SuSE 9.2 Update package contents...
I was going to order the SuSE 9.2 package (DVDs+CDs) and was referred to several online sites that sold them at a discounted rate from the full retail price via "Digital River". They appear to be the same package when there is a picture, but sometimes it says std upgrade (CD). I called one merchant to verify that it was the full upgrade product and they said it was not the full product, if I wanted the update, I only got 1 CD with the updated products on it. !?!? This was suppposedly after contacting their Novell distributor. Now I know there are sites that offer unofficial CD/DVD duplicates for cheap and know those aren't the official update products, but this distributor got their upgrade product from Novell and claimed it was a CD only. Have things gotten more complicated and Novell is offering subsets of the official upgrade package, or was this online reseller (one recommended on the SuSE/Novell site) misinformed? Where is the best place to order the full upgrade package these days? Do I still have to "bother" or can I wait until 9.3 (which is probably due any time now) -- or will it only upgrade the 1 package before it? At least Microsoft does that aspect right, with new OS upgrades, coming out years apart will still upgrade older OS versions rather than only the one just before it. Pie-in-the-sky -- it'd be great if the main distro's would agree on package names so packages could be inter-installed between distro's....but that would be just too much like 'right' for consumers...;-) -linda
As far as I know
or will it only upgrade the 1 package before it?
No, it should do upgrades from the days of pre-9. whether it goes fine or not is another question, as im sure ive seen many problems with 9.2 upgrades. Stephen
Stephen Furlong wrote:
As far as I know
or will it only upgrade the 1 package before it?
No, it should do upgrades from the days of pre-9. whether it goes fine or not is another question, as im sure ive seen many problems with 9.2 upgrades.
--- This is news to me -- when I installed 9.1, I had purchased 9.0 but never got around to installing it on my "server" (in house, but a server to Windows clients and the firewall/proxy for those clients). I upgraded from 8.2, I believe (whatever was the version prior to 9.0), but 9.1 said it couldn't find (hardly**) any packages to upgrade. I could "choose" to install a completely new installation over my old disk (formatted or not, but recommended against not formatting the old disk first). **hardly -- it upgraded about 4-5 packages but nothing significant -- like no new "base" no new kernel, gcc or libs...etc. It's been a while since I did this, but somehow the upgrade deleted the unknown package names from the RPM database. I was left to manually installing packages with --nodeps or --force and manually deleting old files that weren't associated with any packages (cd to a dir, type rpm -qf *, delete files that didn't belong to a package that also were not any "hand-added" files). Needless to say, the upgrade was a _*nightmare*_!!! I wondered "what the heck", then read the fine print on the update insert -- that they 9.1 update would only update the immediately preceeding version. So, while I could have restored my rpm database from backups and gone through the motions of first installing the 9.0 update package, then installing the 9.1 update, I thought that would be equally painful. It was a good thing I had the 9.0 disks around, since the 9.1 CD's/DVD's couldn't directly upgrade my systems as they used XFS and the stock 9.1 kernel included in the updater had a "last minute change" that was snuck into the release process that had XFS file mounting broken. So in some ways, it was good that I did my upgrade manually, or I might have been left with a dead gateway system -- the one that allows me to send email in & out and gives HTTP access for downloading the needed patch. That's still a bug in the upgrade process -- if you need to download a patch to complete your install and you are behind a firewall. But back to the update process -- did it change with 9.2? Since 9.1 specifically stated it would only update the version immediately prior to the current version -- which makes the upgrade process a real pain -- either upgrade each and every time an upgrade comes out, or go through the equivalent of a new install as new packagenames apparently change significantly between releases... :-(
Linda Walsh wrote:
I was going to order the SuSE 9.2 package (DVDs+CDs) and was referred to several online sites that sold them at a discounted rate from the full retail price via "Digital River".
They appear to be the same package when there is a picture, but sometimes it says std upgrade (CD). I called one merchant to verify that it was the full upgrade product and they said it was not the full product, if I wanted the update, I only got 1 CD with the updated products on it. !?!? This was suppposedly after contacting their Novell distributor.
Now I know there are sites that offer unofficial CD/DVD duplicates for cheap and know those aren't the official update products, but this distributor got their upgrade product from Novell and claimed it was a CD only.
Have things gotten more complicated and Novell is offering subsets of the official upgrade package, or was this online reseller (one recommended on the SuSE/Novell site) misinformed?
The upgrade, as sold by SuSE, is exactly the same as the full package, except you get one book, instead of two. However, there are some vendors, selling copies of the disks, who have their own definitions. I'd be suspicious of that guy claiming the upgrade was only one CD.
James, On Thursday 03 March 2005 19:18, James Knott wrote:
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The upgrade, as sold by SuSE, is exactly the same as the full package, except you get one book, instead of two. However, there are some vendors, selling copies of the disks, who have their own definitions. I'd be suspicious of that guy claiming the upgrade was only one CD.
Then you haven't been reading news:comp.compression... RRS
Randall R Schulz wrote:
James,
On Thursday 03 March 2005 19:18, James Knott wrote:
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The upgrade, as sold by SuSE, is exactly the same as the full package, except you get one book, instead of two. However, there are some vendors, selling copies of the disks, who have their own definitions. I'd be suspicious of that guy claiming the upgrade was only one CD.
Then you haven't been reading news:comp.compression...
No I haven't. What'd they say?
James, On Thursday 03 March 2005 19:46, James Knott wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
James,
On Thursday 03 March 2005 19:18, James Knott wrote:
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The upgrade, as sold by SuSE, is exactly the same as the full package, except you get one book, instead of two. However, there are some vendors, selling copies of the disks, who have their own definitions. I'd be suspicious of that guy claiming the upgrade was only one CD.
Then you haven't been reading news:comp.compression...
No I haven't. What'd they say?
It's a home to nut-cases who perpetually contend to have discovered breakthrough compression that allows things like DVDs to be compressed to the point they'll fit on floppies and similar balderdash. RRS
On Friday 04 Mar 2005 03:57, Randall R Schulz wrote:
It's a home to nut-cases who perpetually contend to have discovered breakthrough compression that allows things like DVDs to be compressed to the point they'll fit on floppies and similar balderdash.
I want one of those! Where do I send my Bank of Toytown money? -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - Meddalwedd Rhydd yn Gymraeg www.cymrux.org.uk - Linux Cymraeg ar un CD!
Randall R Schulz wrote:
No I haven't. What'd they say?
It's a home to nut-cases who perpetually contend to have discovered breakthrough compression that allows things like DVDs to be compressed to the point they'll fit on floppies and similar balderdash.
I suppose they also believe in miracle carburators etc.
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