[opensuse] question on tunderbird/seamonkey mail imap offline mirroring
Hello: My IMAP mailbox at my ISP is close to full. I would like to delete most of its content form the IMAP server but keep messages locally. I use seamonkey mail (almost equal to thunderbird if I know correctly) with configured IMAP mailboxes. There is an option for download/synchronize messages for offline use which makes a local copy of the messages. My question is if I use this method, and delete messages on the server afterwards not from seamonkey mail (eg in webmail), will be the local messages deleted after a new connection started from seamonkey mail? In other words is the synchronization bi-directional or uni-directional? If bi-directional, what would be the most effective way to clear the server while keeping local messages with possibly maintaining the original directory tree? Tanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
My IMAP mailbox at my ISP is close to full. I would like to delete most of its content form the IMAP server but keep messages locally.
I use seamonkey mail (almost equal to thunderbird if I know correctly) with configured IMAP mailboxes. There is an option for download/synchronize messages for offline use which makes a local copy of the messages. My question is if I use this method, and delete messages on the server afterwards not from seamonkey mail (eg in webmail), will be the local messages deleted after a new connection started from seamonkey mail? In other words is the synchronization bi-directional or uni-directional?
I am not familiar with seamonkey, but any IMAP client should allow you to copy messages to your local drive with simple drag-and-drop. Maybe with the exception of webmail clients. With TB, I just move folders or messages into folders under "Local Folders". -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.7°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 29-1-2016 om 18:37 schreef Per Jessen:
Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
My IMAP mailbox at my ISP is close to full. I would like to delete most of its content form the IMAP server but keep messages locally.
I use seamonkey mail (almost equal to thunderbird if I know correctly) with configured IMAP mailboxes. There is an option for download/synchronize messages for offline use which makes a local copy of the messages. My question is if I use this method, and delete messages on the server afterwards not from seamonkey mail (eg in webmail), will be the local messages deleted after a new connection started from seamonkey mail? In other words is the synchronization bi-directional or uni-directional? I am not familiar with seamonkey, but any IMAP client should allow you to copy messages to your local drive with simple drag-and-drop. Maybe with the exception of webmail clients.
With TB, I just move folders or messages into folders under "Local Folders".
I have wondered about this a long time as well. I have to do the reverse: obtain an old TB store, make sure I don't connect to the internet, move the messages into local storage, delete it from the IMAP (that is not connected), ensure nothing remains, and then sync the IMAP again with online. Sounds rather unreasonable. Or I need to take these local folders, export them, there is a plugin for that: then go to my "main" TB, and then import that thing again into a local store there, after which I am free to move (copy) it at my behest to the online store. I have never really liked it. There are too many uncertainties for me. I haven't done it yet. Thunderbird also once threw away 3 months of email as I was compacting the store. I didn't notice and I threw away and older backup. Then my email was simply gone as TB had also already wiped it from the online store. Yay Thunderbird. I don't like it as much anymore as I did before. There was a reason I never compacted the store before because I suspected something like this could happen. But I grew careless (or uncareful) due to having that certain sense of a backup (using ImapSize on Windows). Regardless, IMAPSize stored email in .eml format (individual files) and that was a prime reason (perhaps the only reason) I was so careless, since it was rather unsettling to me and it confused me in a certain way. Due to other circumstances I had no other backup left (such as from a system restore point). And the email provider didn't keep backups long enough. The backup that existed had already been overwritten again. Caused me so much pain.... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
mails are only text files, so backing a .thunderbird folder is not that difficult, one can read with less... jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen
Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
My IMAP mailbox at my ISP is close to full. I would like to delete most of its content form the IMAP server but keep messages locally.
I use seamonkey mail (almost equal to thunderbird if I know correctly) with configured IMAP mailboxes. There is an option for download/synchronize messages for offline use which makes a local copy of the messages. My question is if I use this method, and delete messages on the server afterwards not from seamonkey mail (eg in webmail), will be the local messages deleted after a new connection started from seamonkey mail? In other words is the synchronization bi-directional or uni-directional?
I am not familiar with seamonkey, but any IMAP client should allow you to copy messages to your local drive with simple drag-and-drop. Maybe with the exception of webmail clients.
With TB, I just move folders or messages into folders under "Local Folders".
