[opensuse] Account Help - Which is used for paste.opensuse.org?
All, I was at paste.opensuse.org and clicked Login and the Openid box appeared. Which ID is my Openid? The myaccount.suse one or the buildservice/bugzilla one or the OSC one? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
07.06.2020 09:01, David C. Rankin пишет:
Neither one. This site was never integrated with SUSE accounts and I have never needed to log in in the first place. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/07/2020 02:44 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
There, I'm not sure... I have it as opensuse-community.org (was this the old wiki build thing? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/07/2020 08:28 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Oh...Nevermind -- that site was from July 2008, so that would have been right as the SuSE/openSUSE transition occurred with the release of 11.0. That's probably a account I can drop from keepassx. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2020-06-07 at 10:57 +0200, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Still, that leaves the question: which login is that? Maybe with login there are more features, like deleting a paste, or allowing bigger sizes or longer times. Sometimes the paste is rejected because something says it is spam: maybe with login this is more lenient. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHkEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXty/IRwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVo3cAkwXip/kMpzPqsWVt/Qp7 SaL98RIAnR6F0RzcizZx8jnKrpOAMrkp65Md =EUG+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2020-06-07 at 12:39 +0200, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Send an email to admin@o.o instead of merely guessing and making assumptions you have no ground for.
Why? It is not under o.o control Why do you seem angry at my assumptions/guesses/queries? It is a free country, I can have my opinion and guesses, and I can express them here so that if any one knows, they can comment. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXtzFPBwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVbMsAnAvlm8k0wbdTzrpSffyA HlbVj18gAJ9Eh7gsb7FrO0eL4r46EJjmtmeT+g== =bxSS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:45:15 CEST schreef Carlos E. R.:
Huh? A *.opensuse.org subdomain not under opensuse control ?
That's your perception that I'm angry. Fact is I'm not. I just think that a support platform is not about opinions, guesses. And it's been said hundreds of times that creating a ticket by sending an email to admin@opensuse.org is the way to deal with things that you think are wrong. -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
07.06.2020 14:53, Knurpht-openSUSE пишет:
Where is o.o in susepaste.org?
Nobody said anything about "wrong". As there is no documentation on this web page what account is needed, but it offers Login button, all is left to us is guessing. And asking others is pretty normal. Do you intend to misuse admin@o.o as replacement for proper documentation? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Sonntag, 7. Juni 2020, 14:13:34 CEST schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:
paste.opensuse.org is aliased (CNAME) to susepaste.org - and it is indeed managed by a now-external contributor (former SUSE employee) on his own server/VM.
I'm sorry to say that, but your mail indeed sounded a bit angry or at least annoyed ("[...] instead of merely guessing and making assumptions you have no ground for"). Maybe re-reading this part helps to understand why Carlos thought you might be angry. But good to know that it was not meant this way.
... and he's right with that (at least it was that way when I needed/ tested it last time) - by logging in, you can paste things that the spam detection would otherwise block (for example something that includes 10 links). And to answer the initial question: It's an openID login. If you want to use your openSUSE account, you can enter https://www.opensuse.org/openid in the login field on paste.o.o/susepaste.org. This will redirect you to a login page (id.opensuse.org [1]) where you can login with your openSUSE (bugzilla/wiki/OBS/...) login. You'll then see you which of your account data will be relayed to paste.opensuse.org. Allow that, and you are logged in. Note: The login page doesn't look openSUSE'ish yet because we had to switch over in a hurry ("fun" with MF-IT) - but that's another story ;-) If you are interested in details, see https://status.opensuse.org/incidents/232 and the ticket mentioned there. In theory you can also use another openID provider of your choice to login on paste.o.o, but I never tried that. Regards, Christian Boltz [1] The domain name might change to prevent a name clash with a possible future indonesian wiki - but that's just a technical detail. --
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08.06.2020 00:14, Christian Boltz пишет:
Thank you! Of course, searching for either "SUSE openID" or "openSUSE openID" returns nothing useful. Is it intentionally kept secret? May be it is not intended for public use at all ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 08/06/2020 à 07:34, Andrei Borzenkov a écrit :
AFAIK, openID is a way to have an universal login/password, certified by some other company, nothing related to openSUSE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID any web site can have this as an option for login this looks a bit like "France connect" a similar french system for administrative purpose https://franceconnect.gouv.fr/ some time ago, openid seamed to be popular, but looks to fail to be as common as wanted jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:20 AM jdd@dodin.org <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
This is exactly backwards. openID is a framework that allows authentication by some other company; this company is "openID provider" then and you need to know how to refer to this provider. If openSUSE intends to allow using its user database via openID framework, it needs to document how to refer to openSUSE provider. So far this mail is the first public explanation I could find. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-06-07 14:02, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
Where is o.o in susepaste.org?
