Hi, maybe you guys can help me on this, I have lived with it for a couple of years. I am using Thunderbird as the email program. I have a mailing list of emails for an organization for which I write the newsletter. Each month I mail out the newsletter, and I get back a notification that a particular email address fails to be delivered because it doesn't exist. When I type the address into the search box in Thunderbird's address window, the address doesn't exist in my address list. I have checked every email address in the list of addresses, and the address isn't included in the list. Here is the notification that I receive: On 10/13/2011 05:13 PM, Mail Administrator wrote:
This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected.
Recipient:
Reason: 5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try 5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or 5.1.1 unnecessary spaces.
I don't know what is causing this, and I don't have any good ideas about how to fix it. So I could use some help. Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Mark Misulich
I have a mailing list of emails for an organization for which I write the newsletter. Each month I mail out the newsletter, and I get back a notification that a particular email address fails to be delivered because it doesn't exist. When I type the address into the search box in Thunderbird's address window, the address doesn't exist in my address list.
I have checked every email address in the list of addresses, and the address isn't included in the list.
Here is the notification that I receive:
On 10/13/2011 05:13 PM, Mail Administrator wrote:
This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected.
Recipient:
Reason: 5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try 5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or 5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. I don't know what is causing this, and I don't have any good ideas about how to fix it. So I could use some help.
first check for a bcc (blind carbon copy) in the header of your original outgoing email. Also check for an alias containing that addr, it might refer to a good address. are you starting with a *new* email or a template, the template may contain the errant addr. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Mark Misulich
[10-13-11 18:14]: I have a mailing list of emails for an organization for which I write the newsletter. Each month I mail out the newsletter, and I get back a notification that a particular email address fails to be delivered because it doesn't exist. When I type the address into the search box in Thunderbird's address window, the address doesn't exist in my address list.
I have checked every email address in the list of addresses, and the address isn't included in the list.
Here is the notification that I receive:
On 10/13/2011 05:13 PM, Mail Administrator wrote:
This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected.
Recipient:
Reason: 5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try 5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or 5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. I don't know what is causing this, and I don't have any good ideas about how to fix it. So I could use some help.
first check for a bcc (blind carbon copy) in the header of your original outgoing email. Also check for an alias containing that addr, it might refer to a good address.
are you starting with a *new* email or a template, the template may contain the errant addr.
-- Hi,
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 18:18 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: the list is so large that I have it broken up into six different mailing groups. Each time I send out the emails, I send them as bcc so that the mailing address list can't be captured by someone else. What I normally do when I do the mailings is to click on the "write" button once for each of the six groups in the list. In the address window I click bcc, then type in the subdivision of the entire list, such as A-D, E-L, etc. Then I attach the newsletter to each email, paste in a subject in the subject window, and hit send. If I understand your reply, then sending them as a bcc could be the cause of this? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Mark Misulich
the list is so large that I have it broken up into six different mailing groups. Each time I send out the emails, I send them as bcc so that the mailing address list can't be captured by someone else.
What I normally do when I do the mailings is to click on the "write" button once for each of the six groups in the list. In the address window I click bcc, then type in the subdivision of the entire list, such as A-D, E-L, etc. Then I attach the newsletter to each email, paste in a subject in the subject window, and hit send.
If I understand your reply, then sending them as a bcc could be the cause of this?
No, just a lot of people think about bcc since it hides the names... I do the same/similar as you to a group of soccer parents/kids. I make an alias list of all the addrs and just use the alias to mail all at one go, but I use mutt instead of thunderbird (where I *no* experience). -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 13 October 2011 18:11:55 Mark Misulich wrote:
Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected.
Recipient:
Reason: 5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try 5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or 5.1.1 unnecessary spaces.
I don't know what is causing this, and I don't have any good ideas about how to fix it. So I could use some help.
A quick google tells me it is http://www.ohionsp.org/members/newprograms/senior/SEM%20DB.xlsx and the address is definitely listed there, next to the name Jeff Cox. I guess he gave you the wrong email address, but it is definitely in there A second mystery is why you can't see it in thunderbird - my *guess* is that it is because sending failed, and thunderbird only adds working addresses to its list of "recent addresses", and that this is where you looked, and not in your actual mailing list of addresses Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 00:30 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 13 October 2011 18:11:55 Mark Misulich wrote:
Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected.
Recipient:
Reason: 5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try 5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or 5.1.1 unnecessary spaces.
I don't know what is causing this, and I don't have any good ideas about how to fix it. So I could use some help.
