm using KDE3.)

Strange. I've noticed the same thing here, a few times recently. -- Bob Registered Linux User #463880 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 10.3, Kernel 2.6.22.17-0.1-default, KDE 3.5.9 Intel Celeron 2.53GB, 2GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 7600GS

Basil Chupin

26 Apr 26 Apr

06:44

Bob Williams wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 05:48:28 Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt.

(The system is up-to-date, and I'm using KDE3.)

Strange. I've noticed the same thing here, a few times recently.

HA! And one is always 'worried' about asking a question about such an occurrence on the mail list in case because noone else has mentioned such a problem :-( . How many more of similar hassles are being experienced by people but not being brought out into the open I wonder? And I agree with you that this is a hassle which started to occur RECENTLY - never had this happen until something got upgraded in the past few weeks. Thanks for confirming that this problem is not something conjured up by my imagination :-) . Ciao. -- If you want to know what a man is like, take a look at how he treats his inferiors not his equals. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

07:40

Basil Chupin wrote:

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Bob Williams wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 05:48:28 Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt.

(The system is up-to-date, and I'm using KDE3.)

Strange. I've noticed the same thing here, a few times recently.

HA! And one is always 'worried' about asking a question about such an occurrence on the mail list in case because noone else has mentioned such a problem :-( .

How many more of similar hassles are being experienced by people but not being brought out into the open I wonder?

And I agree with you that this is a hassle which started to occur RECENTLY - never had this happen until something got upgraded in the past few weeks.

Thanks for confirming that this problem is not something conjured up by my imagination :-) .

Ciao.

Careful Basil, You're going to give Bob an insecurity complex...... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

27 Apr 27 Apr

04:38

David C. Rankin wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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Bob Williams wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 05:48:28 Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt.

(The system is up-to-date, and I'm using KDE3.)

Strange. I've noticed the same thing here, a few times recently.

HA! And one is always 'worried' about asking a question about such an occurrence on the mail list in case because noone else has mentioned such a problem :-( .

How many more of similar hassles are being experienced by people but not being brought out into the open I wonder?

And I agree with you that this is a hassle which started to occur RECENTLY - never had this happen until something got upgraded in the past few weeks.

Thanks for confirming that this problem is not something conjured up by my imagination :-) .

Ciao.

Careful Basil,

You're going to give Bob an insecurity complex......

The insecurity thingie is one thing but I just hope that he'll be able to handle the 'troll' part :-) . Ciao. -- If you want to know what a man is like, take a look at how he treats his inferiors not his equals. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Bob Williams

08:06

On Sunday 27 April 2008 05:38:42 Basil Chupin wrote:

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David C. Rankin wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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Bob Williams wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 05:48:28 Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt.

(The system is up-to-date, and I'm using KDE3.)

Strange. I've noticed the same thing here, a few times recently.

HA! And one is always 'worried' about asking a question about such an occurrence on the mail list in case because noone else has mentioned such a problem :-( .

How many more of similar hassles are being experienced by people but not being brought out into the open I wonder?

And I agree with you that this is a hassle which started to occur RECENTLY - never had this happen until something got upgraded in the past few weeks.

Thanks for confirming that this problem is not something conjured up by my imagination :-) .

Ciao.

Careful Basil,

You're going to give Bob an insecurity complex......

The insecurity thingie is one thing but I just hope that he'll be able to handle the 'troll' part :-) .

Ciao.

No, it really does keep logging me out. And who are you calling insecure? The 'troll' reference went right over my head :( Must be some sort of in-joke. ... Duh! Note to myself. Read the subject line when joining a thread :) Bob -- Bob Registered Linux User #463880 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 10.3, Kernel 2.6.22.17-0.1-default, KDE 3.5.9 Intel Celeron 2.53GB, 2GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 7600GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

11:26

Bob Williams wrote:

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On Sunday 27 April 2008 05:38:42 Basil Chupin wrote:

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David C. Rankin wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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Bob Williams wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 05:48:28 Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt.

(The system is up-to-date, and I'm using KDE3.)

Strange. I've noticed the same thing here, a few times recently.

HA! And one is always 'worried' about asking a question about such an occurrence on the mail list in case because noone else has mentioned such a problem :-( .

How many more of similar hassles are being experienced by people but not being brought out into the open I wonder?

And I agree with you that this is a hassle which started to occur RECENTLY - never had this happen until something got upgraded in the past few weeks.

Thanks for confirming that this problem is not something conjured up by my imagination :-) .

Ciao.

Careful Basil,

You're going to give Bob an insecurity complex......

The insecurity thingie is one thing but I just hope that he'll be able to handle the 'troll' part :-) .

Ciao.

No, it really does keep logging me out. And who are you calling insecure?

No, no, no! I am not calling you 'insecure' :-) . David simply mentioned that by writing what I did I may be giving you an insecurity complex (read above what was written).