Probably a mistake but I think it's this one that is referred to although it's not said. http://paste.opensuse.org -- /bengan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/06/2020 16.17, Bengt Gördén wrote:
I think that one is just a name pointing to the other. ;; ANSWER SECTION: paste.opensuse.org. 1745 IN CNAME susepaste.org. susepaste.org. 545 IN A 178.238.45.121 If you use whois, you will see the IP does not belong to openSUSE/SUSE. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
07.06.2020 09:01, David C. Rankin пишет:
Neither one. This site was never integrated with SUSE accounts and I have never needed to log in in the first place. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/07/2020 02:44 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
There, I'm not sure... I have it as opensuse-community.org (was this the old wiki build thing? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/07/2020 08:28 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Oh...Nevermind -- that site was from July 2008, so that would have been right as the SuSE/openSUSE transition occurred with the release of 11.0. That's probably a account I can drop from keepassx. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2020-06-07 at 10:57 +0200, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Still, that leaves the question: which login is that? Maybe with login there are more features, like deleting a paste, or allowing bigger sizes or longer times. Sometimes the paste is rejected because something says it is spam: maybe with login this is more lenient. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHkEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXty/IRwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVo3cAkwXip/kMpzPqsWVt/Qp7 SaL98RIAnR6F0RzcizZx8jnKrpOAMrkp65Md =EUG+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2020-06-07 at 12:39 +0200, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Send an email to admin@o.o instead of merely guessing and making assumptions you have no ground for.
Why? It is not under o.o control Why do you seem angry at my assumptions/guesses/queries? It is a free country, I can have my opinion and guesses, and I can express them here so that if any one knows, they can comment. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXtzFPBwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVbMsAnAvlm8k0wbdTzrpSffyA HlbVj18gAJ9Eh7gsb7FrO0eL4r46EJjmtmeT+g== =bxSS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:45:15 CEST schreef Carlos E. R.:
Huh? A *.opensuse.org subdomain not under opensuse control ?
That's your perception that I'm angry. Fact is I'm not. I just think that a support platform is not about opinions, guesses. And it's been said hundreds of times that creating a ticket by sending an email to admin@opensuse.org is the way to deal with things that you think are wrong. -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
07.06.2020 14:53, Knurpht-openSUSE пишет:
Where is o.o in susepaste.org?
Nobody said anything about "wrong". As there is no documentation on this web page what account is needed, but it offers Login button, all is left to us is guessing. And asking others is pretty normal. Do you intend to misuse admin@o.o as replacement for proper documentation? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Sonntag, 7. Juni 2020, 14:13:34 CEST schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:
paste.opensuse.org is aliased (CNAME) to susepaste.org - and it is indeed managed by a now-external contributor (former SUSE employee) on his own server/VM.
I'm sorry to say that, but your mail indeed sounded a bit angry or at least annoyed ("[...] instead of merely guessing and making assumptions you have no ground for"). Maybe re-reading this part helps to understand why Carlos thought you might be angry. But good to know that it was not meant this way.
... and he's right with that (at least it was that way when I needed/ tested it last time) - by logging in, you can paste things that the spam detection would otherwise block (for example something that includes 10 links). And to answer the initial question: It's an openID login. If you want to use your openSUSE account, you can enter https://www.opensuse.org/openid in the login field on paste.o.o/susepaste.org. This will redirect you to a login page (id.opensuse.org [1]) where you can login with your openSUSE (bugzilla/wiki/OBS/...) login. You'll then see you which of your account data will be relayed to paste.opensuse.org. Allow that, and you are logged in. Note: The login page doesn't look openSUSE'ish yet because we had to switch over in a hurry ("fun" with MF-IT) - but that's another story ;-) If you are interested in details, see https://status.opensuse.org/incidents/232 and the ticket mentioned there. In theory you can also use another openID provider of your choice to login on paste.o.o, but I never tried that. Regards, Christian Boltz [1] The domain name might change to prevent a name clash with a possible future indonesian wiki - but that's just a technical detail. --
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
08.06.2020 00:14, Christian Boltz пишет:
Thank you! Of course, searching for either "SUSE openID" or "openSUSE openID" returns nothing useful. Is it intentionally kept secret? May be it is not intended for public use at all ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 08/06/2020 à 07:34, Andrei Borzenkov a écrit :
AFAIK, openID is a way to have an universal login/password, certified by some other company, nothing related to openSUSE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID any web site can have this as an option for login this looks a bit like "France connect" a similar french system for administrative purpose https://franceconnect.gouv.fr/ some time ago, openid seamed to be popular, but looks to fail to be as common as wanted jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:20 AM jdd@dodin.org <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
This is exactly backwards. openID is a framework that allows authentication by some other company; this company is "openID provider" then and you need to know how to refer to this provider. If openSUSE intends to allow using its user database via openID framework, it needs to document how to refer to openSUSE provider. So far this mail is the first public explanation I could find. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-06-07 14:02, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
Where is o.o in susepaste.org?
Probably a mistake but I think it's this one that is referred to although it's not said. http://paste.opensuse.org -- /bengan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/06/2020 16.17, Bengt Gördén wrote:
I think that one is just a name pointing to the other. ;; ANSWER SECTION: paste.opensuse.org. 1745 IN CNAME susepaste.org. susepaste.org. 545 IN A 178.238.45.121 If you use whois, you will see the IP does not belong to openSUSE/SUSE. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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David C. Rankin -
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Knurpht-openSUSE -
Per Jessen