[opensuse] I have problems with knotify4 segfaulting or crashing.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I use XFCE under 13.1, and in it, some KDE applications (lokalize, for instance). I get, too often for conforts, popups that notify crashed, report bug. I have to cancel a bunch of them. The logs have entries like this: <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:44 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceAdded(QDBusObjectPath) <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:44 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceRemoved(QDBusObjectPath) <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:45 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - KCrash: Application 'knotify4' crashing... <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:45 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:45 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - unnamed app(10311): Communication problem with "knotify" , it probably crashed. <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:45 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" " <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:47 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 11 and type 'Read', disabling... <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:54 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceAdded(QDBusObjectPath) <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:54 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceRemoved(QDBusObjectPath) <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:55 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - KCrash: Application 'knotify4' crashing... <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:55 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:55 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - unnamed app(10338): Communication problem with "knotify" , it probably crashed. <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:55 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" " <1.4> 2015-10-29 21:22:57 Telcontar org.kde.knotify 21466 - - QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 11 and type 'Read', disabling... Can I do something to avoid these nuisance messages? The applications run fine, otherwise. It is just those pesky popup messages that I have to close. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYyhJYACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XJ6wCfSyyA0NqDfXdUraZvixvjfckQ OioAoIfVSfS4VdXr1oK8dmOQU/UDIvy3 =FSMu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/29/2015 1:41 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use XFCE under 13.1, and in it, some KDE applications (lokalize, for instance).
lokalize is not even on my KDE 4.14 install, but I see it at kde.org
Can I do something to avoid these nuisance messages? The applications run fine, otherwise. It is just those pesky popup messages that I have to close.
In the past I had similar things happen when I was running KDE applications on other desktops, and it always came down to the fact that those applications expected parts of KDE's base system to be running when they started. You might try starting knotify4 and see what fresh hell that brings forth. ;-) - -- _____________________________________ - ---This space for rent--- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlYyi2UACgkQv7M3G5+2DLJNdgCfWrCFPHwJes50kEN91LGKOlcx LOYAn1P6ASNsFNEu7J6nllZb5rFS10rS =6PBc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/29/2015 05:11 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 10/29/2015 1:41 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use XFCE under 13.1, and in it, some KDE applications (lokalize, for instance).
lokalize is not even on my KDE 4.14 install, but I see it at kde.org
Can I do something to avoid these nuisance messages? The applications run fine, otherwise. It is just those pesky popup messages that I have to close.
In the past I had similar things happen when I was running KDE applications on other desktops, and it always came down to the fact that those applications expected parts of KDE's base system to be running when they started.
I'm getting that message intermittently and I am running solely KDE4. The idea of a missing part might be a possibility, but if that's so then it has to with with the necessity and sufficiency of KDE4 being installed. If "kde4_basis" or "libkde4" is not specifying a dependency that is a key part, that knotify.desktop/knotify4 is missing something (as opposed to the kde3 binary) # rpm -qf /usr/bin/knotify4 kdebase4-runtime-14.12.3-10.53.x86_64 zypper verify passes OK. As Carlos says, the applications themselves run fine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/29/2015 02:34 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 10/29/2015 05:11 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 10/29/2015 1:41 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use XFCE under 13.1, and in it, some KDE applications (lokalize, for instance).
lokalize is not even on my KDE 4.14 install, but I see it at kde.org
Can I do something to avoid these nuisance messages? The applications run fine, otherwise. It is just those pesky popup messages that I have to close.
In the past I had similar things happen when I was running KDE applications on other desktops, and it always came down to the fact that those applications expected parts of KDE's base system to be running when they started.
I'm getting that message intermittently and I am running solely KDE4. The idea of a missing part might be a possibility, but if that's so then it has to with with the necessity and sufficiency of KDE4 being installed. If "kde4_basis" or "libkde4" is not specifying a dependency that is a key part, that knotify.desktop/knotify4 is missing something (as opposed to the kde3 binary)
# rpm -qf /usr/bin/knotify4 kdebase4-runtime-14.12.3-10.53.x86_64
zypper verify passes OK.
As Carlos says, the applications themselves run fine.
This bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1056769 seems to address the first event in Carlos's message list. (I'm working on the assumption that all subsequent events are just fallout from that one). Its a Dbus problem with QT. That suggests its harmless but quite annoying to everyone. Around about message 11 thru 13 in that thread is suggests it is fixed in framework 5 and back-ported into KDE 4.14 as well. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/29/2015 02:34 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 10/29/2015 05:11 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 10/29/2015 1:41 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use XFCE under 13.1, and in it, some KDE applications (lokalize, for instance).
lokalize is not even on my KDE 4.14 install, but I see it at kde.org
Can I do something to avoid these nuisance messages? The applications run fine, otherwise. It is just those pesky popup messages that I have to close.
In the past I had similar things happen when I was running KDE applications on other desktops, and it always came down to the fact that those applications expected parts of KDE's base system to be running when they started.
I'm getting that message intermittently and I am running solely KDE4. The idea of a missing part might be a possibility, but if that's so then it has to with with the necessity and sufficiency of KDE4 being installed. If "kde4_basis" or "libkde4" is not specifying a dependency that is a key part, that knotify.desktop/knotify4 is missing something (as opposed to the kde3 binary)
# rpm -qf /usr/bin/knotify4 kdebase4-runtime-14.12.3-10.53.x86_64
zypper verify passes OK.
