[opensuse] bittorrent clients - azureus example
It's probably not OT to give some experience about dowload clients, as some have problems (ktorrent, aria2...) I use azureus, after trying several others with little luck. I find some advantages doing so. For exemple: * it's very easy to change the bandwith used by azureus. just change a number in a prompt (options page). So When I go away from my desktop I set it to 0 (infinite) and this gives instantly 750kbits/s upload, and when I come back I type "60" and this gives me ~500kbits/s and the use of internet :-) * I have the ~25Gb isos on a usb HDD. I want to install 10.2 on my Linux box. I stopped azureus on this box, unplugged the usb drive and plugged it on my second, windows XP, computer. I launch azureus on this one (as azureus is multiplatform), direct it to the same directory (ext3) as before and azureus is on the way of verifying the files, some are already seeding again. * I didn't use azureus on the XP box till 10.1, so it asked gently if I wanted to update, I said yes and I have now the brand new version. and none of my computer are new (the newer is two years old, and was a very low end one) so this a good client, among others, probably jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
It's probably not OT to give some experience about dowload clients, as some have problems (ktorrent, aria2...)
I use azureus, after trying several others with little luck.
I find some advantages doing so. For exemple:
* it's very easy to change the bandwith used by azureus. just change a number in a prompt (options page). So When I go away from my desktop I set it to 0 (infinite) and this gives instantly 750kbits/s upload, and when I come back I type "60" and this gives me ~500kbits/s and the use of internet :-)
* I have the ~25Gb isos on a usb HDD. I want to install 10.2 on my Linux box. I stopped azureus on this box, unplugged the usb drive and plugged it on my second, windows XP, computer. I launch azureus on this one (as azureus is multiplatform), direct it to the same directory (ext3) as before and azureus is on the way of verifying the files, some are already seeding again.
* I didn't use azureus on the XP box till 10.1, so it asked gently if I wanted to update, I said yes and I have now the brand new version.
and none of my computer are new (the newer is two years old, and was a very low end one)
so this a good client, among others, probably
jdd Which ports do You open for incoming and outgoing ?. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Erik Jakobsen a écrit :
Which ports do You open for incoming and outgoing ?.
not the same on the two computers (to don't have to change the firewall) azureus asks only for one port, both tcp and udp. I use now 4661, but any port can do jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Erik Jakobsen a écrit :
Which ports do You open for incoming and outgoing ?.
not the same on the two computers (to don't have to change the firewall)
azureus asks only for one port, both tcp and udp. I use now 4661, but any port can do
jdd
Hi, i've read that some ISPs across the world do reduce traffic or otherwise do reduce operability of computers using some P2P "classical" ports, at the connection level. (say, 4661, 4662 TCP and 4672 UDP for eMule) So, P2P traffic is reduced, their goal, and can be great where these ISP have these policies and people don't change those ports. So a "workaround" might be, if having such an ISP, to use other port(s) that are not P2P "classical ones". For Azureus, that might be a random Azureus chosen port (above those 1024 reserved ports, if i'm right). If not, you can still try to chose a port between 1024-65535. I say all this for us not having ISPs spoiling down the hot 10.2 release, among other things :-) Just check if yours do that. HTH, cheers, PatrickM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Erik Jakobsen a écrit :
Which ports do You open for incoming and outgoing ?.
not the same on the two computers (to don't have to change the firewall)
azureus asks only for one port, both tcp and udp. I use now 4661, but any port can do
jdd
Thanks for the info jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 08 December 2006 08:44, jdd wrote:
It's probably not OT to give some experience about dowload clients, as some have problems (ktorrent, aria2...)
I use azureus, after trying several others with little luck.
I find some advantages doing so. For exemple:
* it's very easy to change the bandwith used by azureus. just change a number in a prompt (options page).
It's even easier than that! In the lower-right-hand corner of the Azureus window are two icons (upward- and downward-facing triangles) and two numbers (the upload and download limit, resp.). A right click on either of those numbers presents a menu of alternative limits. It is also possible to change these limits via the tray icon without even making the main window visible. A right click on the Azureus tray icon produces a menu with two sub-menus: "Max Up" and "Max Down" Azureus is a mature and sophisticated program with a zillion and a half options and information displays (my favorite is the "Swarm" display). It's surely far more than is needed just to share files, but if you like extra fancy software, it's the bee's knees. And as others have mentioned, it's not exactly light on resource requirements. Azureus is the only BitTorrent client I've used, but it appears that BitTorrent is a pretty complex protocol, and not entirely trivial to get right. I think Azureus pretty much does have it right. Others perhaps less so.
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so this a good client, among others, probably
jdd
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
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Azureus is a mature and sophisticated program with a zillion and a half options and information displays (my favorite is the "Swarm" display). It's surely far more than is needed just to share files, but if you like extra fancy software, it's the bee's knees.