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The 'troll' reference went right over my head :( Must be some sort of in-joke.

I guess it may be termed an "in-joke". There are some who are afflicted with cranial impotence, and who frequent this and other openSUSE mailing lists, who have decided that I am a (?Windows) troll because I make questioning comments about some of the sacred practices and beliefs held by those openSUSE followers :-) .

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... Duh! Note to myself. Read the subject line when joining a thread :)

You're getting there! :-D Ciao -- If you want to know what a man is like, take a look at how he treats his inferiors not his equals. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

04:34

Bob Williams wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 05:48:28 Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt.

(The system is up-to-date, and I'm using KDE3.)

Strange. I've noticed the same thing here, a few times recently.

There is one more weirdness which started at the same time as the above: after entering the user's password to login, the (LCD) monitor immediately goes into sleep mode (ie, turns black); moving the mouse (eg) brings it back up and then the desktop is visible. Ciao. -- If you want to know what a man is like, take a look at how he treats his inferiors not his equals. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Rajko M.

07:25

On Saturday 26 April 2008 11:34:18 pm Basil Chupin wrote:

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Bob Williams wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 05:48:28 Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt.

(The system is up-to-date, and I'm using KDE3.)

Strange. I've noticed the same thing here, a few times recently.

There is one more weirdness which started at the same time as the above: after entering the user's password to login, the (LCD) monitor immediately goes into sleep mode (ie, turns black); moving the mouse (eg) brings it back up and then the desktop is visible.

Ciao.

KDE 3.5.9 release 60.1, was installed here yesterday, lost this "feature". -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

07:38

Rajko M. wrote:

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On Saturday 26 April 2008 11:34:18 pm Basil Chupin wrote:

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Bob Williams wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 05:48:28 Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt.

(The system is up-to-date, and I'm using KDE3.)

Strange. I've noticed the same thing here, a few times recently.

There is one more weirdness which started at the same time as the above: after entering the user's password to login, the (LCD) monitor immediately goes into sleep mode (ie, turns black); moving the mouse (eg) brings it back up and then the desktop is visible.

Ciao.

KDE 3.5.9 release 60.1, was installed here yesterday, lost this "feature".

AHA! Another "feature" nobody wanted to bring out in the open! :-) Thanks for this info. My system just got upgraded a few hours ago for the KDE bits so I will now see what happens when I boot the system tomorrow morning. Ciao. -- If you want to know what a man is like, take a look at how he treats his inferiors not his equals. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Bob Williams

08:10

On Sunday 27 April 2008 08:25:37 Rajko M. wrote:

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On Saturday 26 April 2008 11:34:18 pm Basil Chupin wrote:

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Bob Williams wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 05:48:28 Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have another - just the opposite - phenomenon: at odd times the system will log me out and present me with the login screen -- this occurs when I am switching a desktop or switching 'something/anything' with a mouse click. Try and switch and the 10.3 'reboots' me to the prompt.

(The system is up-to-date, and I'm using KDE3.)

Strange. I've noticed the same thing here, a few times recently.

There is one more weirdness which started at the same time as the above: after entering the user's password to login, the (LCD) monitor immediately goes into sleep mode (ie, turns black); moving the mouse (eg) brings it back up and then the desktop is visible.

Ciao.

KDE 3.5.9 release 60.1, was installed here yesterday, lost this "feature".

-- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands.

Bwahaha! I've only got 57.3. :( Bob -- Bob Registered Linux User #463880 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 10.3, Kernel 2.6.22.17-0.1-default, KDE 3.5.9 Intel Celeron 2.53GB, 2GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 7600GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Fred A. Miller

25 Apr 25 Apr

04:59

Kai Ponte wrote:

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On Thursday 24 April 2008 05:07:25 pm Fred A. Miller wrote:

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Larry Stotler wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Alexey Eremenko wrote:

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A nice site for those, who wanna be trolls or feed them: http://www.distrofight.com/ This is pointless, not to mention the site has several spelling mistakes and very bad grammer. Those of use who use openSuSE do so because it does what we need. I quit wasting my time trying to convince others to use my favorite distro years ago. Yep.......waste of time.....convert 'Bloze users instead. ;)

I agree. I never tell anyone that <insert distro here> is better/worse than <insert distro here>

HOWEVER..

...while trying to reply to this mail, KMail completely locked up my desktop. I was able to ctrl-alt-esc and kill it, but that was really odd.

'Never had much trouble with KMail, but use T-Bird because of the features I need. Fred -- Linux is an old Latin word meaning, "I don't have to support your Windows anymore." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stefan Hundhammer

11:33

On Friday 25 April 2008 06:05, Kai Ponte wrote:

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...while trying to reply to this mail, KMail completely locked up my desktop. I was able to ctrl-alt-esc and kill it, but that was really odd.