Per, thank. My IMAP folder hierarchy looks like this: mailbox name ----INBOX ----------Drafts ----------Sent ----------Archives ----------Trash ----------my imap folder 1 ----------my imap folder 2 ----------------subfolder of imap folder 2 ----------my imap folder 3 etc. I made a subfolder in the folder called "Local Folders" and tried to drag INBOX folder from my IMAP folder into it. It resulted an empty inbox folder in Local Folders. No messages or any subfolders were copied. How can I copy the whole IMAP folder tree into Local Folders in seamonkey mail? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-01-31 21:53, Istvan Gabor wrote:
I made a subfolder in the folder called "Local Folders" and tried to drag INBOX folder from my IMAP folder into it. It resulted an empty inbox folder in Local Folders. No messages or any subfolders were copied. How can I copy the whole IMAP folder tree into Local Folders in seamonkey mail?
No, you have to move the emails inside, not the folder itself. And a folder named "INBOX" is special. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Thank you all for your help. For clarity what I need is not a backup. I do backups of the IMAP server using imapsync. What I need here is an exact copy of the currentIMAP folder hierarchy in seamonkey mail so that I could clear a server and synchronize with the server after that. As I wrote in my previous mail, copying the whole IMAP directory into Local Folders is not possible. I copied the IMAP folder directory into Local Foldes directory in a file manager while seamonkey was turned off. But after restarting seamonkey in Local Folders the IMAP directories were doubled and messed. For example the Trash dir contained many messages deleted from the original IMAP Trash. It seems that Local Folders are treated too specifically. "Carlos E. R." írta:
I made a subfolder in the folder called "Local Folders" and tried to drag INBOX folder from my IMAP folder into it. It resulted an empty inbox folder in Local Folders. No messages or any subfolders were copied. How can I copy the whole IMAP folder tree into Local Folders in seamonkey mail?
No, you have to move the emails inside, not the folder itself. And a folder named "INBOX" is special.
You mean I have to select the thousands of mails one by one to copy them into local folder? The number of IMAP folders and subfolders are close to 100. I wouldn't like so select even those one by one. Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-01-31 23:47, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Thank you all for your help.
For clarity what I need is not a backup. I do backups of the IMAP server using imapsync. What I need here is an exact copy of the currentIMAP folder hierarchy in seamonkey mail so that I could clear a server and synchronize with the server after that. As I wrote in my previous mail, copying the whole IMAP directory into Local Folders is not possible. I copied the IMAP folder directory into Local Foldes directory in a file manager while seamonkey was turned off. But after restarting seamonkey in Local Folders the IMAP directories were doubled and messed. For example the Trash dir contained many messages deleted from the original IMAP Trash. It seems that Local Folders are treated too specifically.
My recommendation is to create the folder structure by hand under "Local Folders", then mass copy or move the messages by marking all (ctrl-A) when displaying the folder under inbox, them right click to move or copy to the destination folder. Repeat for each folder. This is what works best when using Thunderbird. If you want to copy folders as directories and files, you also have to create certain index files with "touch", ie, empty, in order for Thunderbird to see them properly. I'm assuming that Seamonkey still works the same as Thunderbird. In the past it did. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Le 31/01/2016 23:47, Istvan Gabor a écrit :
currentIMAP folder hierarchy in seamonkey mail so that I could clear a server and synchronize with the server after that.
why should you need this?? when I move a server, I simply copy the mail folder.
doubled and messed. For example the Trash dir contained many messages deleted from the original IMAP Trash. It seems that Local Folders are treated too specifically.
I don't know how deleted mails are managed on imap, may be you have to "compact" folders, because when I open roundcube, I see the mails deleted in thunderbird in the inbox, greyed out, not only in the trashcan - visibly "moving" is, in fact, copying then deleting and roundcube still displays mails deleted by thunderbird (not the ones it delete itself) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Le 31/01/2016 23:47, Istvan Gabor a écrit :
currentIMAP folder hierarchy in seamonkey mail so that I could clear a server and synchronize with the server after that.
why should you need this?? when I move a server, I simply copy the mail folder.
doubled and messed. For example the Trash dir contained many messages deleted from the original IMAP Trash. It seems that Local Folders are treated too specifically.
