[opensuse] These packages need to be selected to install?
I have just started a fresh 42.3 install on my test desktop - I know I can't deselect grub2, but now I get this message:
These packages need to be selected to install: SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g, ntfsprogs Please manually select the needed items to install.
Followed by
Error The proposal contains an error that must be resolved before continuing.
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1065588 -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.1°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
I have just started a fresh 42.3 install on my test desktop - I know I can't deselect grub2, but now I get this message:
These packages need to be selected to install: SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g, ntfsprogs Please manually select the needed items to install.
Followed by
Error The proposal contains an error that must be resolved before continuing.
Very weird - I re-enabled the ntfs packages for installation, and then yast stopped complaining about SuSEfirewall2. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.6°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-01-31 10:33, Per Jessen wrote:
I have just started a fresh 42.3 install on my test desktop - I know I can't deselect grub2, but now I get this message:
These packages need to be selected to install: SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g, ntfsprogs Please manually select the needed items to install.
I'm curious why you want those packages out. I think you said you used your own firewall script, but I thought that was on some machines. On these I thought you used "defaults". Why they should block the install is also curious, but that is bugzilla matter. You could do a "default install", then use a script stored somewhere to customize things. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-01-31 10:33, Per Jessen wrote:
I have just started a fresh 42.3 install on my test desktop - I know I can't deselect grub2, but now I get this message:
These packages need to be selected to install: SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g, ntfsprogs Please manually select the needed items to install.
I'm curious why you want those packages out. I think you said you used your own firewall script, but I thought that was on some machines. On these I thought you used "defaults".
Generally yes, I try to - or at least I try to keep customisations to a minimum. I think it was just muscle memory - no real need to omit those on a desktop, even if they're not needed.
Why they should block the install is also curious, but that is bugzilla matter.
You could do a "default install", then use a script stored somewhere to customize things.
Yes that is the general idea, this list could be turned into a script: - yast: enable network printers, don't try to limit scope to local network only. - system settings - task switcher: compact, don't show window. - dolphin: setup tooltips, previews. - fix ntp.conf+keys - install acroread (will drag in loads of 32bit stuff) - amend syslog.conf - amend postfix conf - add nfs shares to fstab - add hostname to lock / login screen - optionally install nvidia drivers (looks like nouveau works on this machine). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.4°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 31/01/18 23:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have just started a fresh 42.3 install on my test desktop - I know I can't deselect grub2, but now I get this message:
These packages need to be selected to install: SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g, ntfsprogs Please manually select the needed items to install. I'm curious why you want those packages out. I think you said you used your own firewall script, but I thought that was on some machines. On
On 2018-01-31 10:33, Per Jessen wrote: these I thought you used "defaults".
Why they should block the install is also curious, but that is bugzilla matter.
You could do a "default install", then use a script stored somewhere to customize things.
What I cannot understand is why Per should be having this (other?) problem(s) when doing a clean install using a DVD is one of the most simplest things to do and without any dramas. Per, are you installing from a DVD or using some other method? BC -- Always be nice to people on your way up -- you'll see the same people on your way down. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-02 06:03, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 31/01/18 23:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have just started a fresh 42.3 install on my test desktop - I know I can't deselect grub2, but now I get this message:
These packages need to be selected to install: SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g, ntfsprogs Please manually select the needed items to install. I'm curious why you want those packages out. I think you said you used your own firewall script, but I thought that was on some machines. On
On 2018-01-31 10:33, Per Jessen wrote: these I thought you used "defaults".
Why they should block the install is also curious, but that is bugzilla matter.
You could do a "default install", then use a script stored somewhere to customize things.
What I cannot understand is why Per should be having this (other?) problem(s) when doing a clean install using a DVD is one of the most simplest things to do and without any dramas.
Per, are you installing from a DVD or using some other method?
He boots an image from the network. PXE. It ends being the same DVD, but once installed he has to do several customizations. There are too many, so perhaps what he needs is autoyast. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/02/18 16:08, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-02 06:03, Basil Chupin wrote:
I have just started a fresh 42.3 install on my test desktop - I know I can't deselect grub2, but now I get this message:
These packages need to be selected to install: SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g, ntfsprogs Please manually select the needed items to install. I'm curious why you want those packages out. I think you said you used your own firewall script, but I thought that was on some machines. On
On 2018-01-31 10:33, Per Jessen wrote: these I thought you used "defaults".
Why they should block the install is also curious, but that is bugzilla matter.
You could do a "default install", then use a script stored somewhere to customize things. What I cannot understand is why Per should be having this (other?)
On 31/01/18 23:28, Carlos E. R. wrote: problem(s) when doing a clean install using a DVD is one of the most simplest things to do and without any dramas.
Per, are you installing from a DVD or using some other method? He boots an image from the network. PXE. It ends being the same DVD, but once installed he has to do several customizations. There are too many, so perhaps what he needs is autoyast.
Whatever :-). I have no need for such hocus-pocus stuff so I'll leave further discussion on this to you and Per :-). BC -- Always be nice to people on your way up -- you'll see the same people on your way down. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-02 06:03, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 31/01/18 23:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-01-31 10:33, Per Jessen wrote:
I have just started a fresh 42.3 install on my test desktop - I know I can't deselect grub2, but now I get this message:
These packages need to be selected to install: SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g, ntfsprogs Please manually select the needed items to install. I'm curious why you want those packages out. I think you said you used your own firewall script, but I thought that was on some machines. On these I thought you used "defaults".
