As I recall, the current version of S.u.S.E. was out at the end of the first quarter. Isn't the usual practice of S.u.S.E. to have a new version every six months, which would make the next version due at the end of September. Right? Or ...? -- dj tuchler dtuchler@earthlink.net
Dennis J.Tuchler wrote: > As I recall, the current version of S.u.S.E. was out at the end of the first
quarter. Isn't the usual practice of S.u.S.E. to have a new version every six months, which would make the next version due at the end of September. Right? Or ...?
It's "SuSE", we removed the dots a long time ago, and a new version (8.1) is due in late September. Personally, I wouldn't like a new version any sooner, I'm fine with SL 8.0 plus YOU updates - let things settle a bit before stirring them up again, okay? Michael
On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 03:41, Dennis J.Tuchler wrote:
As I recall, the current version of S.u.S.E. was out at the end of the first quarter. Isn't the usual practice of S.u.S.E. to have a new version every six months, which would make the next version due at the end of September. Right? Or ...? -- dj tuchler dtuchler@earthlink.net
Hi DJ !! Stay cool ... So far, given the fact that SuSE 8.0 got the 2.4.18 kernel ... there hasn't even been a new kernel release since then:-) Well, i don't know of course, but even KDE 3.0 was already included in the stock 8.0 distro, so what should be in a new release AT ALL? You can update your KDE to 3.0.2 w/o problems via YOU. The only thing burning on MY nails is getting an rpm of hpoj-0.9 as soon as available and possible to finally get this darn OfficeJet V30 doing somewhat more than just faxing and color copying. It is supposed to print as well:-) [maybe even scan??] Cheers ... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@gmx.net
On Monday 29 July 2002 11:47 pm, wolfi wrote:
You can update your KDE to 3.0.2 w/o problems via YOU.
Not quite, as of last night you still cannot get 3.0.2 from YOU because of the Missing Handbooks bug. They're probably working on it right now, so it might be awhile. -- Bryce Hardy (Santa Rosa, CA) brycehdy@sonic.net
On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 16:03, Bryce Hardy wrote:
On Monday 29 July 2002 11:47 pm, wolfi wrote:
You can update your KDE to 3.0.2 w/o problems via YOU.
Not quite, as of last night you still cannot get 3.0.2 from YOU because of the Missing Handbooks bug. They're probably working on it right now, so it might be awhile.
Strange, on my last YOU run on Sunday there was a possibility to get KDE 3.0.2 as 'optional' or so, IIRC. Hm, ok, I got my KDE 3.0.2 by downloading the complete rpms one or two weeks ago, so I thought they were on YOU now. This definitely does work:-) Cheers ... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@gmx.net
I downloaded and instyalled them via YOU, but they seem to be no longer available. On Tuesday 30 July 2002 16:31, wolfi wrote:
On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 16:03, Bryce Hardy wrote:
On Monday 29 July 2002 11:47 pm, wolfi wrote:
You can update your KDE to 3.0.2 w/o problems via YOU.
Not quite, as of last night you still cannot get 3.0.2 from YOU because of the Missing Handbooks bug. They're probably working on it right now, so it might be awhile.
Strange, on my last YOU run on Sunday there was a possibility to get KDE 3.0.2 as 'optional' or so, IIRC. Hm, ok, I got my KDE 3.0.2 by downloading the complete rpms one or two weeks ago, so I thought they were on YOU now. This definitely does work:-)
Cheers ... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@gmx.net
-- Frits J. Wüthrich (Sent with Kmail)
wolfi <wolfi_z@gmx.net> writes:
Stay cool ... So far, given the fact that SuSE 8.0 got the 2.4.18 kernel ... there hasn't even been a new kernel release since then:-) Well, i don't know of course, but even KDE 3.0 was already included in the stock 8.0 distro, so what should be in a new release AT ALL?
It could be built with (and include) gcc 3.1 (or 3.1.1) rather than 2.95.3. It could have the latest sendmail and bind. Apache 2.x has now been released, so it could have 2.0.39 rather than 1.3.x. I am sure that there are many other packages which have newer versions than shipped with SuSE 8.0 or available via YOU.
Op dinsdag 30 juli 2002 23:19, schreef Graham Murray:
wolfi <wolfi_z@gmx.net> writes:
Stay cool ... So far, given the fact that SuSE 8.0 got the 2.4.18 kernel ... there hasn't even been a new kernel release since then:-) Well, i don't know of course, but even KDE 3.0 was already included in the stock 8.0 distro, so what should be in a new release AT ALL?
