I noticed there are no updates for 10.1,can you update to the 10.2RC as they come out and how? Jim
jim tate wrote:
I noticed there are no updates for 10.1,can you update to the 10.2RC as they come out and how?
Jim
Hi Jim, There are updates for 10.1, and quite a few. ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/update/10.1/rpm Though it is necessary to download and install files in: (next 2 lines is actually 1) ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/people/aj/ 10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i386/ I installed using quick and dirty method. Changed to directory where files were downloaded and run: rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps ./* This method is not for everyday use as it can break the system even to a non bootable state, but in this case really filled with dependencies are only files with -devel in the name. If you skip download of -devel and -debug it will save you time and you can later add them trough YaST that will be in usable state instantly after installation. HTH -- Regards, Rajko.
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There are updates for 10.1, and quite a few. ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/update/10.1/rpm
Though it is necessary to download and install files in: (next 2 lines is actually 1) ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/people/aj/ 10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i386/
I installed using quick and dirty method. Changed to directory where files were downloaded and run: rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps ./*
I think you want rpm -Fvh *rpm This is what I used. I think it only update what you need. I try to avoid the --force. Good Luck, - -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iD8DBQFEe8pjVtBjDid73eYRAsyvAJ4hE05JY8/eQmqNofaej5GHktxzcgCeKL21 QB79zdAS/2LZbZW+IiyNF24= =vtcK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
There are updates for 10.1, and quite a few. ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/update/10.1/rpm
Though it is necessary to download and install files in: (next 2 lines is actually 1) ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/people/aj/ 10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i386/
I installed using quick and dirty method. Changed to directory where files were downloaded and run: rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps ./*
I think you want
rpm -Fvh *rpm
This is what I used. I think it only update what you need. I try to avoid the --force.
Good Luck,
Hi Boyd, I agree your method is better. YaST spoiled me, and present problems found me off guard. I used the same as it was published in one of mails on suse-linux-e mailing list, and it worked. When YaST was up it was easy to remove development from the list and get dependencies OK. -- Regards, Rajko.
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 1:31 am, Rajko M wrote: [snip]
rpm -Fvh *rpm
This is what I used. I think it only update what you need. I try to avoid the --force.
Good Luck,
Hi Boyd,
I agree your method is better. YaST spoiled me, and present problems found me off guard.
I used the same as it was published in one of mails on suse-linux-e mailing list, and it worked. When YaST was up it was easy to remove development from the list and get dependencies OK.
Iupgraded all the files at the site you listed, but Yast STILL won't update....lists the files, but that's it. IF running Zen and it's demon, (performance hit for that :( ), then the Software Updater will work. It is, however, very slow in getting a list of files. Fred -- Paid purchaser of ALL SuSE Linux releases since 6.x
Well, let me put it this way: I don't know who is/was in charge with 10.1 release but if he/she was a politician I would request his/her resignation. 10.1 is the biggest blow for the name of SUSE. It's an actual crime... I stop here... Metricus. On Tuesday 30 May 2006 12:26, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 1:31 am, Rajko M wrote:
[snip]
rpm -Fvh *rpm
This is what I used. I think it only update what you need. I try to avoid the --force.
Good Luck,
Hi Boyd,
I agree your method is better. YaST spoiled me, and present problems found me off guard.
I used the same as it was published in one of mails on suse-linux-e mailing list, and it worked. When YaST was up it was easy to remove development from the list and get dependencies OK.
Iupgraded all the files at the site you listed, but Yast STILL won't update....lists the files, but that's it. IF running Zen and it's demon, (performance hit for that :( ), then the Software Updater will work. It is, however, very slow in getting a list of files.
Fred
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 2:02 pm, MetricUS wrote:
Well, let me put it this way: I don't know who is/was in charge with 10.1 release but if he/she was a politician I would request his/her resignation.
10.1 is the biggest blow for the name of SUSE. It's an actual crime...
I stop here.
I does have more bugs than any release before it, IMHO. Fred -- Paid purchaser of ALL SuSE Linux releases since 6.x
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 02:24:07PM -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
I does have more bugs than any release before it, IMHO.
People are working hard to solve it. Moaning now is useless. The people at SUSE know that there are issues. They are working on a solution and will see that it won't happen again. -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier...
