[opensuse] Re: opensuse testing
Stephen Shaw a écrit :
I think he is referring to the fact that openSUSE 10.2 was released a few years back. I imagine that there is interest in the upcoming openSUSE 11.2 though.
oh, yes! of course 10.2 is a typo and I'm interested by 11.2 :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eic8MSSfM http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1412160445 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Stephen Shaw a écrit :
I think he is referring to the fact that openSUSE 10.2 was released a few years back. I imagine that there is interest in the upcoming openSUSE 11.2 though.
oh, yes!
of course 10.2 is a typo and I'm interested by 11.2 :-)
jdd
We're already testing by downloading the alpha, beta and RC versions and reporting bugs in bugzilla. At least I ( and others ) try and help in this manner. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 27 February 2009, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
jdd pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Stephen Shaw a écrit :
I think he is referring to the fact that openSUSE 10.2 was released a few years back. I imagine that there is interest in the upcoming openSUSE 11.2 though.
oh, yes!
of course 10.2 is a typo and I'm interested by 11.2 :-)
jdd
We're already testing by downloading the alpha, beta and RC versions and reporting bugs in bugzilla. At least I ( and others ) try and help in this manner.
-- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998
has the stupid pppd problem been fixed do you know in 11.2 a clean 11.1 install is next to useless for ppp connections ie Huawei E220 type broadband mobile modems upgrade for 10.3 to 11.0 to 11.1 all works fine clean 11.1 no hope Pete also SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 Linux almost from the beggining -- Opensuse 10.3 x86_64 (Linux is like a wigwam no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider - openSUSE a écrit :
We're already testing by downloading the alpha, beta and RC versions and reporting bugs in bugzilla. At least I ( and others ) try and help in this manner.
Yes, of course, I do also, but the problems with 11.1 shows we are not enough. The test system is also not good enough. Bugs have not only to be reported but to be fixed :-) And to fix them, devs have to find what happen. This is much easier in fixed environment, at first. Right now, it's impossible to install 11.2 with mini cd in virtualbox. I was said 'we know the isos are broken'. Is not this a very first job to do? How can we make our testing base greater if the elementary steps can't be done? The worst install case is the no install at all. Hardware incorrectly detected. This should be adressed *first*, before any other testing begin., and as much as possible on mastered environment. VirtualBox is the very first easier install environment and should be adressed first, because nearly anybody can test it without broking his system, and because nearly any demo can be done in virtualbox. Updating again and again from factory is, I think, of little interest because nobody ever do so in real world and it akes a very special system. It's good later when the base system works. Once at least the virtual linux are running, anybody can test a complete install, still in virtualized environment. personnally, I could even run most of my work in this virtualbox (having a full stable install at hand to the other part) to test the distro on real day to day work. and then, of course we could start testing installs on real hardware, this task tested with minimal software (the install cd, with no apps) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eic8MSSfM http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1412160445 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Ken Schneider - openSUSE a écrit :
We're already testing by downloading the alpha, beta and RC versions and reporting bugs in bugzilla. At least I ( and others ) try and help in this manner.
Yes, of course, I do also, but the problems with 11.1 shows we are not enough.
This because 11.1 was rushed out the door to meet Christmas sales, in my opinion.
The test system is also not good enough. Bugs have not only to be reported but to be fixed :-)
And to fix them, devs have to find what happen. This is much easier in fixed environment, at first.
Right now, it's impossible to install 11.2 with mini cd in virtualbox. I was said 'we know the isos are broken'. Is not this a very first job to do? How can we make our testing base greater if the elementary steps can't be done?
Has 11.2 been released yet in any version? As far as I know only factory is available which will become 11.2 at some point. Until an official 11.2 media has been released my testing is on hold.
The worst install case is the no install at all. Hardware incorrectly detected.
This should be adressed *first*, before any other testing begin., and as much as possible on mastered environment. VirtualBox is the very first easier install environment and should be adressed first, because nearly anybody can test it without broking his system, and because nearly any demo can be done in virtualbox.
And you are addressing it by testing it and reporting the bugs, no.
Updating again and again from factory is, I think, of little interest because nobody ever do so in real world and it takes a very special system. It's good later when the base system works.
Once at least the virtual linux are running, anybody can test a complete install, still in virtualized environment. personnally, I could even run most of my work in this virtualbox (having a full stable install at hand to the other part) to test the distro on real day to day work.
I never test new pre-release versions on production systems only in VM's or hardware not in day to day use. Any one should know better as anything can and will break at any time.
and then, of course we could start testing installs on real hardware, this task tested with minimal software (the install cd, with no apps)
jdd
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Has 11.2 been released yet in any version? As far as I know only factory is available which will become 11.2 at some point. Until an official 11.2 media has been released my testing is on hold.
The request is to test factory. Testing a released version is too late. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmpNiIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X+EwCeOupDHlwII2yBFrerYMBafFJa XLQAn0BAgJG3Ooc1ePk+ARMYTPlixYQf =8bY1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Friday, 2009-02-27 at 18:58 -0500, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Has 11.2 been released yet in any version? As far as I know only factory is available which will become 11.2 at some point. Until an official 11.2 media has been released my testing is on hold.
The request is to test factory.
Testing a released version is too late.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
OK, to be a little more specific - until iso's are released for testing 11.2 my testing is on hold. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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