Hello List, am I to blind, or is there just no Possibility to configure the Bootloader during Installation of OSS 10 RC1 ... ? Thanks Michael
Am Montag, 12. September 2005 18:32 schrieb Youssef CHAHIBI:
Hello List, am I to blind, or is there just no Possibility to configure the Bootloader during Installation of OSS 10 RC1 ... ?
Thanks Michael
Yes, you can, in the first dialog.
Good Evening Youssef I just had a look into the Installer, and found the "EXPERT" Tab with the Possibility to configure the Bootloader ... as far you´re right. But this is realy unusually to have such a basic thing in a hidden window tab. And for me, as i did a Update Installation, there was no extra "EXPERT" tab shown up. So the bootloader was automatically written into the mbr of hda, even grub was installed into the mbr of the root partition of the Installation i´m about to update ... Greatings Michael
But this is realy unusually to have such a basic thing in a hidden window tab. And for me, as i did a Update Installation, there was no extra "EXPERT" tab shown up. So the bootloader was automatically written into the mbr of hda, even grub was installed into the mbr of the root partition of the Installation i´m about to update ...
Greatings Michael You can still reconfigure GRUB from Yast. I don't know exactly the reason why you are about to update, but if it's because of GRUB you can change the settings from Yast or use a rescue system. Thanks.
Am Montag, 12. September 2005 19:43 schrieb Youssef CHAHIBI:
But this is realy unusually to have such a basic thing in a hidden window tab. And for me, as i did a Update Installation, there was no extra "EXPERT" tab shown up. So the bootloader was automatically written into the mbr of hda, even grub was installed into the mbr of the root partition of the Installation i´m about to update ...
Greatings Michael
You can still reconfigure GRUB from Yast. I don't know exactly the reason why you are about to update,
Why i want to update ? I wanted to update the Beta4 to RC1, and next i possibly want to update my SuSE 9.1 to SuSe 10 ... But this is not the Point, if you want to update you want control by your bootloader, that´s it. Michael
Michael Schueller schrieb:
Am Montag, 12. September 2005 19:43 schrieb Youssef CHAHIBI:
But this is realy unusually to have such a basic thing in a hidden window tab. And for me, as i did a Update Installation, there was no extra "EXPERT" tab shown up.
Do you realy think that changing the bootloader configuration is basic task ? To be honest, I'm changing the GRUB configuration after installation as well, but I don't do it during the installation itself. IMHO that is an EXPERT task. Therefore it is right under the EXPERT tab. 10.0rc1 at this time is for experts but will be released to the public soon (less than 4 weeks from now ...) and then hidding EXPERT taks under the EXPERT tab seems to be vital. Otherwise non-EXPERTS might be confused by too many options ... [...]
Why i want to update ? I wanted to update the Beta4 to RC1, and next i possibly want to update my SuSE 9.1 to SuSe 10 ... But this is not the Point, if you want to update you want control by your bootloader, that´s it.
Again, you might want to do that, but I expect you not to be a non-EXPERT. Do you realy think a beginner wants to change a working configuration ? Best regards, Reinhard.
Am Montag, 12. September 2005 20:49 schrieb Reinhard Gimbel:
Michael Schueller schrieb:
Am Montag, 12. September 2005 19:43 schrieb Youssef CHAHIBI:
But this is realy unusually to have such a basic thing in a hidden window tab. And for me, as i did a Update Installation, there was no extra "EXPERT" tab shown up.
Do you realy think that changing the bootloader configuration is basic task ?
To be honest, I'm changing the GRUB configuration after installation as well, but I don't do it during the installation itself.
IMHO that is an EXPERT task. Therefore it is right under the EXPERT tab.
10.0rc1 at this time is for experts but will be released to the public soon (less than 4 weeks from now ...) and then hidding EXPERT taks under the EXPERT tab seems to be vital. Otherwise non-EXPERTS might be confused by too many options ...
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Why i want to update ? I wanted to update the Beta4 to RC1, and next i possibly want to update my SuSE 9.1 to SuSe 10 ... But this is not the Point, if you want to update you want control by your bootloader, that´s it.
Again, you might want to do that, but I expect you not to be a non-EXPERT. Do you realy think a beginner wants to change a working configuration ?
Well, probably you are right. The easyest way is, to install the bootloader into the mbr of the hda and integrate an existing Windows Installation. For those how make there first Installation this might be o.k But if you have another Linux Installation and you want to keep the bootloader as it is, someone should tell you about the Expert Tab. I have just overlooked this Tab, and thought i would be asked later, but i was´nt. This was happen at the first time i installed Beta4 as a New Installation. And so i did not wonder that there was no way to konfigurer the bootloader as i updated from Beta4 to RC1. So all in all, the Bootloader Configuration was a little bit tricky to me,because i expect the way it was before. But at least, OSS 10 works smother now then 9.3 ever did ... So thanks to all for a job well done ;-) Micha
Best regards, Reinhard.
But if you have another Linux Installation and you want to keep the bootloader as it is, someone should tell you about the Expert Tab. Why not add it is SUSE's Grub ? There is a page in opensuse.org describing it ( Installing another distribution ) in the HOWTO category
Am 12.09.2005 20:49 schrieb Reinhard Gimbel:
Michael Schueller schrieb:
Why i want to update ? I wanted to update the Beta4 to RC1, and next i possibly want to update my SuSE 9.1 to SuSe 10 ... But this is not the Point, if you want to update you want control by your bootloader, that´s it.
Again, you might want to do that, but I expect you not to be a non-EXPERT. Do you realy think a beginner wants to change a working configuration ?
I think what he wants to say is that the EXPERT Tab is not existing when you choose "update" instead of "installation". OJ -- Zigarette ist ein Euphemismus für ein clever konzipiertes Produkt, das genau die Menge Nikotin abgibt, die nötig ist, um den Konsumenten sein Leben lang abhängig zu halten, bevor es ihn umbringt. (Dr. G. H. Brundtland, 1999)
related question... why can't yast detect what boot loader there is already. I upgraded a machine from suse9.2 to 9.3 and the /boot partition had been set up with lilo, but yast installer defaulted to grub. not a big thing for me to change during install, but it'd be neat if it could detect it.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:19:36AM +0100, Paul Mansfield wrote:
related question... why can't yast detect what boot loader there is already. I upgraded a machine from suse9.2 to 9.3 and the /boot partition had been set up with lilo, but yast installer defaulted to grub. not a big thing for me to change during install, but it'd be neat if it could detect it.
Indeed, especially during an upgrade changes in grub, lilo or whatevr bootloader should not be done. Some people use third party bbootloaders and don't want either grub or lilo. With a new instalation you can go to advanced and disable whatever you like. With an update, enableing grun should be off by default. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
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