It's not "moaning" it is called customer complaint! I am an actual user of SUSE linux for purposes that do not include spending time with your computer. I manage banking, documents, media files, etc for my business and home management. Releasing a version is a serious thing that should be treated a such! One does not release versions just to have something to fix! I cannot afford to loose data and I most certainly do not consider appropriate that SUSE 9.3 (which I still use as it is the most stable and functional SUSE yet) can be a better version than 10.1 and 10.0 put together. It seems to me that whoever decided to release this version was only concerned about respecting the release date and not the customers. 50% (and climbing) of Yast functions are useless! or extremely buggy. Software management is a joke. There is actually an icon there that produces only a blank window. Everytime I try to setup something using Yast I find another thing that does not work. Scanner is dead although worked fine in 9.3, fax never worked, sound system disintegrates although fine in 9.3, partitions fail. Is there anything else you reserve us? I can only work in mouse-clicks, no command line, no compilations, therefore, I guess SUSE is out for me, right? Can you at least recommend me a distro that actually works? Metricus. On Tuesday 30 May 2006 13:40, houghi wrote:
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 02:24:07PM -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote: Moaning now is useless.
If 9.3 is the only SUSE release that works that all those "people at SUSE" should go home! regards Metricus On Tuesday 30 May 2006 14:17, Andreas Hanke wrote:
Hi,
MetricUS schrieb:
Can you at least recommend me a distro that actually works?
You already mentioned one yourself in your very own post...
Andreas Hanke
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On Tuesday 30 May 2006 20:54, MetricUS wrote:
If 9.3 is the only SUSE release that works that all those "people at SUSE" should go home!
These sorts of comments, and indeed this thread, are getting quite tiresome. There is a problem with the updater, probably due to the decision to change to libzypp being made too late in the beta program, SUSE knows about it and are working on fixing it, end of story. There's no need to be abusive to people at SUSE. If you prefer 9.3, go back to it. If you have lost faith in SUSE because of a problem with one package out of several hundred, then move to another distro. Whinging about the same thing in multiple posts must raise the suspicion that the posters are only here as trolls to slag off a very fine distro. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - KDE yn Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.rhedadur.org.uk - Rhedeg berfau Cymraeg www.cymrux.org.uk - Linux Cymraeg ar un CD
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 02:12:22PM -0500, MetricUS wrote:
It's not "moaning" it is called customer complaint!
Please do not toppost. If you say it once it is a complaint. If you say it over and over and over and over again, it is moaning. There is an issue. The issue is delt with. Saying it again and again is as usefull as pressing the elevator button several times extra. <snip moaning> -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier...
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 2:40 pm, houghi wrote:
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 02:24:07PM -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
I does have more bugs than any release before it, IMHO.
People are working hard to solve it. Moaning now is useless. The people at SUSE know that there are issues. They are working on a solution and will see that it won't happen again.
Certainly hope not! After have some clients buy 10.1 and some VERY bad issues during upgrades, I'm holding off updating any more systems till a much more stable release is available. Fred -- Paid purchaser of ALL SuSE Linux releases since 6.x
"Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com> writes:
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 2:40 pm, houghi wrote:
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 02:24:07PM -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
I does have more bugs than any release before it, IMHO.
People are working hard to solve it. Moaning now is useless. The people at SUSE know that there are issues. They are working on a solution and will see that it won't happen again.
Certainly hope not! After have some clients buy 10.1 and some VERY bad issues during upgrades, I'm holding off updating any more systems till a much more stable release is available.
We do have some bugs in the update stack in the running system. But updating from on older release to 10.1 should work. Did you file bugreports for these so that we can fix it for the future? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 3:21 am, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
We do have some bugs in the update stack in the running system. But updating from on older release to 10.1 should work. Did you file bugreports for these so that we can fix it for the future?
Yep....so noted. Updating a 10.0 system isn't the problem - getting updates AFTER the install is the problem or installing an RPM with Yast! There still is hardware that I can't install SUSE on because of a lack of drivers, or lack of 3D support for some older hardware. But, I didn't expect that to change in the 10.1 release. I DO EXPECT driver problems to be fixed by the end of the year. That IS a reasonable expectation given what SUSE has said about addressing these problems. Fred -- Paid purchaser of ALL SuSE Linux releases since 6.x
At 04:01 PM 31/05/2006, you wrote:
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 2:40 pm, houghi wrote:
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 02:24:07PM -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
I does have more bugs than any release before it, IMHO.
People are working hard to solve it. Moaning now is useless. The people at SUSE know that there are issues. They are working on a solution and will see that it won't happen again.
Certainly hope not! After have some clients buy 10.1 and some VERY bad issues during upgrades, I'm holding off updating any more systems till a much more stable release is available.