I'm using Azureus on my desktop and ktorrent on my laptop. Azureus consistently gives my 350K+ downloads, with rarely a hitch. Often it goes to 500K+. Azureus on the laptop, when it's running XP, does the same. Ktorrent has yet to go above 50K. For the last hour, it's been in the 10K range -- obviously, it will take days to get the 10.2 dvd that way. I'm wondering -- can I stop ktorrent and start Azureus to finish it up? Running ktorrent for the past 36 hours has gotten 1.24G. I'm using ktorrent as it came under 10.1 with no modifications to configuration (just as I am with Azureus). Download speed is set to 0 (unlimited). Is there something I can do to fix ktorrent? Even if Azureus can't pick up ktorrent's chunks, it's probably worthwhile to download and start Azureus, I guess, unless someone can help fix ktorrent.
And as others have mentioned, it's not exactly light on resource requirements.
My desktop has 768M, my laptop has 2G of RAM. Both have 2G swap space. -- John Perry Embedded Electronics (757)813-6109 j.e.perry@cox.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 08 December 2006 16:38, John E. Perry wrote:
I'm using ktorrent as it came under 10.1 with no modifications to configuration
That's your problem. The early Ktorrent versions had "issues". Go to Ktorrent.org and download the source and build that. Keep it around (the source) for when you get 10.2 downloaded because the one SUSE put in there is deliberately crippled as well. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
John Andersen wrote:
On Friday 08 December 2006 16:38, John E. Perry wrote:
I'm using ktorrent as it came under 10.1 with no modifications to configuration
That's your problem. The early Ktorrent versions had "issues".
Go to Ktorrent.org and download the source and build that. Keep it around (the source) for when you get 10.2 downloaded because the one SUSE put in there is deliberately crippled as well.
Oh, well, then, I'll just use Azureus. Do you know offhand whether it will pick up where ktorrent is going to leave off? -- John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
John Andersen wrote:
On Friday 08 December 2006 16:38, John E. Perry wrote:
I'm using ktorrent as it came under 10.1 with no modifications to configuration
That's your problem. The early Ktorrent versions had "issues".
Go to Ktorrent.org and download the source and build that. Keep it around (the source) for when you get 10.2 downloaded because the one SUSE put in there is deliberately crippled as well.
Why's that? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 08 December 2006 18:36, James Knott wrote:
Go to Ktorrent.org and download the source and build that. Keep it around (the source) for when you get 10.2 downloaded because the one SUSE put in there is deliberately crippled as well.
Why's that?
Because Novell puts lawyers in charge of software packaging. Did you really mean to ask How it was crippled? DHT is disabled. There has never been a court finding that DHT violated any law. You might just as well disable TCP/IP, it is involved in far more illegal sharing than is the DHT. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
John Andersen wrote:
On Friday 08 December 2006 18:36, James Knott wrote:
Go to Ktorrent.org and download the source and build that. Keep it around (the source) for when you get 10.2 downloaded because the one SUSE put in there is deliberately crippled as well.
Why's that?
DHT is disabled.
I am using the one mentioned the other day on the list (2.1beta1) from the Build Service and DHT is working. It worked fine for me (though I only needed the RC1_GM delta, makes a big difference). So in fairness this one was available before 10.2 was officially available for download, and it does NOT appear to be crippled. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 09 December 2006 02:34, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
I am using the one mentioned the other day on the list (2.1beta1) from the Build Service and DHT is working. It worked fine for me (though I only needed the RC1_GM delta, makes a big difference). So in fairness this one was available before 10.2 was officially available for download, and it does NOT appear to be crippled.
SHhhhhhhhhh ! Someone will hear you. Complaint on this list a day or two ago was that it would turn off each time you exited and restarted. I can't verify that, because I compiled from source. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 09 December 2006 02:34, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
I am using the one mentioned the other day on the list (2.1beta1) from the Build Service and DHT is working. It worked fine for me (though I only needed the RC1_GM delta, makes a big difference). So in fairness this one was available before 10.2 was officially available for download, and it does NOT appear to be crippled.
SHhhhhhhhhh ! Someone will hear you.
Maybe that should have been PM. Since it is publicly available, it should be OK to tell the truth "openly".
Complaint on this list a day or two ago was that it would turn off each time you exited and restarted. I can't verify that, because I compiled from source. Not here anyway, it works quite well for a beta (but so did 10.2). ;-)
-- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-09 at 02:12 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
DHT is disabled.
What is DHT? The wikipedia has four entries: * , a type of distributed system that provides hash table-like functionality * Dihydrotestosterone, a hormone commonly implicated in male baldness, produced from testosterone * Discrete Hartley transform, a Fourier-related transform of discrete, periodic data similar to the discrete Fourier transform DHT may also refer to: * D.H.T., a Belgian group that covered the song "Listen to Your Heart" Which one, if any? :-? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFex1atTMYHG2NR9URAp4BAJ9l3XeTINyirSwAeYqFPGSm+e6ARQCfaSzg TgqGLI3ntHlJmHwO7qtXNmo= =Bud5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 09 December 2006 21:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2006-12-09 at 02:12 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
DHT is disabled.
What is DHT?