I don't know how deleted mails are managed on imap, may be you have to "compact" folders, because when I open roundcube, I see the mails deleted in thunderbird in the inbox, greyed out, not only in the trashcan - visibly "moving" is, in fact, copying then deleting and roundcube still displays mails deleted by thunderbird (not the ones it delete itself)
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Deleting_messages_in_IMAP_accounts -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 01/02/2016 10:44, Per Jessen a écrit :
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Deleting_messages_in_IMAP_accounts
ok, done, thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-01-31 21:53, Istvan Gabor wrote:
I made a subfolder in the folder called "Local Folders" and tried to drag INBOX folder from my IMAP folder into it. It resulted an empty inbox folder in Local Folders. No messages or any subfolders were copied. How can I copy the whole IMAP folder tree into Local Folders in seamonkey mail?
No, you have to move the emails inside, not the folder itself. And a folder named "INBOX" is special.
You can copy a folder itself, also INBOX. My TB is a bit backlevel, but here's what I just did: pick a subfolder of INBOX, in this case "amazon" with 15 messages, drag it into "Local Folders". It was copied over, I can post a screenshot. Then I tried the same with Inbox from another account, also worked fine but took a little longer (more messages). /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.2°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-02-01 08:42, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
No, you have to move the emails inside, not the folder itself. And a folder named "INBOX" is special.
You can copy a folder itself, also INBOX.
My TB is a bit backlevel, but here's what I just did:
pick a subfolder of INBOX, in this case "amazon" with 15 messages, drag it into "Local Folders". It was copied over, I can post a screenshot. Then I tried the same with Inbox from another account, also worked fine but took a little longer (more messages).
Must have changed. When I tried long ago it failed. Could it depend on server features? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 01/29/2016 12:10 PM, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
My IMAP mailbox at my ISP is close to full. I would like to delete most of its content form the IMAP server but keep messages locally.
I use seamonkey mail (almost equal to thunderbird if I know correctly) with configured IMAP mailboxes. There is an option for download/synchronize messages for offline use which makes a local copy of the messages. My question is if I use this method, and delete messages on the server afterwards not from seamonkey mail (eg in webmail), will be the local messages deleted after a new connection started from seamonkey mail? In other words is the synchronization bi-directional or uni-directional?
If bi-directional, what would be the most effective way to clear the server while keeping local messages with possibly maintaining the original directory tree?
Personally I think you're making a big issue of something simple. While my ISP offers the option of taking a tar.gz snapshot of the mailbox, you're might not. Have you even asked? I use thunderbird. I have a set of local folders as well as all my IMAP accounts. I can create new folders there. I also have a local dovecot server and local hierarchy in which I archive. Thunderbird is very configurable. I can set the location of the archives to be a local folder, and the archive format to be by year. I can then simply click to select the messages I want archived and use the 'archive' menu option. And "oh what a coincidence!" that location is in the tree that dovecot serves! If I wanted to I could also drag-and-drop from the remote inbox (or a subfolder) to a folder elsewhere, on another server, on the dovecot tree, or to a local folder. You may think that running a local dovecot is too complex. We;ll, I was storing are the files as you are asking about and thought "how can I access these?". Using the same interface I can now access them. I really LIKE Thunderbird. So, how equal, how configurable is seamonkey? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 29/01/2016 18:43, Anton Aylward a écrit :
and the archive format to be by year. I can then simply click to select the messages I want archived and use the 'archive' menu option.
reading thid I went to thunderbird setup, and notice I already ticked this option. However, my archives are never sorted by year. do you need to add the year folder manually? (I also have archives in local folder - but there you have to make sure you do a backup) thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/29/2016 02:20 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 29/01/2016 18:43, Anton Aylward a écrit :
and the archive format to be by year. I can then simply click to select the messages I want archived and use the 'archive' menu option.
reading thid I went to thunderbird setup, and notice I already ticked this option.
However, my archives are never sorted by year.
do you need to add the year folder manually?
There is a button on the edit-> account settings-> [accountname]->message and folders-> account archives labelled "Archive Options". There you can set 'by year' or 'by year and month' I've never had to set up the folders, thunderbird seems to do this. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/29/2016 02:20 PM, jdd wrote:
However, my archives are never sorted by year.
do you need to add the year folder manually?
(I also have archives in local folder - but there you have to make sure you do a backup)
IIRC, the folder is created automagically. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 29/01/2016 23:50, James Knott a écrit :
On 01/29/2016 02:20 PM, jdd wrote:
However, my archives are never sorted by year.
do you need to add the year folder manually?