Should that happen again, try to look with Alt-Tab if there is a kdewalletmanager dialog asking for your password somewhere hidden behind another window, or even on another virtual desktop. CU -- Stefan Hundhammer Penguin by conviction. YaST2 Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kai Ponte

12:21

New subject: KMail Lockups (WAS: Re: [opensuse] A fighting scene, for the Linux trolls among us...)

On Friday 25 April 2008 04:33:42 am Stefan Hundhammer wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 06:05, Kai Ponte wrote:

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...while trying to reply to this mail, KMail completely locked up my desktop. I was able to ctrl-alt-esc and kill it, but that was really odd.

Should that happen again, try to look with Alt-Tab if there is a kdewalletmanager dialog asking for your password somewhere hidden behind another window, or even on another virtual desktop.

Actually, it wasn't KMail, I figured. It seemed to be Firefox 3 ruining it for everyone. I only had a few things open - KMail, Knode, FF3, VMWare (running XP with Outlook 2003, a C# in-house application, Visio and Autocad 2005), and OpenOffice. Normally, this isn't an issue, but FF3 eventually terminated and all was well. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.4thedadz.com || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sergey Mkrtchyan

19:44

On Friday 25 April 2008 12:05:19 am Kai Ponte wrote:

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I agree. I never tell anyone that <insert distro here> is better/worse than <insert distro here>

Actually I just lost the battle, trying to convince a guy to install opensuse on his laptop. He ended up installing ubuntu. I know I shouldn't care, but it really sucks! With my very little experience with that, I cannot understand how can one say that gnome is better for the guys who are going to use linux for the first time? Side question: Is it safe to leave laptop let's say overnight turned on, or even for more time? I leave my desktop on all the time, but not sure how it works for laptops. (it's thinkpad t61 I got it about a month ago...) Cheers, -- Sergey Mkrtchyan, PhD Student @ Department of Physics & Astronomy, Faculty of Science, University of Waterloo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Matthias Bach

19:51

Hi! Am Freitag 25 April 2008 schrieb Sergey Mkrtchyan:

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Side question: Is it safe to leave laptop let's say overnight turned on, or even for more time? I leave my desktop on all the time, but not sure how it works for laptops. (it's thinkpad t61 I got it about a month ago...)

My good old R40 has been running 24/7 for weeks at time. However I know from some guys that had severe heat problems with T4x-ones. Those didn't require an overnight run to show up, so. Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Bach www.marix.org „Der einzige Weg, die Grenzen des Möglichen zu finden, ist ein klein wenig über diese hinaus in das Unmögliche vorzustoßen.“ - Arthur C. Clarke

Kai Ponte

20:16

On Friday 25 April 2008 12:51:01 pm Matthias Bach wrote:

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Hi!

Am Freitag 25 April 2008 schrieb Sergey Mkrtchyan:

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Side question: Is it safe to leave laptop let's say overnight turned on, or even for more time? I leave my desktop on all the time, but not sure how it works for laptops. (it's thinkpad t61 I got it about a month ago...)

My good old R40 has been running 24/7 for weeks at time. However I know from some guys that had severe heat problems with T4x-ones. Those didn't require an overnight run to show up, so.

I have a couple of laptops I leave running all the time. For my critical ones, I have a fan pad. It is basically a usb-powered laptop pad with a few fans to suck air through the laptop. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.4thedadz.com || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

20:19

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For my critical ones, I have a fan pad. It is basically a usb-powered laptop pad with a few fans to suck air through the laptop.

Some how that reminds me of trying to cool the kitchen by leaving the refrigerator open. Hopefully you system works better than that. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

20:52

On 2008/04/25 16:19 (GMT-0400) Greg Freemyer apparently typed:

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For my critical ones, I have a fan pad. It is basically a usb-powered laptop pad with a few fans to suck air through the laptop.

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Some how that reminds me of trying to cool the kitchen by leaving the refrigerator open. Hopefully you system works better than that.

A friend bought three of those recently, and proudly showed me their rated power consumption was 1.3 watts. Their two fans each looked like about 60mm. Probably they're worth it just to provide air space underneath instead of insulation of a pair of legs or a tabletop without, and the fans are a bonus. -- "Either the constitution controls the judges, or the judges rewrite the constitution." Judge Robert Bork Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Matthias Bach

23:29

Hi! Am Freitag 25 April 2008 schrieb Felix Miata:

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On 2008/04/25 16:19 (GMT-0400) Greg Freemyer apparently typed:

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For my critical ones, I have a fan pad. It is basically a usb-powered laptop pad with a few fans to suck air through the laptop.

Some how that reminds me of trying to cool the kitchen by leaving the refrigerator open. Hopefully you system works better than that.

