I have been following the recent list threads regarding nVidia issues, in the hope that I might glean something to resolve my problem. Until a couple of weeks ago I have been running 11.1 x86_64 on box with an nVidia GF 7300LE card driving a ViewSonic VX2235wm LCD monitor at it's native 1680x1050 resolution. The card died and I replaced it with a GF 9600GT. To cut a ridiculously long story short, I have tried every conceivable option I can think of (eg. sax2 -r -m 0=nv, with and without the nVidia drivers, direct editing of xorg.conf, totally clean install) to restore the 1680x1050 resolution. Without the nVidia drivers I can achieve a maximum resolution of 800x600, with the drivers I get an "eye blasting" 640x480, both of which are as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike. Endless Googling and list searching have not unearthed anything useful. Is there, by any chance, someone on this list running 11.x on a box with a 9600GT driving a VX2235wm at it's native 1680x1050 resolution? If so, would they please enlighten me as to how this is done? I have been using "battling" SuSE/OpenSUSE for around 15 years and overcome numerous configuration hurdles and obstacles, but this one makes me think it's now time to call it a day. TIA Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 02 April 2009 12:32:42 am Dave Barton wrote: ...
Is there, by any chance, someone on this list running 11.x on a box with a 9600GT driving a VX2235wm at it's native 1680x1050 resolution? If so, would they please enlighten me as to how this is done?
I have been using "battling" SuSE/OpenSUSE for around 15 years and overcome numerous configuration hurdles and obstacles, but this one makes me think it's now time to call it a day.
Hi Dave, To resolve your issues, it would be good to know what version of driver you are trying to use. Also it would be very helpful to see your /etc/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log . You can try to post those files on http://pastebin.ca , or any other place accessible from the Internet, and post links here. Without that any advice is poking in the dark. Taking that your previous card died, it could be also hardware issue, between monitor and graphic adapter. The sax2 is no more dependable tool as it was once. While it works good most of the time, there situations where it is easier to edit xorg.conf by hand. I changes subject to reflect the problem at hand. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Thursday 02 April 2009 12:32:42 am Dave Barton wrote: ...
Is there, by any chance, someone on this list running 11.x on a box with a 9600GT driving a VX2235wm at it's native 1680x1050 resolution? If so, would they please enlighten me as to how this is done?
I have been using "battling" SuSE/OpenSUSE for around 15 years and overcome numerous configuration hurdles and obstacles, but this one makes me think it's now time to call it a day.
Hi Dave,
To resolve your issues, it would be good to know what version of driver you are trying to use.
Take your pick. I have tried them all. According to SuSE and nVidia, the correct driver is: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.44-pkg2.run or from the repository: nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-default-180.29_2.6.27.18_0.3-0.1.x86_64.rpm x11-video-nvidiaG02-180.29-0.1.x86_64.rpm
Also it would be very helpful to see your /etc/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log . You can try to post those files on http://pastebin.ca , or any other place accessible from the Internet, and post links here.
There are dozens of previous copies. I have packaged the most recent ones here: http://tasit.net/files/xorg.zip
Without that any advice is poking in the dark. Taking that your previous card died, it could be also hardware issue, between monitor and graphic adapter.
Oh! How I wish it was that simple. Unfortunately, with the new card, Windows XP resolutions and graphics are truly outstanding.
The sax2 is no more dependable tool as it was once. While it works good most of the time, there situations where it is easier to edit xorg.conf by hand.
Agreed. I only mentioned sax2 as one of the desperate attempts I have tried to recover some form of usable display.
I changes subject to reflect the problem at hand.
Fine, but it doesn't change how I feel. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Barton wrote:
I have been following the recent list threads regarding nVidia issues, in the hope that I might glean something to resolve my problem.
Until a couple of weeks ago I have been running 11.1 x86_64 on box with an nVidia GF 7300LE card driving a ViewSonic VX2235wm LCD monitor at it's native 1680x1050 resolution. The card died and I replaced it with a GF 9600GT. To cut a ridiculously long story short, I have tried every conceivable option I can think of (eg. sax2 -r -m 0=nv, with and without the nVidia drivers, direct editing of xorg.conf, totally clean install) to restore the 1680x1050 resolution.
Without the nVidia drivers I can achieve a maximum resolution of 800x600, with the drivers I get an "eye blasting" 640x480, both of which are as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
Endless Googling and list searching have not unearthed anything useful.