The wikipedia has four entries:
Five (at least)
* , a type of distributed system that provides hash table-like functionality
That's the one -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 09 December 2006 11:44, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 09 December 2006 21:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2006-12-09 at 02:12 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
DHT is disabled.
What is DHT?
The wikipedia has four entries:
Five (at least)
* , a type of distributed system that provides hash table-like functionality
That's the one
wikipedia addicts.... (sigh) In the present usage instance, DHT is used by torrent clients to find additional peers in addition to or in the absence of any peers supplied by trackers. It allows access to peers even when trackers are blocked or down as long as you can find one peer somewhere that runs DHT. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-09 at 12:55 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
wikipedia addicts.... (sigh)
What I had available :-)
In the present usage instance, DHT is used by torrent clients to find additional peers in addition to or in the absence of any peers supplied by trackers.
It allows access to peers even when trackers are blocked or down as long as you can find one peer somewhere that runs DHT.
Ah, ok, I understand. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFezg8tTMYHG2NR9URAmHcAKCAZAqQuvVwu/cEvc3+OilJcjKVowCfUQut yURKGYAQhbmjOqVgSS3hAFo= =ZvSf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 09 December 2006 13:55, John Andersen wrote:
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wikipedia addicts.... (sigh)
Please explain. Do you accept only authoritarian models for knowledge dispensation? If so, why should we consider you a useful source of information? Why, in fact, do you participate in this communitarian knowledge-sharing forum?
John Andersen
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You can, I downloaded some iso images from SuSE 9.3 by FTP, and finished the download with Azureus. Add the torrent to Azureus. Force ReCheck and voila! Continue the downloading ;) I suppose that the Force Recheck option assures the image is correct. Cheers, ;) Carlos A. PS: To bad that I have to wait for 3 days to finish the download of openSuSE 10.2 *sigh
From: "John E. Perry" <j.e.perry@cox.net> CC: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] bittorrent clients - azureus example Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:38:19 -0500
Randall R Schulz wrote:
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Azureus is a mature and sophisticated program with a zillion and a half options and information displays (my favorite is the "Swarm" display). It's surely far more than is needed just to share files, but if you like extra fancy software, it's the bee's knees.
I'm using Azureus on my desktop and ktorrent on my laptop. Azureus consistently gives my 350K+ downloads, with rarely a hitch. Often it goes to 500K+. Azureus on the laptop, when it's running XP, does the same.
Ktorrent has yet to go above 50K. For the last hour, it's been in the 10K range -- obviously, it will take days to get the 10.2 dvd that way.
I'm wondering -- can I stop ktorrent and start Azureus to finish it up? Running ktorrent for the past 36 hours has gotten 1.24G. I'm using ktorrent as it came under 10.1 with no modifications to configuration (just as I am with Azureus). Download speed is set to 0 (unlimited). Is there something I can do to fix ktorrent?
Even if Azureus can't pick up ktorrent's chunks, it's probably worthwhile to download and start Azureus, I guess, unless someone can help fix ktorrent.
And as others have mentioned, it's not exactly light on resource requirements.
My desktop has 768M, my laptop has 2G of RAM. Both have 2G swap space.
--
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2006, Ryouga Hibiki wrote:
You can, I downloaded some iso images from SuSE 9.3 by FTP, and finished the download with Azureus. Add the torrent to Azureus. Force ReCheck and voila! Continue the downloading ;)
I suppose that the Force Recheck option assures the image is correct.
Cheers, ;)
Carlos A.
PS: To bad that I have to wait for 3 days to finish the download of openSuSE 10.2 *sigh
Try Metalink http://en.opensuse.org/Metalink Use rsync to correct if you have md5sum issues. It is now covered on the link. -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-12-08 at 19:11 -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
On Sat, 9 Dec 2006, Ryouga Hibiki wrote:
You can, I downloaded some iso images from SuSE 9.3 by FTP, and finished the download with Azureus. Add the torrent to Azureus. Force ReCheck and voila! Continue the downloading ;)
I suppose that the Force Recheck option assures the image is correct.
Try Metalink http://en.opensuse.org/Metalink Use rsync to correct if you have md5sum issues. It is now covered on the link.
You can not use metalink to complete an already initiated torrent or ftp download - which is what the poster asked about. You have to start anew. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFeyVAtTMYHG2NR9URAi7GAJ9SFQ5ofaOXgH1bWmcUkf7lFolI9ACgiuUU 04m4viMPzytVfRnfdrMu1y0= =lpub -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
John E. Perry a écrit :
I'm wondering -- can I stop ktorrent and start Azureus to finish it up?
yes. but first do the following: *don't use the same directories for azureus and ktorrent (just in case...) *launch azureus *set in "options" the bittorrent and dowload directories in azureus * copy the partial files to the dowload directory of azureus and the bt one on the relevant place * open the bt files with azureus if you want/can seed all the files, you must have to change the default number of dl in the azureus options eventually right click on the bt file in azureus and clic on "forve verify" is this didn't already start ** I noticed that not all the bittorrent client use the same directory sheme jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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