(I also have archives in local folder - but there you have to make sure you do a backup)
IIRC, the folder is created automagically.
what I wanted to say is that after that you mails are only there, in local .thunderbird, and it's a hidden folder, easy to forget in backups jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/30/2016 02:54 AM, jdd wrote:
what I wanted to say is that after that you mails are only there, in local .thunderbird, and it's a hidden folder, easy to forget in backups
When I do backups, it's usually my entire home directory, which includes hidden directories. Of course, you can always make a visible symlink to it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/29/2016 12:43 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
You may think that running a local dovecot is too complex. We;ll, I was storing are the files as you are asking about and thought "how can I access these?". Using the same interface I can now access them. I really LIKE Thunderbird.
I run my own Dovecot server and just use POP to download the email to it. My ISP uses Yahoo! for the email server. While Yahoo! supports IMAP, they don't support nested folders. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 29/01/2016 23:48, James Knott a écrit :
IMAP, they don't support nested folders.
oh.. may be this is why my annual folders do not show (I keep such archives in imap folders). not a real problem, it's very easy to sort by date and move/copy only a particular year imap folders are specially tricky. I have an old unused imap folder that I can't delete, it come back :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/30/2016 02:58 AM, jdd wrote:
imap folders are specially tricky.
IMAP folders are not themselves tricky. It is the IMAP servers that are - sometimes - the problem. Dovecot conforms with the standards and has never presented me any problems in that regard. I'm not saying that you couldn't configure dovecot to be a pain in the neck in many aspects, and I'm sure some people have and do, but I took the 'bear of very little brain' approach and RTFM'd and made sure it was the for the version I was running, and avoided complications like using LDAP or MySQL in some mis-placed idea about 'efficiency'. It works, it works well and FOLDERS ARE NOT A PROBLEM! If you have problems with folders, then its not the IMAP standard, its that the server doesn't conform to the IMAP standard or has been misconfiguration. Perhaps you need to find another ISP. Like James I use Rogers as my ISP, and they punt things over to Yahoo for mail. I have an account there and don't bother with folders. I have the Rogers cable service because that's what's here in my condo. The other provider, if I had a stand-alone house on a nearby street, would be Bell fibre. Scylla and Charybdis. For proper IMAP service I use Dreamhost. My personal domain is based there. They do IMPA properly. I have no problems with folders there either. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 30/01/2016 10:56, Anton Aylward a écrit :
On 01/30/2016 02:58 AM, jdd wrote:
imap folders are specially tricky.
IMAP folders are not themselves tricky. It is the IMAP servers that are - sometimes - the problem.
I have the problem with both my own dovecot server (openSUSE 13.1) and my ISP one
If you have problems with folders, then its not the IMAP standard, its
no idea what are/is the problem, and it's not big enough to take the necessary time to debug... jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/30/2016 05:35 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 30/01/2016 10:56, Anton Aylward a écrit :
On 01/30/2016 02:58 AM, jdd wrote:
imap folders are specially tricky.
IMAP folders are not themselves tricky. It is the IMAP servers that are - sometimes - the problem.
I have the problem with both my own dovecot server (openSUSE 13.1) and my ISP one
If you have problems with folders, then its not the IMAP standard, its
no idea what are/is the problem, and it's not big enough to take the necessary time to debug...
I would think that a problem with folders and subfolders would be "big enough". certainly more so than some of the issues raised here! "tricky" is a bit of a vague description of a problem. Perhaps you could elucidate. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 30/01/2016 14:05, Anton Aylward a écrit :
I would think that a problem with folders and subfolders would be "big enough". certainly more so than some of the issues raised here!
"tricky" is a bit of a vague description of a problem. Perhaps you could elucidate.
one folder (old "suse" one) keep coming in thunderbird even after I deleted it. However it is not visible with roundcube on the same account. just looking at the folder properties, I noticed that "keep offline" was ticked, may be it's the problem even if it's empty. I deleted it, will see if it comes again :-) thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/31/2016 02:15 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 30/01/2016 14:05, Anton Aylward a écrit :
I would think that a problem with folders and subfolders would be "big enough". certainly more so than some of the issues raised here!