Is there, by any chance, someone on this list running 11.x on a box with a 9600GT driving a VX2235wm at it's native 1680x1050 resolution? If so, would they please enlighten me as to how this is done?
I have been using "battling" SuSE/OpenSUSE for around 15 years and overcome numerous configuration hurdles and obstacles, but this one makes me think it's now time to call it a day.
TIA
Dave
I'm not running a 9600GT but have you tried the 180.44 driver from http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us and if you are running kde (I'm not sure where it is on other gui menus) go to system > configuration > Configure NVIDIA X Server Settings or simply type nvidia-settings in a terminal or enter it into the run menu. Note that this program has to be run by root for the settings to stick. It enables you to do anything that is possible with your graphics card. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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From: Dave Plater
Dave Barton wrote:
I have been following the recent list threads regarding nVidia issues, in the hope that I might glean something to resolve my problem.
Until a couple of weeks ago I have been running 11.1 x86_64 on box with an nVidia GF 7300LE card driving a ViewSonic VX2235wm LCD monitor at it's native 1680x1050 resolution. The card died and I replaced it with a GF 9600GT. To cut a ridiculously long story short, I have tried every conceivable option I can think of (eg. sax2 -r -m 0=nv, with and without the nVidia drivers, direct editing of xorg.conf, totally clean install) to restore the 1680x1050 resolution.
Without the nVidia drivers I can achieve a maximum resolution of 800x600, with the drivers I get an "eye blasting" 640x480, both of which are as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
Endless Googling and list searching have not unearthed anything useful.
Is there, by any chance, someone on this list running 11.x on a box with a 9600GT driving a VX2235wm at it's native 1680x1050 resolution? If so, would they please enlighten me as to how this is done?
I have been using "battling" SuSE/OpenSUSE for around 15 years and overcome numerous configuration hurdles and obstacles, but this one makes me think it's now time to call it a day.
TIA
Dave
I'm not running a 9600GT but have you tried the 180.44 driver from http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us and if you are running kde (I'm not sure where it is on other gui menus) go to system > configuration > Configure NVIDIA X Server Settings or simply type nvidia-settings in a terminal or enter it into the run menu. Note that this program has to be run by root for the settings to stick. It enables you to do anything that is possible with your graphics card. Regards Dave P
Thanks Dave. I have already tried the 180.44 driver. The display was marginally better than with the repository 180.29 rpms, but it was still useless for my needs. Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Barton wrote:
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To: opensuse@opensuse.org Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:33:33 +0200 Dave Barton wrote:
I have been following the recent list threads regarding nVidia issues, in the hope that I might glean something to resolve my problem.
Until a couple of weeks ago I have been running 11.1 x86_64 on box with an nVidia GF 7300LE card driving a ViewSonic VX2235wm LCD monitor at it's native 1680x1050 resolution. The card died and I replaced it with a GF 9600GT. To cut a ridiculously long story short, I have tried every conceivable option I can think of (eg. sax2 -r -m 0=nv, with and without the nVidia drivers, direct editing of xorg.conf, totally clean install) to restore the 1680x1050 resolution.
Without the nVidia drivers I can achieve a maximum resolution of 800x600, with the drivers I get an "eye blasting" 640x480, both of which are as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
Endless Googling and list searching have not unearthed anything useful.
Is there, by any chance, someone on this list running 11.x on a box with a 9600GT driving a VX2235wm at it's native 1680x1050 resolution? If so, would they please enlighten me as to how this is done?
I have been using "battling" SuSE/OpenSUSE for around 15 years and overcome numerous configuration hurdles and obstacles, but this one makes me think it's now time to call it a day.
TIA
Dave
I'm not running a 9600GT but have you tried the 180.44 driver from http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us and if you are running kde (I'm not sure where it is on other gui menus) go to system > configuration > Configure NVIDIA X Server Settings or simply type nvidia-settings in a terminal or enter it into the run menu. Note that this program has to be run by root for the settings to stick. It enables you to do anything that is possible with your graphics card. Regards Dave P
Thanks Dave. I have already tried the 180.44 driver. The display was marginally better than with the repository 180.29 rpms, but it was still useless for my needs.