It could be built with (and include) gcc 3.1 (or 3.1.1) rather than 2.95.3. It could have the latest sendmail and bind. Apache 2.x has now been released, so it could have 2.0.39 rather than 1.3.x. I am sure that there are many other packages which have newer versions than shipped with SuSE 8.0 or available via YOU.
At rpm4 to it as well. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
It could be built with (and include) gcc 3.1 (or 3.1.1) rather than 2.95.3. It could have the latest sendmail and bind. Apache 2.x has now been released, so it could have 2.0.39 rather than 1.3.x. I am sure that there are many other packages which have newer versions than shipped with SuSE 8.0 or available via YOU.
At rpm4 to it as well.
i think that an upgrade to gcc3 and rpm4 would both require a bump in the major version (up to 9.0) because they would both break backward compatibility with 8.0. that's one of the reasons redhat is still using gcc '2.96' in 7.3, while the next version (currently 'limbo', but will be 8.0) will have gcc3.1. -- trey
Richard Bos <allabos@freeler.nl> [ Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:53:12 +0200]:
At rpm4 to it as well.
Nope, we'll stay with rpm3! rpm4 just has too many still unresolved bugs, specially on some of the platforms SuSE Linux supports ( something around 8 different hardware platforms). If and when those bugs get fixed and rpm4 runs on all the platforms we support as well as rpm3, we may switch to it, but not before. Philipp -- Philipp Thomas work: pthomas@suse.de Development SuSE Linux AG private: philippt@t-online.de
Philipp, thank you for the clear answer. Op vrijdag 2 augustus 2002 00:30, schreef Philipp Thomas:
Richard Bos <allabos@freeler.nl> [ Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:53:12 +0200]:
At rpm4 to it as well.
Nope, we'll stay with rpm3! rpm4 just has too many still unresolved bugs, specially on some of the platforms SuSE Linux supports ( something around 8 different hardware platforms).
Any idea when those will be fixed, is RH accepting patches working on the bugs? What are the problems?
If and when those bugs get fixed and rpm4 runs on all the platforms we support as well as rpm3, we may switch to it, but not before.
-- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
Richard Bos <allabos@freeler.nl> [ Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:21:46 +0200]:
Any idea when those will be fixed, is RH accepting patches working on the bugs?
I honestly don't know. This is the information our top developers give and up til now I didn't check further. Philipp -- Philipp Thomas work: pthomas@suse.de Development SuSE Linux AG private: philippt@t-online.de
FYI http://mozillaquest.com/Linux02/SuSE_8-1_LSB_UnitedLinux_Stroy-01.html -- Banthat Sengsavanh - Cegetel Reunion He only knew his iron spine held up the sky -- he didn't realize his brain had fallen to the ground. -- The Book of Serenity
http://mozillaquest.com/Linux02/SuSE_8-1_LSB_UnitedLinux_Stroy-01.html
The "when's the next version out?" question is moot. Timings, 6 month gaps, 4 month gaps, etc. establish patterns, but eventually don't matter. It'll be ready when they're ready to ship it. There was interesting quote in that article though: "Will it be possible to run applications that are certified on UnitedLinux on a coming SuSE Linux Professional/Personal [distribution]: Yes." Since UnitedLinux is based on SuSE Linux, and SuSE's technical guys are doing all the integration work for UnitedLinux, it really does look like United Linux is just SuSE Linux by another name. He says UnitedLinux is for servers, yet SuSE's Professional and Personal distros will run all UnitedLinux applications. That seems to say that UnitedLinux is actually a subset of SuSE Linux. It feels like a good time to know SuSE Linux - it seems I already have a lot of experience with UnitedLinux! -- 12:48pm up 14 days, 3:25, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.12, 0.09
Graham Murray <graham@gmurray.org.uk> [30 Jul 2002 22:19:04 +0100]:
It could be built with (and include) gcc 3.1 (or 3.1.1) rather than 2.95.3.
Yes, it'll be a gcc3 based distribution. With the many different hardware platforms SuSE supports, including x86-64 (Hammer/Opteron), PPC (32/64 Bit) and IBM Z-Series (S/390), there wasn't much choice, given that we wanted to use only one version of gcc and not three or more versions.
I am sure that there are many other packages which have newer versions than shipped with SuSE 8.0 or available via YOU.
Given that our policy is to restrict updates to bugfixes and security fixes and to avoid version updates by all means, it's only natural to expect the next SuSE Linux version to ship with newer packagers. Philipp -- Philipp Thomas work: pthomas@suse.de Development SuSE Linux AG private: philippt@t-online.de
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