Why they should block the install is also curious, but that is bugzilla matter.
You could do a "default install", then use a script stored somewhere to customize things.
What I cannot understand is why Per should be having this (other?) problem(s) when doing a clean install using a DVD is one of the most simplest things to do and without any dramas.
If your system-to-be-installed happens to have an NTFS filesystem, it looks like YaST insists on installing those ntfs utilities, regardless of whether you're mounting them. To recreate, install Leap 423 from DVD, deselect SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs.
Per, are you installing from a DVD or using some other method?
He boots an image from the network. PXE. It ends being the same DVD, but once installed he has to do several customizations. There are too many, so perhaps what he needs is autoyast.
autoyast is big gun with a steep learning curve. I don't really install often enough to warrant the full effort. However, what would be really cool is for an installation to fetch certain defaults, e.g. from a tftp server or similar, if available. i.e. a list of pre-set option: language, keyboard, timezone, userid+passwds, packages to include, packages to exclude. I think it might even be possible with autoyast, I have experimented a bit. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.3°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/02/2018 12:37 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
If your system-to-be-installed happens to have an NTFS filesystem, it looks like YaST insists on installing those ntfs utilities, regardless of whether you're mounting them. To recreate, install Leap 423 from DVD, deselect SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs.
You knew we would end up here when installers began thinking they new better which packages the user wanted installed on their systems than the user themselves. Frustrating at times... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-02 07:37, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-02 06:03, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 31/01/18 23:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You could do a "default install", then use a script stored somewhere to customize things.
What I cannot understand is why Per should be having this (other?) problem(s) when doing a clean install using a DVD is one of the most simplest things to do and without any dramas.
If your system-to-be-installed happens to have an NTFS filesystem, it looks like YaST insists on installing those ntfs utilities, regardless of whether you're mounting them. To recreate, install Leap 423 from DVD, deselect SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs.
Sometimes it is easier not to fight it ;-)
Per, are you installing from a DVD or using some other method?
He boots an image from the network. PXE. It ends being the same DVD, but once installed he has to do several customizations. There are too many, so perhaps what he needs is autoyast.
autoyast is big gun with a steep learning curve. I don't really install often enough to warrant the full effort. However, what would be really cool is for an installation to fetch certain defaults, e.g. from a tftp server or similar, if available. i.e. a list of pre-set option: language, keyboard, timezone, userid+passwds, packages to include, packages to exclude. I think it might even be possible with autoyast, I have experimented a bit.
Yes, autoyast is difficult, I had a look once. But it does those things. I don't remember if it handles repos, though. If the machines are very similar, another method is install an image (dd or clonezilla). Then you only need to change IP and name. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS 42.3 "Malachite" (rescate 1)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-02 07:37, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-02 06:03, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 31/01/18 23:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You could do a "default install", then use a script stored somewhere to customize things.
What I cannot understand is why Per should be having this (other?) problem(s) when doing a clean install using a DVD is one of the most simplest things to do and without any dramas.
If your system-to-be-installed happens to have an NTFS filesystem, it looks like YaST insists on installing those ntfs utilities, regardless of whether you're mounting them. To recreate, install Leap 423 from DVD, deselect SuSEfirewall2, ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs.
Sometimes it is easier not to fight it ;-)
Very true.
Per, are you installing from a DVD or using some other method?
He boots an image from the network. PXE. It ends being the same DVD, but once installed he has to do several customizations. There are too many, so perhaps what he needs is autoyast.
autoyast is big gun with a steep learning curve. I don't really install often enough to warrant the full effort. However, what would be really cool is for an installation to fetch certain defaults, e.g. from a tftp server or similar, if available. i.e. a list of pre-set option: language, keyboard, timezone, userid+passwds, packages to include, packages to exclude. I think it might even be possible with autoyast, I have experimented a bit.
Yes, autoyast is difficult, I had a look once. But it does those things. I don't remember if it handles repos, though.
Ah yes, forgot about those - would be nice to have the standard set added automagically too. One of these days I'll have a closer look.
If the machines are very similar, another method is install an image (dd or clonezilla). Then you only need to change IP and name.
Yes, for e.g. clusters I just do a tar'ed image of the first install, copy to the rest. For the desktops, they're rarely the same spec. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.5°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes, autoyast is difficult, I had a look once. But it does those things. I don't remember if it handles repos, though.
Ah yes, forgot about those - would be nice to have the standard set added automagically too. One of these days I'll have a closer look.
I once did/tried that (for PXE) by changing the xml configuration files and building the appropriate rootfs image again... (I have a local copy of the repos) Did work, but an official (and smoother) way is clearly preferable. I did shy back from autoyast, too :o -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-02 15:09, Peter Suetterlin wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes, autoyast is difficult, I had a look once. But it does those things. I don't remember if it handles repos, though.
Ah yes, forgot about those - would be nice to have the standard set added automagically too. One of these days I'll have a closer look.
I once did/tried that (for PXE) by changing the xml configuration files and building the appropriate rootfs image again... (I have a local copy of the repos)
Did work, but an official (and smoother) way is clearly preferable.
I did shy back from autoyast, too :o
Adding some repos and a list of packages is easy with a script that calls zypper. But you have to take careful notes when you install the first machine to create the script. I don't remember if there is a command equivalent to the yast "switch sytem packages to this repo", perhaps something like "zypper dup from". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
Le 02/02/2018 à 20:31, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
I don't remember if there is a command equivalent to the yast "switch sytem packages to this repo", perhaps something like "zypper dup from".
exactly jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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