Regards
Dave
When you compiled the 180.44 driver did you try with and without the 32 bit compatibility mode (assuming you're running x86_64) and in nvidia-settings, after pressing "detect displays", what resolutions are available? Never use sax2 with an nvidia 3d enabled driver. Another thing to check is, your current refresh rate setting may be preventing higher resolutions. Try switching outputs on your card and cycling the power on your box and display. There must be a simple solution to the problem, the most frustrating problems usually have the simplest solutions. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Another thing to check is, your current refresh rate setting may be preventing higher resolutions.
I've been using nVidia cards for years with openSUSE - the do work fine.. MUCH better than anything that ATI manages to cough out. The detected monitor refresh rates have caused problems for me in the past. If the detected rates are wrong (as suggested by DaveP)... then the driver will think that the monitor cannot support higher resolutions than the fallback 800x600 and under. After reading this thread, that is the *first* place I'd be looking to sort out your problem. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Plater wrote:
Dave Barton wrote:
Thanks Dave. I have already tried the 180.44 driver. The display was marginally better than with the repository 180.29 rpms, but it was still useless for my needs.
Regards
Dave
When you compiled the 180.44 driver did you try with and without the 32 bit compatibility mode (assuming you're running x86_64) and in nvidia-settings, after pressing "detect displays", what resolutions are available? Never use sax2 with an nvidia 3d enabled driver. Another thing to check is, your current refresh rate setting may be preventing higher resolutions. Try switching outputs on your card and cycling the power on your box and display. There must be a simple solution to the problem, the most frustrating problems usually have the simplest solutions. Regards Dave P
I see your display has a digital and an analogue input, I assume your gfxcard only has digital outputs but you should have a DVI to analogue vga adapter. Try using another output. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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From: Dave Plater
Dave Plater wrote:
Dave Barton wrote:
Thanks Dave. I have already tried the 180.44 driver. The display was marginally better than with the repository 180.29 rpms, but it was still useless for my needs.
Regards
Dave
When you compiled the 180.44 driver did you try with and without the 32 bit compatibility mode (assuming you're running x86_64) and in nvidia-settings, after pressing "detect displays", what resolutions are available? Never use sax2 with an nvidia 3d enabled driver. Another thing to check is, your current refresh rate setting may be preventing higher resolutions. Try switching outputs on your card and cycling the power on your box and display. There must be a simple solution to the problem, the most frustrating problems usually have the simplest solutions. Regards Dave P
I see your display has a digital and an analogue input, I assume your gfxcard only has digital outputs but you should have a DVI to analogue vga adapter. Try using another output. Regards Dave P
Dave, I beat you to the answer by a few minutes, but 10 out of 10 for picking this up. After my last post I went back and and looked at the hardware probe report, which showed the monitor was being incorrectly detected as: Unique ID: rdCR.EY_qmtb9YY0 Hardware Class: monitor Model: "Generic Monitor" Vendor: "Generic" Device: "Monitor" Resolution: 1024x768@76Hz Driver Info #0: Max. Resolution: 1024x768 Vert. Sync Range: 50-90 Hz Hor. Sync Range: 31-61 kHz When I replaced the 7300LE card with the 9600GT, I saw no reason to use the analogue adaptor. It never occurred to me that a digital connection would affect hardware detection, but it most certainly does. With an analogue connection the monitor is accurately detected and the nVidia driver automatically kicks in, with full 1680x1050 resolution. While this seems to fly in the face of logic and reason, I don't care, so long as I can get out of Windows, back to my favourite distro. Thanks again Dave P, also to Clayton, Tony Alfrey, Dave Rankin, Philipp Thomas and Rajko M. for offering suggestions to try and help get me back on track. Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Barton wrote:
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To: opensuse@opensuse.org Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:14:35 +0200 Dave Plater wrote:
Dave Barton wrote:
Thanks Dave. I have already tried the 180.44 driver. The display was marginally better than with the repository 180.29 rpms, but it was still useless for my needs.