A friend bought three of those recently, and proudly showed me their rated power consumption was 1.3 watts. Their two fans each looked like about 60mm. Probably they're worth it just to provide air space underneath instead of insulation of a pair of legs or a tabletop without, and the fans are a bonus.

Actually 4 coffee cups are usually already a working solution for that kind of problem. Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Bach www.marix.org „Der einzige Weg, die Grenzen des Möglichen zu finden, ist ein klein wenig über diese hinaus in das Unmögliche vorzustoßen.“ - Arthur C. Clarke

Basil Chupin

26 Apr 26 Apr

06:16

Matthias Bach wrote:

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Hi!

Am Freitag 25 April 2008 schrieb Felix Miata:

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On 2008/04/25 16:19 (GMT-0400) Greg Freemyer apparently typed:

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For my critical ones, I have a fan pad. It is basically a usb-powered laptop pad with a few fans to suck air through the laptop.

Some how that reminds me of trying to cool the kitchen by leaving the refrigerator open. Hopefully you system works better than that.

A friend bought three of those recently, and proudly showed me their rated power consumption was 1.3 watts. Their two fans each looked like about 60mm. Probably they're worth it just to provide air space underneath instead of insulation of a pair of legs or a tabletop without, and the fans are a bonus.

Actually 4 coffee cups are usually already a working solution for that kind of problem.

Back in the "good old days" we used to have a 'chimney' made out of cardboard sitting over the device which drew the hot air up (and away)....just like a chimney does. Ciao. -- If you want to know what a man is like, take a look at how he treats his inferiors not his equals. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kai Ponte

05:42

On Friday 25 April 2008 01:52:07 pm Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2008/04/25 16:19 (GMT-0400) Greg Freemyer apparently typed:

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For my critical ones, I have a fan pad. It is basically a usb-powered laptop pad with a few fans to suck air through the laptop.

Some how that reminds me of trying to cool the kitchen by leaving the refrigerator open. Hopefully you system works better than that.

A friend bought three of those recently, and proudly showed me their rated power consumption was 1.3 watts. Their two fans each looked like about 60mm. Probably they're worth it just to provide air space underneath instead of insulation of a pair of legs or a tabletop without, and the fans are a bonus. --

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James Knott

21:07

Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2008/04/25 16:19 (GMT-0400) Greg Freemyer apparently typed:

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For my critical ones, I have a fan pad. It is basically a usb-powered laptop pad with a few fans to suck air through the laptop.

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Some how that reminds me of trying to cool the kitchen by leaving the refrigerator open. Hopefully you system works better than that.

A friend bought three of those recently, and proudly showed me their rated power consumption was 1.3 watts. Their two fans each looked like about 60mm. Probably they're worth it just to provide air space underneath instead of insulation of a pair of legs or a tabletop without, and the fans are a bonus.

What's wrong with just using a sheet of flat black aluminum, somewhat larger area than the notebook, to move the heat around? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

James Knott

21:05

Kai Ponte wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 12:51:01 pm Matthias Bach wrote:

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Hi!

Am Freitag 25 April 2008 schrieb Sergey Mkrtchyan:

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Side question: Is it safe to leave laptop let's say overnight turned on, or even for more time? I leave my desktop on all the time, but not sure how it works for laptops. (it's thinkpad t61 I got it about a month ago...)

My good old R40 has been running 24/7 for weeks at time. However I know from some guys that had severe heat problems with T4x-ones. Those didn't require an overnight run to show up, so.

I have a couple of laptops I leave running all the time.

For my critical ones, I have a fan pad. It is basically a usb-powered laptop pad with a few fans to suck air through the laptop.

I hope you're getting that USB power from elsewhere. Otherwise, you're adding to the heat to be removed. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

James Knott

21:01

Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote:

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On Friday 25 April 2008 12:05:19 am Kai Ponte wrote:

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I agree. I never tell anyone that <insert distro here> is better/worse than <insert distro here>

Actually I just lost the battle, trying to convince a guy to install opensuse on his laptop. He ended up installing ubuntu. I know I shouldn't care, but it really sucks!

The important thing is he's running Linux. Ubuntu does tend to be easier for beginners, but perhaps you can do him a favour, by installing KDE. That's what I did, on my one Ubuntu system here (the other 4 are all SUSE).

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With my very little experience with that, I cannot understand how can one say that gnome is better for the guys who are going to use linux for the first time?

Side question: Is it safe to leave laptop let's say overnight turned on, or even for more time? I leave my desktop on all the time, but not sure how it works for laptops. (it's thinkpad t61 I got it about a month ago...)

Cheers,

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Jan Engelhardt

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On Thursday 2008-04-24 19:18, Alexey Eremenko wrote:

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A nice site for those, who wanna be trolls or feed them: http://www.distrofight.com/

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Tony Alfrey

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Alexey Eremenko wrote:

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A nice site for those, who wanna be trolls or feed them: http://www.distrofight.com/

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