A quick google tells me it is http://www.ohionsp.org/members/newprograms/senior/SEM%20DB.xlsx
and the address is definitely listed there, next to the name Jeff Cox. I guess he gave you the wrong email address, but it is definitely in there
A second mystery is why you can't see it in thunderbird - my *guess* is that it is because sending failed, and thunderbird only adds working addresses to its list of "recent addresses", and that this is where you looked, and not in your actual mailing list of addresses
Anders Hi, I just did a quick look at Jeff's email address in my list. It is a different address than the darktuek@gmail.com address, and the gmail address isn't listed as an alternate.
The address list in Thunderbird lists three different address lists. They are "Personal Address Book", my complete list of addresses that I use that I update regularly and backup on CD which I have named "LDIF", and another list called "Collected Addresses". Jeff's name and address only appears in my maintained LDIF list. There are no addresses or names in Personal address list, its empty. In collected addresses, there are names and addresses, but nothing under Jeff Cox or darktuek... In my LDIF list, Jeff has a different address and darktuek... produces nothing, no response. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 13 October 2011 18:58:06 Mark Misulich wrote:
Hi, I just did a quick look at Jeff's email address in my list. It is a different address than the darktuek@gmail.com address, and the gmail address isn't listed as an alternate.
The address list in Thunderbird lists three different address lists. They are "Personal Address Book", my complete list of addresses that I use that I update regularly and backup on CD which I have named "LDIF", and another list called "Collected Addresses". Jeff's name and address only appears in my maintained LDIF list.
There are no addresses or names in Personal address list, its empty.
In collected addresses, there are names and addresses, but nothing under Jeff Cox or darktuek...
In my LDIF list, Jeff has a different address and darktuek... produces nothing, no response.
Well, I can't see your data, so I can't say what's wrong, but since the address is in that spreadsheet, it didn't just come from the clear blue sky. It must be in there somewhere. Are you sure it isn't a remnant from some old setup? Perhaps you've created an alias somewhere that gets invoked when you send mail to the mailing list Or maybe another address gets transparently forwarded to that gmail address?! I'd expect the headers in the error email you got to show that though (something like an original-to header) Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 00:30 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 13 October 2011 18:11:55 Mark Misulich wrote:
Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected.
Recipient:
Reason: 5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try 5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or 5.1.1 unnecessary spaces.
I don't know what is causing this, and I don't have any good ideas about how to fix it. So I could use some help.
A quick google tells me it is http://www.ohionsp.org/members/newprograms/senior/SEM%20DB.xlsx
and the address is definitely listed there, next to the name Jeff Cox. I guess he gave you the wrong email address, but it is definitely in there
A second mystery is why you can't see it in thunderbird - my *guess* is that it is because sending failed, and thunderbird only adds working addresses to its list of "recent addresses", and that this is where you looked, and not in your actual mailing list of addresses
Anders
I had a look in the returned email source, and found this message. But I
am not sure why darktuek... appears in the return.
Original-Recipient: RFC822;
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-14 18:57, Mark Misulich wrote:
Does this indicate that the mail I sent to jpc686...is being forwarded to a gmail account darktuek... that no longer exists, and then returned to me as undeliverable?
That's the idea. Do not send the email to him anymore, and if he is interested he will complain :-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6YbdwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VtMQCfSEnILAmiHbDEZwga9EXbsW5h CSgAn0tGNDeJUpTy4STukDPgS0jKBMYq =Kk26 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-14 00:11, Mark Misulich wrote:
I don't know what is causing this, and I don't have any good ideas about how to fix it. So I could use some help.
A forwarded address. That's why list software exist. It can send differentiated headers for each recipient so that you can learn which one is failing. You could produce the email into a file, and send one by one by script. Plain text is easy enough, html I do not know. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6XdOMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9U26gCfdH2h5gUVdA0jCA1N6bUPueBv 4lwAn0FQ3yIKLDLICoQiaiGf5IoB+6HS =EhJf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, October 13, 2011 06:31:47 PM Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2011-10-14 00:11, Mark Misulich wrote:
I don't know what is causing this, and I don't have any good ideas about how to fix it. So I could use some help.
A forwarded address. ...
Reading headers of returned email notification that delivery failed should help. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. said the following on 10/13/2011 07:31 PM:
On 2011-10-14 00:11, Mark Misulich wrote:
I don't know what is causing this, and I don't have any good ideas about how to fix it. So I could use some help.
A forwarded address.
That's why list software exist. It can send differentiated headers for each recipient so that you can learn which one is failing.
You could produce the email into a file, and send one by one by script. Plain text is easy enough, html I do not know.
Use 'metasend' -- "What we have learned from others becomes our own by reflection". -- Ralph Waldo Emerson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Anders Johansson
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Anton Aylward
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Carlos E. R.
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Mark Misulich
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Patrick Shanahan
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Rajko M.