Regards
Dave
When you compiled the 180.44 driver did you try with and without the 32 bit compatibility mode (assuming you're running x86_64) and in nvidia-settings, after pressing "detect displays", what resolutions are available? Never use sax2 with an nvidia 3d enabled driver. Another thing to check is, your current refresh rate setting may be preventing higher resolutions. Try switching outputs on your card and cycling the power on your box and display. There must be a simple solution to the problem, the most frustrating problems usually have the simplest solutions. Regards Dave P
I see your display has a digital and an analogue input, I assume your gfxcard only has digital outputs but you should have a DVI to analogue vga adapter. Try using another output. Regards Dave P
Dave, I beat you to the answer by a few minutes, but 10 out of 10 for picking this up. After my last post I went back and and looked at the hardware probe report, which showed the monitor was being incorrectly detected as:
Unique ID: rdCR.EY_qmtb9YY0 Hardware Class: monitor Model: "Generic Monitor" Vendor: "Generic" Device: "Monitor" Resolution: 1024x768@76Hz Driver Info #0: Max. Resolution: 1024x768 Vert. Sync Range: 50-90 Hz Hor. Sync Range: 31-61 kHz
When I replaced the 7300LE card with the 9600GT, I saw no reason to use the analogue adaptor. It never occurred to me that a digital connection would affect hardware detection, but it most certainly does. With an analogue connection the monitor is accurately detected and the nVidia driver automatically kicks in, with full 1680x1050 resolution.
While this seems to fly in the face of logic and reason, I don't care, so long as I can get out of Windows, back to my favourite distro.
Thanks again Dave P, also to Clayton, Tony Alfrey, Dave Rankin, Philipp Thomas and Rajko M. for offering suggestions to try and help get me back on track.
Best Regards
Dave
I would have thought that the DVI connector would have better detection than the i2c bus in the analogue one. Must be a bug somewhere. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 02 April 2009 07:14:37 am Dave Barton wrote: ...
When I replaced the 7300LE card with the 9600GT, I saw no reason to use the analogue adaptor. It never occurred to me that a digital connection would affect hardware detection, but it most certainly does. With an analogue connection the monitor is accurately detected and the nVidia driver automatically kicks in, with full 1680x1050 resolution.
Still bad driver :-) Probably xorg.conf needs few parameters to tell nvidia driver that it should use DFP instead of CRT. Nvidia driver can recognize: Option "Metamodes" "1680x1050" Option "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"
While this seems to fly in the face of logic and reason, I don't care, so long as I can get out of Windows, back to my favourite distro.
I was delayed to post what I found in Xorg.99.log. The nv driver from xorg.conf.install (failsafe mode) had a problem to detect monitor, so I tried to find option to disable that detection, and set modes manually. Problem is to find option that is appropriate because it changed and it is documented, but deep in readmes. The latest nvidia driver would use: Option "UseEDID" "FALSE" that would do exactly what is needed. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Barton wrote:
I have been following the recent list threads regarding nVidia issues, in the hope that I might glean something to resolve my problem.
You might ask on this list: linux-users@linux-sxs.org There is a skilled, but sometimes blunt, nvidia employee that lives there. -- Tony Alfrey tonyalfrey@earthlink.net "I'd Rather Be Sailing" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Barton wrote:
I have been following the recent list threads regarding nVidia issues, in the hope that I might glean something to resolve my problem.
Until a couple of weeks ago I have been running 11.1 x86_64 on box with an nVidia GF 7300LE card driving a ViewSonic VX2235wm LCD monitor at it's native 1680x1050 resolution. The card died and I replaced it with a GF 9600GT. To cut a ridiculously long story short, I have tried every conceivable option I can think of (eg. sax2 -r -m 0=nv, with and without the nVidia drivers, direct editing of xorg.conf, totally clean install) to restore the 1680x1050 resolution.
Without the nVidia drivers I can achieve a maximum resolution of 800x600, with the drivers I get an "eye blasting" 640x480, both of which are as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
Endless Googling and list searching have not unearthed anything useful.
Is there, by any chance, someone on this list running 11.x on a box with a 9600GT driving a VX2235wm at it's native 1680x1050 resolution? If so, would they please enlighten me as to how this is done?
I have been using "battling" SuSE/OpenSUSE for around 15 years and overcome numerous configuration hurdles and obstacles, but this one makes me think it's now time to call it a day.
TIA
Dave
Dave, I think the following bug report may be of some help: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445549 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Dave Barton (db@tasit.net) [20090402 07:32]:
I have been using "battling" SuSE/OpenSUSE for around 15 years and overcome numerous configuration hurdles and obstacles, but this one makes me think it's now time to call it a day.
You have tried running the nvidia configuration utility and see if it can fix the problem? BTW, posting at least part of Xorg.0.log could help inpointing the culprit. As could detailing the steps you've taken and the error messages or log messages you got. Without any of that information no one is going to be able to help you. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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