"tricky" is a bit of a vague description of a problem. Perhaps you could elucidate.
one folder (old "suse" one) keep coming in thunderbird even after I deleted it. However it is not visible with roundcube on the same account.
just looking at the folder properties, I noticed that "keep offline" was ticked, may be it's the problem even if it's empty. I deleted it, will see if it comes again :-)
There's also the issue of "subscriptions". You may also want to take it out of that list. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-02-01 10:41, jdd wrote:
Le 31/01/2016 20:20, Anton Aylward a écrit :
There's also the issue of "subscriptions". You may also want to take it out of that list.
it's not in
There is a text file in the directory that dovecot uses as the root of the mail storage named ".subscriptions", which holds the list of subscribed folders. Sometimes I edit that file, after stopping dovecot, to remove subscriptions that Thunderbird can't. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 2016-01-31 20:15, jdd wrote:
Le 30/01/2016 14:05, Anton Aylward a écrit :
I would think that a problem with folders and subfolders would be "big enough". certainly more so than some of the issues raised here!
"tricky" is a bit of a vague description of a problem. Perhaps you could elucidate.
one folder (old "suse" one) keep coming in thunderbird even after I deleted it. However it is not visible with roundcube on the same account.
Those are "phantoms" that only thunderbird sees. You have to manually delete them in some thunderbird configuration file, or delete the account, then add it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Le 31/01/2016 23:17, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
Those are "phantoms" that only thunderbird sees. You have to manually delete them in some thunderbird configuration file, or delete the account, then add it.
seems so. May be one day :-) thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 31/01/2016 20:15, jdd a écrit :
just looking at the folder properties, I noticed that "keep offline" was ticked, may be it's the problem even if it's empty. I deleted it, will see if it comes again :-)
yes, it's here again... in thunderbird, not in roudcube. No idea how to debug this jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-01-30 10:56, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 01/30/2016 02:58 AM, jdd wrote:
imap folders are specially tricky.
IMAP folders are not themselves tricky. It is the IMAP servers that are - sometimes - the problem. Dovecot conforms with the standards and has never presented me any problems in that regard.
Sometimes I try to rename a folder (via Alpine or Thunderbird) and dovecot refuses. I don't remember the error message. Then I simply point Pine to the raw Mail directory and rename it there. Dovecot sees it, the old one disappears, the new one appears. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 01/29/2016 12:10 PM, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
My IMAP mailbox at my ISP is close to full. I would like to delete most of its content form the IMAP server but keep messages locally.
I use seamonkey mail (almost equal to thunderbird if I know correctly) with configured IMAP mailboxes. There is an option for download/synchronize messages for offline use which makes a local copy of the messages. My question is if I use this method, and delete messages on the server afterwards not from seamonkey mail (eg in webmail), will be the local messages deleted after a new connection started from seamonkey mail? In other words is the synchronization bi-directional or uni-directional?
If bi-directional, what would be the most effective way to clear the server while keeping local messages with possibly maintaining the original directory tree?
My understanding is that the off line download does not free up space on the server. It just ensures a local copy is available when you're not connected to the Internet. However, there is an archive function where you can move messages from the server to local folders. You select the messages you want to archive, then right click and select "Archive". You can use the Advanced search to select messages prior to a given date to archive. There are also archive settings in the account settings under ""Copies & Folders". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-29 18:10, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
My IMAP mailbox at my ISP is close to full. I would like to delete most of its content form the IMAP server but keep messages locally.
I use seamonkey mail (almost equal to thunderbird if I know correctly) with configured IMAP mailboxes.
Very similar to Thunderbird, they share code I believe.
There is an option for download/synchronize messages for offline use which makes a local copy of the messages. My question is if I use this method, and delete messages on the server afterwards not from seamonkey mail (eg in webmail), will be the local messages deleted after a new connection started from seamonkey mail? In other words is the synchronization bi-directional or uni-directional?
They will be deleted.
If bi-directional, what would be the most effective way to clear the server while keeping local messages with possibly maintaining the original directory tree?
Just mark the emails and block copy or move to another folder, which can be a local folder (ie, files in your home directory) or in another imap server, local or remote. I use local, served by dovecot. There are many variants of the procedure. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlasJFQACgkQja8UbcUWM1wBQgEAjMEAVqGy80QOSqg/Hj/VV7Bj vFN+86i+AFZlG9kpGi4A/2qwa/Fj80wHSpilkN1QheRsLlC8dxJ3u85uGmosI899 =cNCP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Anton Aylward -
Carlos E. R. -
Istvan Gabor -
James Knott -
jdd -
Per Jessen -
Xen