As Carlos says, the applications themselves run fine.
By the way, I installed lokalize just to test, and I don't get warnings. I have kde 4.14.9, on OS3.12, so maybe the fix was backported to later versions of KDE. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-10-29 23:32, John Andersen wrote:
On 10/29/2015 02:34 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 10/29/2015 05:11 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 10/29/2015 1:41 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use XFCE under 13.1, and in it, some KDE applications (lokalize, for instance).
lokalize is not even on my KDE 4.14 install, but I see it at kde.org
It is a specialized tool for translating software. In 13.1 it is in the oss repo. The problem triggers when doing a search for string, when it gets to the end of the file and wraps round to start again from the top of the file. I think it tries to notify something and it can't.
In the past I had similar things happen when I was running KDE applications on other desktops, and it always came down to the fact that those applications expected parts of KDE's base system to be running when they started.
Well, yes, I'm using it under XFCE, so it can be that, yes.
I'm getting that message intermittently and I am running solely KDE4. The idea of a missing part might be a possibility, but if that's so then it has to with with the necessity and sufficiency of KDE4 being installed. If "kde4_basis" or "libkde4" is not specifying a dependency that is a key part, that knotify.desktop/knotify4 is missing something (as opposed to the kde3 binary)
Well, my KDE is fully installed (and works), I think, but just not running at the moment.
By the way, I installed lokalize just to test, and I don't get warnings. I have kde 4.14.9, on OS3.12, so maybe the fix was backported to later versions of KDE.
Well, 13.1 has 4.11.5... - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlYyrtEACgkQja8UbcUWM1w8kAD8DNtpOigmiL0Oy1bQYuiErqek YFJW8qECxOWZQm9ZJdIA/jW0kL2vBWux/C7org+8FWHQ2+amHVzMn7vK7HI/mKok =8/fX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. composed on 2015-10-29 21:41 (UTC+0100):
I use XFCE under 13.1, and in it, some KDE applications (lokalize, for instance).
I get, too often for conforts, popups that notify crashed, report bug. I have to cancel a bunch of them....
Aren't those a longstanding KDE feature? I get them at various times on what seems like most installations on my testing systems, which run the various past and current flavors of KDE and TDE almost exclusively. Knotify crashed on my primary/24/7 KDE3/13.1 seems to be a several times a month routine inherited from 11.4 and prior. I rarely use any other than KDE3 apps on my primary except for mozilla.org's FF & SM, and 0 KDE4 or KF5 apps. I use Gimp on occasion, but don't recall any such notifications in proximity to using it. .xsession-errors-:0 here is currently 95,877,406 bytes, with nothing to indicate when anything in it got put there. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-10-30 00:55, Felix Miata wrote:
Knotify crashed on my primary/24/7 KDE3/13.1 seems to be a several times a month routine inherited from 11.4 and prior. I rarely use any other than KDE3
I can live with a few times per month. This is every time I search for a string, which can be one per minute occurrence, depending on the phase of my work. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlYytUoACgkQja8UbcUWM1xYBAD/RrtzOaTdxPj+w0KB5WWtOHUm Nv8yk7DshhkEd9edP4cA/2E0AXRW8iXM2iHDqr2TGBZ33WMK+UsBfNZfzPYogu15 =NH4g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2015, 21:41:51 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Hi,
I use XFCE under 13.1, and in it, some KDE applications (lokalize, for instance).
Did you install vlc from packman ? Then it is probably https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347917 . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-10-30 04:42, Markus Koßmann wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2015, 21:41:51 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Hi,
I use XFCE under 13.1, and in it, some KDE applications (lokalize, for instance).
Did you install vlc from packman ? Then it is probably https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347917 .
WHAT!? [...] Wow. You are right...! I removed "phonon-backend-vlc" and now no knotify crashes when using lokalize. Of all the strangest things... :-o -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 2015-10-30 13:04, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-10-30 04:42, Markus Koßmann wrote:
Wow. You are right...!
I removed "phonon-backend-vlc" and now no knotify crashes when using lokalize.
However, I still have "libvlccore7-2.1.5-239.2.x86_64". Why would an application used for writing, like lokalize, use vlc for? :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Am Freitag, 30. Oktober 2015, 13:16:47 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2015-10-30 13:04, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-10-30 04:42, Markus Koßmann wrote:
Wow. You are right...!
I removed "phonon-backend-vlc" and now no knotify crashes when using lokalize.
However, I still have "libvlccore7-2.1.5-239.2.x86_64".
Why would an application used for writing, like lokalize, use vlc for? :-? It uses knotify to get your attention when its running in background and has messages for you and knotify might use vlc ( via phonon-backend-vlc) to play a sound to achieve that.
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On 2015-10-30 14:05, Markus Koßmann wrote:
Am Freitag, 30. Oktober 2015, 13:16:47 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Why would an application used for writing, like lokalize, use vlc for? :-? It uses knotify to get your attention when its running in background and has messages for you and knotify might use vlc ( via phonon-backend-vlc) to play a sound to achieve that.
Ahhh! I see. Makes sense. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
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