Fred
And having 86 copies on "order warning" for various businesses and people I support, my wholesaler was less than impressed when I rang and told her to cancel the rest of the order (four received) because of the "level or problems unresolved" or "requiring excessive installation fix time" with the released package. No doubt Novell Australia would have heard about it too as others I talk with over here have similarly cancelled. I have informed my clients that 9.3 is, and will remain my current stable supported release at this time! There has been some unrest over here for a couple of years already with "preliminary discussions" between the various "linux user groups" for a totally Australian build and release and the organization necessary to support it. If 10.2 is released in a similar "problem level" as 10.1 Novell SuSE will die over here very quickly. Users over here do not differentiate between openSuSE and Novell SuSE and will not consider them separate, they just consider the first the pre-release system of the latter. This is not a flame, but a statement of total frustration of the increasing level of rework again needed, and as one who has a very small margin and growing smaller as my clients margins are also shrinking. Maybe what we need is a new lock on 10.1 and all problems fixed and a new release as 10.1A before any work is allowed to proceed with 10.2. scsijon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 07:44:58PM +1000, scsijon wrote:
Users over here do not differentiate between openSuSE and Novell SuSE and will not consider them separate, they just consider the first the pre-release system of the latter.
Considering that one is a distribution and the other a group of peopl, I find it normal to see them in a different way. -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
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At 08:29 PM 1/06/2006, you wrote:
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 07:44:58PM +1000, scsijon wrote:
Users over here do not differentiate between openSuSE and Novell SuSE and will not consider them separate, they just consider the first the pre-release system of the latter.
Considering that one is a distribution and the other a group of peopl, I find it normal to see them in a different way. -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
I wish it was so, but unfortunately, that's not how it works over here with other lines and so they see this on the same linepath. scsijon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org
Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 1:31 am, Rajko M wrote:
[snip]
rpm -Fvh *rpm
This is what I used. I think it only update what you need. I try to avoid the --force.
Good Luck, Hi Boyd,
I agree your method is better. YaST spoiled me, and present problems found me off guard.
I used the same as it was published in one of mails on suse-linux-e mailing list, and it worked. When YaST was up it was easy to remove development from the list and get dependencies OK.
Iupgraded all the files at the site you listed, but Yast STILL won't update....lists the files, but that's it. IF running Zen and it's demon, (performance hit for that :( ), then the Software Updater will work. It is, however, very slow in getting a list of files.
Hi Fred, It is as you say, but list is downloaded in background and when you see exclamation mark it is ready, so I really don't care that it takes time. Updater is now in usable state, able to get patches. -- Regards, Rajko.
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 7:56 pm, Rajko M wrote:
Hi Fred,
It is as you say, but list is downloaded in background and when you see exclamation mark it is ready, so I really don't care that it takes time. Updater is now in usable state, able to get patches.
I just checked, and the Updater icon notified me that there are updates......waiting for it......ok...there's 1 file. I did get some others last night. Yast update still won't work. Fred -- Paid purchaser of ALL SuSE Linux releases since 6.x
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 7:56 pm, Rajko M wrote:
Hi Fred,
It is as you say, but list is downloaded in background and when you see exclamation mark it is ready, so I really don't care that it takes time. Updater is now in usable state, able to get patches.
Oh boy........there's 1 patch available......but there's a permissions problem. :( NOT good boys and girls! The update is a bugfix for dhcp client_hostname_option, and the error is: 23|A84EDAE89C800ACA|SuSE Package Signing Key <build@suse.de>| 79C179B2E1C820C1890F9994A84EDAE89C800ACA Bye, Fred -- Paid purchaser of ALL SuSE Linux releases since 6.x
"Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com> writes:
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 7:56 pm, Rajko M wrote:
Hi Fred,
It is as you say, but list is downloaded in background and when you see exclamation mark it is ready, so I really don't care that it takes time. Updater is now in usable state, able to get patches.
Oh boy........there's 1 patch available......but there's a permissions problem. :( NOT good boys and girls!
The update is a bugfix for dhcp client_hostname_option, and the error is: 23|A84EDAE89C800ACA|SuSE Package Signing Key <build@suse.de>| 79C179B2E1C820C1890F9994A84EDAE89C800ACA
What kind of error is this? Is this the complete patch? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 11:22 am, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Oh boy........there's 1 patch available......but there's a permissions problem. :( NOT good boys and girls!
The update is a bugfix for dhcp client_hostname_option, and the error is: 23|A84EDAE89C800ACA|SuSE Package Signing Key <build@suse.de>| 79C179B2E1C820C1890F9994A84EDAE89C800ACA
What kind of error is this? Is this the complete patch?
How would I know? The info. I posted is the total info. for that update attempt. Fred -- Paid purchaser of ALL SuSE Linux releases since 6.x
"Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com> writes:
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 11:22 am, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Oh boy........there's 1 patch available......but there's a permissions problem. :( NOT good boys and girls!
The update is a bugfix for dhcp client_hostname_option, and the error is: 23|A84EDAE89C800ACA|SuSE Package Signing Key <build@suse.de>| 79C179B2E1C820C1890F9994A84EDAE89C800ACA
What kind of error is this? Is this the complete patch?
How would I know? The info. I posted is the total info. for that update attempt.
We now have a proper bugreport for this: #180460 Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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