On Monday 11 July 2005 14:31, mjroy2416@rogers.com wrote:

Hello Jay: I'm running SuSE 9.3 / 64-bit mode on an AMD 64 on an Asus K8V Deluxe motherboard. As 9.3 came on a dual-layer DVD, I wanted to burn a backup copy so I purchased a

LG GSA-4163B

CD/DVD player/burner. The mechanical install was easy and, after re-booting, SuSE asked if I wanted to install new hardware (the DVD burner). In less than two hours, I had installed and burned my first dual-layer DVD with no problems. No hunting on the Internet for the right driver, no searching for the right CD/DVD - everything just worked. I'm living in Ottawa, Canada, and I purchased this unit on sale for about Cdn$70. It works fine under SuSE and will burn any flavor of DVD. Hope this helps. Cheers, Mike

Thanks for your input, Mike. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@CONSOLIDATEDLINT.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK IGNORE FULLWISE

Hello Jay: I'm running SuSE 9.3 / 64-bit mode on an AMD 64 on an Asus K8V Deluxe motherboard. As 9.3 came on a dual-layer DVD, I wanted to burn a backup copy so I purchased a

LG GSA-4163B

CD/DVD player/burner. The mechanical install was easy and, after re-booting, SuSE asked if I wanted to install new hardware (the DVD burner). In less than two hours, I had installed and burned my first dual-layer DVD with no problems. No hunting on the Internet for the right driver, no searching for the right CD/DVD - everything just worked. I'm living in Ottawa, Canada, and I purchased this unit on sale for about Cdn$70. It works fine under SuSE and will burn any flavor of DVD. Hope this helps. Cheers, Mike

On Monday 11 July 2005 2:30 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Jay Vollmer [07-11-05 13:15]:

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The time has come for me to purchase a DVD recorder. Can anyone offer advice as to which brands/models work well under Linux/K3B, or which to avoid? I also have purchased the LG drive. I chose it because it reads/writes dvd-ram media which is like having an optical hard drive. You read and write by the file, not an iso image. I got mine from shop4tech for $55.00 including shipping. The media is a little pricy compared to dvd-rw ($7-8usd), but i think it is well worth it. I understand that the quality of

On Monday 11 July 2005 12:31, mjroy2416@rogers.com wrote: the media is greater than the dvd-r,rw. My only beef is that the LG drive does not accept cartdidges, and they are the dvd-ram standard. -- John R. Sowden AMERICAN SENTRY SYSTEMS, INC. Residential & Commercial Alarm Service UL Listed Central Station Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967 mail@americansentry.net www.americansentry.net

On Tuesday 12 July 2005 12:27, Kevin Donnelly wrote:

On Monday 11 Jul 2005 19:30, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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I have *always* had good luck with Plextors.

Plextor products should probably be avoided, given their attitude to free software: http://trends.newsforge.com/trends/05/07/05/140214.shtml? tid=152&tid=147&tid=125&tid=132&tid=69

I don't think it matters which dvd drive you buy because they don't need OS specific drivers. They work by plugging them into the hard disk ide cable but I'd recommend getting a dual layer burner if only to make a backup of your SuSE dvd. I can't understand why Plextor would have that attitude. Surely they too want to shift dvd drives and make money in the hardware market don't they? If someone provides a driver free of charge for systems which are not available out of the box then that to my mind is free advertising and encourages sales. Steve.

On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 14:02 +0100, Kevanf1 wrote:

On 12/07/05, steve wrote:

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I don't think it matters which dvd drive you buy because they don't need OS specific drivers. They work by plugging them into the hard disk ide cable but I'd recommend getting a dual layer burner if only to make a backup of your SuSE dvd.

I can't understand why Plextor would have that attitude. Surely they too want to shift dvd drives and make money in the hardware market don't they? If someone provides a driver free of charge for systems which are not available out of the box then that to my mind is free advertising and encourages sales.

Steve.

Not really applicable to this thread but related nonetheless. I burned a copy of the 9.3 DVD in another PC. It burned lovely, dual layer not a problem. Until I tried to read it in the Linux tin. It wouldn't have it. Yet, it reads the original 9.3 DVD without any problem. I have not yet checked the dual layer home burned DVD with Linux in the first PC (used to burn the disk) as it's normally Win tin. I do have a disk with Linux on it though so I shall check to ensure it's not a Linux issue. I very much doubt it.

Any "tin" is not OS specific until the OS is installed. Did you try the DVD on another box to see if it would boot? I suspect some problem exists with the DVD burner used to create the DVD. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

On Wednesday 13 July 2005 3:41 am, Kevanf1 wrote:

I did indeed try an M$ Win drive in the old tin (PC) and that particular DVD is not read by Win either. It can be read by both M$ Win and Linux on the new tin. You quite correct, of course, and it could be a problem with the DVD burner (though I hope not as it is only a few months old and not had much use). I suspect that it is just one of those things. I have burned other disks and read them in other drives quite succesfully from the same dual layer drive. It could be a number of things from media used (Infiniti brand) to very slightly different tracking of the laser in the two drives. If I had another DVD drive I would check the disk in that. Unfortunately I don't :-( When I get the opportunity I will check it against another though.

Hope that wasn't too confusing :-)

Kevan Farmer

ALWAYS check the DVD burner's website for firmware updates. My NEC ND-3520AW didn't support several formats with the firmware out of the box. A quick update and it does almost everything known to the DVD burning universe except dual-layer multisession. www.CDFreaks.com is a good place to start... Stan

Kevin Donnelly wrote:

On Monday 11 Jul 2005 19:30, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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I have *always* had good luck with Plextors.

Plextor products should probably be avoided, given their attitude to free software: http://trends.newsforge.com/trends/05/07/05/140214.shtml?tid=152&tid=147&tid=125&tid=132&tid=69

I believe that the Lite-On product is a Plextor drive with a different name. -- David C. Johanson Linux Counter # 116410 Powered by SuSE Linux 7.3 People who behold a phenomenon will often extend their thinking beyond it; people who merely hear about the phenomenon will not be moved to think at all. -- Goethe

On Monday 11 July 2005 21:12, Jay Vollmer wrote:

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The time has come for me to purchase a DVD recorder. Can anyone offer advice as to which brands/models work well under Linux/K3B, or which to avoid? Am I better off with an external USB, or internal IDE?

I'm very happy with the latest LG burner. (internal IDE) Just dropped in a dual layer blank (still expensive) and hit Copy DVD in K3B. Duplicated SuSE9.3 perfectly. -- Michael James michael.james@csiro.au System Administrator voice: 02 6246 5040 CSIRO Bioinformatics Facility fax: 02 6246 5166 No matter how much you pay for software, you always get less than you hoped. Unless you pay nothing, then you get more.

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LaCie sponsor K3B which is a good enough resone for me. USB if you want/need to move it to another machine internal if you don't

Depends on which country. A friend of mine has an external usb cd or dvd recorder, bought from lacie. It needs a firmware update, but lacie says something like they only make the enclosure, the drive is not theirs. The makers of the drive (a known one, perhaps _NEC-DVD_RW_ND-3500AG, I'd have to ask him to verify) say that the update can not be used if the drive is conected through usb on an external enclosure.. To me, that sounds like lacie do not support their own products... :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFC07kDtTMYHG2NR9URAvHVAKCWLczXLtq/6iebRZgCksSv5BMHsACfaEnv vnZD91P3sOQmdj00CChXrZ8= =e8s8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----